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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Week 5 - Low Carb Bootcamp - The cheating stops here

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StuntNun · 02/06/2014 06:33

Hello again and it's time for weigh in. The cheating seems to have edged up a bit in the last week so I want to remind everyone that cheating is a really bad idea and will hinder your weight loss. It's called Bootcamp for a reason. We only want ten weeks from you and the cheat foods will still be there at the end of Bootcamp. But for now no cheats please. Next time you're tempted remember it isn't the last scone/cake/wine in the world.

If you need a reminder or you're joining Bootcamp partway through, the rules are on the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness and you can also track your weight on the Weight Tracker.

As promised last week I've written some info on the science behind diets...

How do we lose weight?

First, why don't low fat restricted calorie diets work? It comes down to homeostasis: our bodies actively resist change. For some reason in humans our resistance to weight change appears to be asymmetric, that is we resist losing weight much more effectively than we resist gaining weight. Most of us have experienced first hand the gradual increase in weight over time, or the more abrupt but still unshiftable weight gain that happens with pregnancy. Basically it's easy to gain weight but difficult to lose weight. So we go on a reduced calorie diet, eating 1800 calories while our bodies are expending 2000 calories. We may lose some weight at first but eventually eating 1800 calories becomes the norm and our bodies resist the change by dropping the metabolic rate to match calorie output to input. But, and here's the problem, the metabolic rate might drop to reduce calorie expenditure by 300 calories rather than 200 in order to regain the lost weight and get back to our normal weight. So weight loss stops, we get disheartened and quit the diet and our reduced metabolic rate allows the weight to pile back on and then some, just in case we encounter this artificial famine again in the future.

So what's different about a low carb diet? One of the key rules of Bootcamp is to eat when you're hungry. This works to prevent the reduced metabolic rate that scuppers a reduced calorie diet. When you start eating a low carb diet and you have exhausted your glycogen stores, the liver starts converting fat from your diet into ketones. Your muscles start using ketones and then adapt to using fatty acids for energy. Your brain uses ketones and glucose from your diet along with glucose produced from protein by gluconeogenesis. The low levels of insulin induced by a low carb diet allow fatty acids to flow freely in and out of fat cells. It is this free flow of fatty acids from your fat cells that allows you to lose weight on a low carb diet without restricting calories. Your muscles cannot distinguish whether fatty acids came directly from your digestive system or from your fat cells, they just use them up as needed. As you adapt to the low carb diet, there is a reduction in your appetite in response to the ready availability of energy at all times. A low carb diet works simply by allowing your muscles and liver to freely use fatty acids released from your fat cells.

Good luck for the coming week. Keep on keeping on.

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RunLikeSomeFeckersChasing · 03/06/2014 18:41

Miffy I joined last week - think you can just jump in! Good day. Less hungry, more energy. Not sure I ate enough of anything today. May have to have a boiled egg with oodles of butter later Sad.

B - chicken and butter
L - tuna salad
D - chicken w stuffed courgettes

Weighed in this morning. 132lbs. My start weight is slightly uncertain as I have changed scales. It's at least 4 off (think these weigh a kg heavier so could be 6 but think as is started at 136 on the old scales). Chuffed with 4!

RoaringForties · 03/06/2014 18:58

I'm struggling cos I just don't feel hungry in the slightestShock Silly question does it matter now? I still have the mantra of 3 meals in my head but guess I'm adapted now as I have managed to stay on BC proper.
So is that ok, wibble.
B: very small amount of yogurt with cream
L: egg salad with oily dressing
D: just don't want food - oh I did have a babybel!
2L of water so far with more to go.

SarahBeenysBumblingApprentice · 03/06/2014 19:23

Roaring not hungry is good! It often happens when you are keto adapted- ketones seem to suppress appetite.

Fab loss run

Hello miffy - just wade in and get started, it's great! (After the first two weeks)

Now, can anyone help me with my stripy fat bombs? 110g unsalted butter, 110g coconut oil and 90g 90% chocolate melted together and they've set like this:

(Sorry about the broken lens)

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miffy49 · 03/06/2014 19:37

Thanks for the welcome. Are the fat bombs Bootcamp friendly? I've done them in the past using peanut butter and coconut oil with the high cocoa chocolate and they came out like Reeses Peanut Butter cups. Had to stop making them! Do yours taste OK? If so I wouldn't worry!

