Week 10 - Low Carb Bootcamp - the last week!

[BIWI]

Well, finally, we reach the finish line! One more week to shout your shit.

Here's the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness

And the Weight Tracker

Hope the results are positive for you today - and that the rest of this week gives you time to drop another pound or two.

Execellent article Stunt. It says what I was trying to say in my last post at 12.3.. something.

That is really useful, thank you. I'm not sure I'm there with 'diet memory' (what exactly remembers and how?) but the rest is very solid and sensible. Have had a textbook day today. We'll see how the bank holiday goes, tomorrow's challenge is to resist hot cross buns at church and scones (etc) at the National Trust house we're off out to with my MIL. Being full, that's the key.

That's all really useful. As for dropping dress sizes, I have lost 7 inches from my waist in 6 weeks. I think I must have some gluten intolerance that caused me to bloat that has gone, my tummy feels so much thinner/ softer.

I really don't fancy anything Darby and I used to love afternoon tea and cake. I just hope I stay this motivated!

Fantastic name BecauseImWoeufIt took me a moment to realise who it was!

Toomuch I finally got on the scales this morning, after 3 really well-behaved LC days after holiday. Down 2lb since before the holiday! I can't pretend to understand what or why that is, but I'm not complaining.

Parsnip I'm sorry, there is an expensive aspect to this WOE and its having to buy new clothes! There just comes a point where you have to get in some new things to wear, and the bonus is that wearing things that aren't like sacks make you feel even better about your emerging new figure and keep you even more motivated.

And the point where you commit and chuck the old big clothes out to the charity shop because you aren't going to be that big again, are you...

I think I've had two points where I've gone and bought 3 new pairs of trousers in the new size, and a few tops. Not masses but enough for there to be something that's not in the wash, around to wear!

I've found having to buy bras in new sizes an expensive aspect of this too. But it just had to be done because going round in a baggy bra is dreadful!

Yes, it's me, hiding in my Easter clothes! This is a very old name - it made more sense when I used to use my full name - BecauseImWorthIt - rather than BIWI

The other thing about buying new clothes is that you start to dress differently, I found. I had been buying clothes to cover up, and when I lost the weight I found I could now buy clothes to flatter.

It was a lovely feeling.

Whoosh sorry to hear about your poor DD. Hope she makes a speedy recovery. I'd be pretty pissed off with the childminder, tbh. Does she know DD well? Thank you for loving me enough to read my fishy stuff!

Thumb I haven't dared step on the scales in ages either.

Regarding the one shot diet discussion... The dramatic losses only happened for me on my first bootcamp. I'd tried low carbing before and lost dramatically (a lb or more a day) but felt so ill and exhausted that I stopped after a couple of weeks and the weight went straight back on. Spring/summer bootcamp last year I stuck with it and lost 24lbs which didn't go straight back on. Last bootcamp I hardly lost a thing though and certainly didn't have the big dramatic loss at the start. The article Stunt linked to makes a lot of sense.

I'm being an absolute carby twat at the moment. I just can't do moderation in anything. I tried introducing lower GI carbs and then I just can't stop at a few - before I know it I'm eating toast for lunch and pasta for dinner. This week I even made scones.

Trashy we did the crate by the bed with CrabbyCocker the first night too, as DP had said that he didn't mind getting a dog but that he absolutely would not have a dog in the bed. So into the crate she went at bedtime (we'd introduced her to it, with lots of treats, earlier). She cried, and cried some more. She whined, with an increasingly outraged tone. The whining turned to plaintive howling. The howling became growling, which escalated to very cross barking, by which time it was 1am. But then, her masterstroke... there was a minute or two of blissful silence - just long enough to think 'ah, she's finally gone to sleep'... and then the smell hit us. Not only had she crapped liquid poo all over the crate, she had then trodden it all up and in between the bars with her little fluffy paws. So 1.30am on a freezing December night saw DP out in the garden hosing down the crate, while I thoroughly shampooed the shit-covered puppy in the shower. Once she was clean, wet, shaking like a leaf and crying piteously, there was only one place she was going to spend the rest of the night really, wasn't there. She hasn't spent a night out of our bed since then.

Sayra how are your WCMM fry?? I loved the picture of your tank, btw.

Fishy Update
Well it's sad news. Yesterday, to cap off a shitty shitefest of a week (wrote the car off on Wednesday with DD in the car), I put Poorly Platy to sleep. He seemed to be getting better for a couple of days and we saw him take a couple of bits of food and take an interest in the other fish. He then deteriorated again and some white spots developed on his tail where the fin rot was (tail was still looking very tatty). He was spending all his time on the bottom of the tank and ignoring all food even if it floated right past his good eye/mouth. He's at least 3 or 4 years old, and googling told me that it's unusual for platies to live that long. Considering he's so old, in really poor condition and starting to look emaciated, I decided that he's very unlikely to make a full recovery and the kindest thing to do was put him out of his misery. I got some clove oil, said to be the most humane way of doing it because the eugenol is an anaesthetic. It put him to sleep almost instantly then I increased the dose. Once he hadn't breathed for 20mins I put him in the freezer in the clove water to make sure.

The WCMMs seem ok, although they tend to stay in the cover of the plants most of the time now, maybe because there aren't enough of them to feel secure? The male isn't that interested in food, although he does eat, preferring to chase the two females around all the time. I'm pretty sure they spawned because the females were really swollen when they first arrived (I was worried it was bloat) and then after all the spawning behaviour are normal size. After the dancing and displaying, the female would get into the plant and shiver her whole body. The male would shiver alongside her and wrap his tail around her body. This happened with both females, a day or two apart. Have seen no sign of any fry though and am worried I might have hoovered up the eggs when vaccuming the gravel and doing water changes.

Had a little spike of nitrite earlier in the week - up to 0.25 and once up to 0.5 ppm. Did 15% water changes and then 50% water change with the 0.5 spike. All parameters fine now. The females are eating well. How long do you think I should wait before adding more minnows? I was hoping to have corydoras or little gobies as bottom feeders. Would it be best to add those next, hoping that they'll then clear up the food that floats to the bottom of the tank, or would it be better to add more minnows so that the three we have feel more secure in a bit more of a shoal? They have no signs of disease, but I'm concerned that Poorly Platy would have been infectious. Am hoping to eventually have a shoal of WCMMs, a dozen or so of mixed normal, golden and long finned.

Bloody hell, Crabby - you just slipped that little nugget of news in there - how are you/DD? What happened?

Aw thanks BIWI (like your Easter NC btw). My own stupid bloody fault. Was on M40 in crawling traffic, looked across at DD for too long, traffic came to a very sudden stop. I looked back too late, slammed my brakes on and went straight into the back of the guy in front. What a fucking numpty, I'm usually so careful to leave plenty of room on the motorway. DD was ok but winded from the seatbelt against her chest and very shaken, obviously. The guy was absolutely lovely about it, I think because I was so apologetic and worried about him! His car was a big mercedes so built like a tank - I did far more damage to my car than to his. He'll need a new bumper but my old banger is pretty much fucked. It's still drivable for the moment but the front panels and bonnet are shunted back, the bonnet is several inches proud of where it should be and wouldn't open (or if it does, wouldn't close again). Spoke to the insurance and sent pictures and they said they'd write it off but I could get it repaired myself. Took it to my garage yesterday and they said at least £450 -£500 for the repairs, which is probably more than it's worth now (paid £1000 for it 2/3 yrs ago and it's pretty knackered). I'm gutted because it's been really reliable, apart from the central locking which is a law unto itself and sometimes necessitates the passenger climbing in through the back/driver's seat. We totally cannot afford a new car at the moment but will have to rustle something up because we can't do without one.

I was very shaken but physically ok at the time. Woke up with a very sore neck yesterday though, still so today. DD was upset but is physically fine now.