Do I need to add myself to a spread sheet somewhere?

antimatter · 03/06/2014 19:40

It looks like fats separated SarahBeenysBumblingApprentice

I found this note:

If your coconut oil is too hot they will separate sometimes. Heat your fats gently in the microwave, or placed over a bowl of hot water, or gently on the stovetop. I usually do 30 or 40% power for 30 sec at a time, heating until just melted.

lowcarbforthewin · 03/06/2014 19:41

No but yum. Can I have it?
Another day of upping my fat and going between 12pm and 7pm without food. Geez, you'd have thought this diet actually worked or something, and fat suppresses your appetite despite everyone here saying stuff to the contrary Wink I am so chuffed. Makes such a difference to my confidence and mental attitude.
I hsve had a pretty stressful day too, so even more proud I didn't cheat.

Parsnipcake · 03/06/2014 20:07

Had a stir fry for tea made with shiritaki noodles, but am concerned about lack of fat. Any tips for making it fattier? It was salmon and green veg, with soy sauce ( small amount), ginger, garlic and lime.

antimatter · 03/06/2014 20:10

Parsnipcake - before serving add some butter or other oil. I like taste of coconut oil, but some find it a bit sweet.

KinkyDorito · 03/06/2014 20:12

Help! How long does it take for the cravings to subside in the first week or so? Thought I was in ketosis, but my weight has stayed the same since day 2 (now on day 7) and I'm still craving quite a bit.

I've cut back cream today and eaten less cheese, but still feeling peckish.

I'm drinking lots of water too.

Today:

B - 3 scrambled eggs with butter
L - tuna in oil with spinach and olive oil to dress
D - quorn pieces, oil, courgette and aubergine, tbsp of pesto, sprinkle of grated cheese

S - about my own body-weight in bloody olives

Am now drinking unsweetened soy milk again as has hardly any carb content. On the tracker, carbs come in at 23, which isn't bad for me as a pescatarian doing the diet.

Tell me I will want to stop eating soon. I haven't cheated once.

Best1sWest · 03/06/2014 20:21

1lb, possibly 2 off (scales wavery) so very pleased. Clothes are beginning to feel looser.
Today I had
B crispy ham and halloumi fried in butter.
L Waitrose mozarella and tomato salad, Greek yoghurt
D ham, cheese and egg with some leaves.

2 coffees with cream and a little coconut cream.
2 .5 water, 2 to go.

A bit heavy on the cheese today. Will cut back on that tomorrow

I can't believe I've been doing this for a month. Still doing bootcamp rather than bootcamp lite though I did have a few strawberries on Sunday.

antimatter · 03/06/2014 20:26

KinkyDorito - what was in the pesto you've used?
also olives - did you check the label?

readyforno2 · 03/06/2014 20:31

2lb off.
At least I've lost but still a bit disheartened.
Today..
B- coffee with cream
L- omelette with ham and cheese, lettuce
D- chicken, courgettes, broccoli, shallots, asparagus and spinach stir fried in butter

Loads of water

SarahBeenysBumblingApprentice · 03/06/2014 20:33

Miffy they have about 3.6g of chocolate in each one so not OK for BC but ok for BCL (in moderation!). I think the nut ones are gorgeous too so I don't make them Blush.

Antimatter I think you got it there, thanks! I did them directly in the pan so I'll use a water bath next time.

lowcarb that particular one is in my tum Grin

kinky dorito the cravings went quite quickly for me but I think I was still needing to snack after 1w. Are you adding a little bit of fat i.e a teaspoon, to your cooking, or lots, like a few glugs? It can be quite hard to get used to.

SarahBeenysBumblingApprentice · 03/06/2014 20:37

Nearly forgot - today:

B: BPC
L: coleslaw, salami, avocado, tyrell's pork scratchings (mustard, lovely)
D: bolognaise, celeriac cubes in salt, pepper and smoked garlic powder, roasted in lots of oil, more colelsaw.
S: (dinner was v late) a pepperami and a fat bomb.