I emailed the poor guy to apologise again and this was his incredibly gracious response...

"Thank you for your kind note and I am pleased to say I am fine and well. I hope you arrived safely to your destination. I am sorry if I appeared to rush the detail gathering only I was conscious that you were in the firing line on the outside lane of the M40 with kids in the car. I thought the safest thing was to conclude it swiftly.

I hope you and the kids are OK and that you weren't too upset. There is no need on my account as it is just a car and no one was hurt.

I appreciate the concern and hope that you were not too distressed in the end once the shock was overcome."

I'm not sure I could be quite so kind to some numpty that rammed me up the arse of my immaculate car!

Goodness that sounds awful. But what a nice note. Have you had yourself checked out at the GP?

Poor crabby! things like that are so easily done and its horrible to be so shaken and upset and sore. Not to mention the pain-in-the-bottom of getting sorted with some wheels again. I laughed at you marvelling at the kind response from the other driver... it IS pretty gracious. You must have charmed him!

Thanks BIWI no I haven't been to the GP as I figured there's not much they could do; it feels muscular. I've got codeine based painkillers for my back anyway so just using those. I should probably take some anti-inflammatories too though, thinking about it.

Thanks Eva I probably scared more than charmed him though... I checked that DD was ok, leapt out of the car and was opening his door as he did, gabbling 'ohmygodareyouhurtI'msosorryareyouokfuckI'msosorryareyouhurt' He was the one reassuring me that he was fine and it's just a car and that 'cars aren't important - people are important'. He was rather good looking too... gallant, good looking and drives a lovely merc... if I weren't in a relationship and hadn't just rammed him roughly up the arse, I'd definitely have tried to be a lot more charming.

Hi all, I'm sorry I've been absent for a few weeks... my Fibro has gone into overdrive and although I'm still low carb'ing, I've lost concentration and motivation to do much. I will be doing the next bootcamp to keep me going

Sorry to hear about your crash Crabby, I hope aches and pains settle quickly. I'm without a car as well atm, I broke down on the main road through Chepstow last week - took me 7hrs instead of an hour to get home(!) DH has been busy trying to fix the problem but until he's done that, we don't know if the engine is ok or f'kd...

Hope everyone else is ok x

Oh no Daisy sorry to hear about both the car and your fibro flareup. I hope you can get your car fixed. I'm still driving mine at the mo as the guys at the garage think it's still legal, although probably not after dark as headlights out of whack. Looks pretty awful though and obviously can't top up oil and water so on limited time. Have to decide whether to go through the insurance and have them value it then pay me what they decide (minus £150 excess) - I reckon I should get at least £3.95p then. Or I scrap it and get what I can for it from the scrapyard. Choices choices.

I'm still here but not able to be on as much as usual - and I have dared finally to step on the scales, only to discover to my utter amazement that I've not changed much! 2lb up, which is pretty impressive considering how bad I've been - pasta, chips, toast, ice cream, GF cake - gah!!

I am trying, in between eating out and generally being bad, to NOT have random carbs for the sake of it - apart from some brown rice pasta when we've needed food in a hurry - so I'm keeping up with the omelettes for lunch etc, and swede mash (and celeriac! it's lovely, isn't it? I've even converted 2 out of 3 of my nieces to swede and celeriac mash, they prefer it to spuds!); but it's just too hard when out and about - with all my other dietary restrictions, going low carb as well is just too painful for everyone else to have to deal with.

I've not had time to read back too much but I will be hanging onto the tail of the wagon, if not completely on it; and will be aiming to get back on properly whenever I get back home and don't have to worry about other people any more.

As an aside, I was incredibly bad when I met up with the lovely Pistey - she, on the other hand, was very good! - and thank her again for the lovely naughty treat.

She's a terror, that Pistey. I'd stay well clear of her if I were you

Hello all - crazy day here , but keeps me sane to catch up on this thread.

crabby - you slipped in vital worrying fact within fishy business and had I not been in love with you I may have......sped read missed out that part . Really hope all is ok - somehow the car issue will work itself out. As my wise DD2 said to me in Feb, when in bathroom hell in sub zero temperatures, with no hot water or inside toilet....... " it WILL be all right in the end, and if its not right - then its not the end " aged 15 going on a wiser age..... and what a nice reply from arse shunted victim.....

wetting my pants ( midrise crack I think trashy) at the description of shit covered puppy at 2am........soooo looking forward to that in a few weeks time !

All calming here - DD3 had a good nights sleep last night with the aid of a little tad of piriton and today she is having at least 2 painfee hours in between her pain meds. She is becoming bored and is asking demanding to ride her bike etc - so thats a good sign even if a management issue !

lMD belated congrats on job
thumb - 2lb's is nothing - just a big poo sorry trash et al - still not mumsnet enough to say shit out loud first.

hello to all - on phone, so can't scrawl back properly to do a superpost !
Happy Good Friday....

xxx

Whoosh bless you! Somehow the car seemed less important than the fish business...

And in the same vein... I have more fish! I know I shouldn't really -at all-- according to the forums, and please SayraFishGuru Don'tJudgeMe [facepalm]... but I was concerned that the 3 WCMMs were lurking in the plants during the day (but not at night, when they're all over the tank) because 3 is too few a number for them to feel secure as a wee shoal. So, again, I allowed myself to be convinced by an 'expert' (manager of LFS whom I do actually trust quite a bit) into doing what I secretly wanted to do anyway. I decided to get an additional 3 WCMMs, and then he really did talk me into getting 3 peppered corydoras too.

It totally seems to have worked, and the established three and the new three are now swimming around in a shoal, chasing and darting and generally being very active. My established male is blissed out to have another two females to hassle, but is giving the new boy a bit of grief, as the LFS manager warned me he might. No one has lurked in the plants since their arrival though and they all look most perky. The corys look very chirpy too.

I should really read back, edit, put a warning about mad fishyness to come etc, but I'm a bit pissed in white wine, want to go back to watching fishies, and can't be arsed, so y'll all just have to skim read once you realise that it's all fishy nonsense again. Big love and kisses xxxx

Crabby I read your post earlier but didn't have time to reply. I was coming on to say that I would probably get more wcmm so since you have that's good!

I would have got them first then the corys later but it won't matter, I love the corys I have, I've got sterbai corys.

Fry doing really well, think I've got 10 and they are all growing really quickly. I decided against doing a nursery tank (don't really have space for it) and just left them. The adults seem to avoid them which is good

I will stick some more baby fishy pictures up when they have grown a bit.

Fishiness Over

Weather has been lovely here so I've got the garden all under control , going to have dinner outside with a glass of rose. Hope weather has been nice for the rest of you.

Rose here too - cheers

crabby sorry to hear about your fish and car trouble. Can't remember if you were on the bootcamp thread last year where I did pretty much exactly the same. It was horrible and I was quite shaken for a couple of days.

Well Xander has now been here for two weeks already and has been home for two days, he wasn't due for another three! My eating at the moment is all over the place, I don't think I have eaten enough for a few days but have got my hunger back today and feel a bit less shocked and a bit more normal. I appear to be about only 9 lbs more than when I got pregnant at nearly my lowest weight so am hoping to revel in the fresh salad and veg having lived off vending machine snacks and keep it that way for now!

Oh shit Crabby when I read your first post I also was thinking of you and DD and hoping you were ok. Then when I replied you had just posted about fishies so it went out of my head about your accident so I hope you don't think I am a horrible person for going on about fish instead of asking how you are!