BIWI · 03/06/2014 20:38

readyforno2 why are you disheartened? 2lbs off at this stage is perfect. We're looking to lose 1-2lbs a week.

And just remember, 2lbs of fat is 4 packs of lard!

If you need more help, here is a picture of 1 pound of fat:

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KinkyDorito · 03/06/2014 20:42

antimatter pesto is 1g carb in the tbsp; olives are 3.6g in 100g. Even with the load I've eaten, I would still be low carb.

Sarah I think I add a fair bit. I cook with a chunk of butter and add a knob or two to my eggs; I use about 2tbsp of oil on my salad and about the same to cook. Should I use more? I've eaten nearly a whole block of butter this week.

Thanks both of you Smile

antimatter · 03/06/2014 20:42

and more Smile

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Week 5 - Low Carb Bootcamp - The cheating stops here
antimatter · 03/06/2014 20:43

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Week 5 - Low Carb Bootcamp - The cheating stops here
readyforno2 · 03/06/2014 21:00

I just feel I could have done a bit better, that's 2lb over two weeks. Had tonsillitis so didn't make any of the exercise classes I would have.

BIWI · 03/06/2014 21:01

2lbs in two weeks is still good - especially if you've been poorly.

Honestly - don't stress about it. That won't help!

SarahBeenysBumblingApprentice · 03/06/2014 21:18

Kinky dorito it sounds fine to me Smile, or at least, that's exactly what I do!

readyforno2 · 03/06/2014 21:18

Thanks. I'll try not to

lookingforhope · 03/06/2014 21:41

Hi all - back on strict bc this week and doing OK. Checked against MFP and my macros are pretty much where they should be - 65% fat, 25% protein, 10% carbs - is that about right? Lots of water. Have discovered licorice tea with peppermint, and ginger orange tea (both by Yogi or Pukka - from Holland and Barrett). If you think you don't like herb teas, please give these a go, they are lush. I even sniff the teabags Blush

Nice meals today. Finally getting over the idea that breakfast = bread or granola.

B - M&S mozzerella and tomato salad, crispy bacon strips and mayo
L - Antipasto of artichoke, olives and feta with rocket, spinach, watercress and mayo and a piece of poached salmon
D - Celery sticks with almond butter. Cherry tomatoes. Small amount of stilton

Snacks - ham dipped in mayo

Lots of water and herb tea

Yum!!!

Have gone a bit mayo-mad, no wonder my fat intake is up there! But it is hellmanns full fat so not many carbs

One question - where are you all getting your coconut oil and coconut cream from ?? I live near 3 very big supermarkets (Tesco, Sainsbury's and Morrissons) and none of them have it Sad

Welcome back BIWI - hope you had a good holiday. Stuntnun has been entertaining us with her science lessons!

Tomorrow's meal plan -

B - eggs and ham with mayo
L - as yesterday but with ham instead of salmon
D - ??? Might make a beef and vegetable soup, or fish baked with pesto and vegetables depending on time

Scousadelic · 03/06/2014 21:46

I've just started again in the last couple of days and am in that horrible phase where I know logically I am not really hungry but I could eat my own head!

I am still a bit out of sorts with this broken ankle, it is uncomfortable rather than painful but it's awkward using crutches and it is tempting to not use them but I am scared of damaging it. Half the problem is that I really don't know what I should be doing as they rushed me in and out of the clinic so fast. I feel as though I am wasting the days off and feel guilty that I am not at work as everyone keeps telling me I must look after myself but it is a bad time to have me off Hmm. Hopefully I will feel a bit more in control soon.

Anyway at least I have eaten better the last 2 days:
Sausage, bacon, buttery scrambled eggs and mushrooms for breakfast,
Meat and veg leftovers for lunch
IPD moussaka last night and pork chop with creamed leeks tonight

linesandlines · 03/06/2014 21:58

Kinky, the cravings could last a good couple of weeks, especially if carbs had a good, hard grip on you. Try chromium supplements, salty snacks, more fat and more water.

So, despite only losing 4cm off my waist so far, my trousers fell down today! runs round the thread, waggling bare arse