B: scrambled egg, mushrooms, cucumber, oily dressing
L: mozzarella, tomato, rocket, basil
D: Spinach & feta bake, broccoli...
P: Easter egg! Hee hee hee

Happy Easter all, whether you are on the wagon or off

Crabby - just read back about your shunt - if your sore neck persists for more than a couple of days, do consider seeing either an osteo/chiro person or a massage therapist (proper one, not a floaty beauty therapy type one) to get your neck muscles sorted out. Sounds like you have a whiplash, and they can cause ongoing problems if not dealt with early, but you have to allow 2-3 days after the injury for the inflammation to go down before going for treatment.
Bugger re the car as well - I hate when a good reliable car is written off by silliness, whosever it is (is whosever even a word?) - I have salvaged a "written off" car before now but that's only because the damage was cosmetic and I just didn't get anything done about it. Yours sounds worse :(

Glad you and DD are ok though, horrible shock for you :(

Re. fish - I love corydoras, they're so pretty! we had several of them when I had a tropical fish tank - one lost a pectoral fin, we don't know how, so we called him Stumpy. I was very sad when Stumpy died. :(

My goodness, drama a plenty this week! crabby you poor darling, I am so pleased nobody got badly hurt - although, it's still shocking, sounds like you've been proper grown up and just got on with it all. I am so pleased the hunky merc driver didn't do the whiplash thing! Yeay, there are decent humans out there. Very impressed with your stalwart approach to setting up fishy dignitas in your freezer! Rip platy.....

The trashpup has settled much nicer in a smaller crate rat carrier I had spare it's perfectly tiny, and I have stuck a scrap of reindeer fur in the bottom, along with my lavender filled sore neck bean bag that I heat up in the microwave. It probably reeks of me as well as the lavender, as I've had it on my neck getting all sweaty when it's playing up, so anyway, had blissful peace last night and night before! I have a massive crate for if she needs to be somewhere safe in the daytime - more like a run if I'm honest, but so far it's only been needed while I've had a bath or been cooking. I've just shoved her in a bag whilst I'm in the shops or at work....

whooshy I'm gonna put you on a swearing course... to build up your confidence

we're home now from house sitting - glad, as was finding food organisation a struggle. I seem to always have more on in the hols too. Work always gets busier as people go away and need dog sitting, which is great money wise natch, but I get weary. Have had a little whippet this week, nine months old, and to be perfectly frank it's a naughty little shit. Neurotic pacing, food stealing, and night whining, plus that following you everywhere by walking directly between my bastard legs. I already look after dps staffy (who's an old gent) while dp's at work, so it felt really busy this week. I have a new walking client everyday too, and he's an enormous staffy lurcher, who's a rescue, and completely untrained for lead walking.... I love my job so much, but having change in the routine is taxing. I work super hard on all the dogs to get their behaviour to a required standar, and then some new dogs can really easily knock it all out of whack for weeks.... ho hum, first world problem. Next week should be a blast, as I have my favourite client for the week, a retired greyhound, and on Tuesday a lovely newish client has booked her gently saluki for an overnight stay, so two big pointy dogs at once. Hope they don't want to eat the trashpuppy....

Foodwise, I have been fine since the chocolate incident.... although I shat like a bastard for two days afterwards As I've been away, I haven't weighed for days now. I have struggled with water whilst house sitting, not majorly. I prefer to get all my water down during daylight hours, so any night drinking is bonus water, but I have had to do some evening chugging to keep up, and that doesn't sit well plus I hate getting up to piss in the night

We went to a 1st birthday party today, and I had taken pup to get second jabs, so was running late and didn't eat enough before hand. I was genuinely hungry, but there was very little I could eat there. I turned down cup cake after cupcake, shortbread, doritos, cheese/fruit scones. I ate the top of several slices of pizza and gave away the bread and then my crowning glory came tonight at teatime when we had pie and chips. There is an incredible pie shop on the way home from hexham (brockbushes if anyones passing) and dp - who is off the wagon - bought two chicken and ham ones. I had mine with salad, and left all the crusts

Excuse my waffling hello to eva and all my other lovelies. I'm sooooo glad to be home in my own beddy.