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Ex dies without paying maintenance arrears

168 replies

Bee2022 · 26/07/2022 11:20

Can anything be done if my childs father dies while still owing child maintenance arrears but has no money or assets too sell, he's been living on the streets for years and won't accept help or benefits

OP posts:
Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 26/07/2022 15:16

I'm sorry about your situation but when your kids are grown you can be proud you did that by yourself.

I'm sure they will be so proud of their mum sleeping with someone else whilst with their dad.

notnownorma · 26/07/2022 15:17

Geordielass1987 · 26/07/2022 11:28

Wow so the children have lost a father but you want to chase child maintenance arrears. I understand the frustration but really?

They have not "lost a father". Sperm donor, maybe. But God forbid women ever need to pay the bills eh?

TheGrimSqueakersFlea · 26/07/2022 15:18

Don't really see how I broke the guidelines by stating a fact but I'll put it a different way

Op you seriously need to take a look at yourself and make some changes.

EffYouSeeKaye · 26/07/2022 15:18

‘I fell out of love with him but I started seeing someone else before he left me and he see me as betraying him’

Ermmm… between this and implying he has made himself actually homeless just to avoid paying child maintenance, you aren’t sounding too great here, and that’s before you get to the part about pondering how his death will work out for you financially. 😮

Bigmouthshouthotair · 26/07/2022 15:20

notnownorma · 26/07/2022 15:17

They have not "lost a father". Sperm donor, maybe. But God forbid women ever need to pay the bills eh?

God forbid women should take responsibility for their own actions.

I presume OPs fuck buddy is contributing as she wheeled him in as a replacement father

AllNightDiner · 26/07/2022 15:22

God, what a spiteful pile-on as usual. You don't develop mental health problems so severe that you end up street homeless just because your wife leaves you for another man. OP is not responsible for his situation; far more likely, in fact, that problems he already had contributed to the marital breakdown.

OP raises an interesting point, though, not that I think there's an answer to it. But if he's entitled to benefits but declines to access them for whatever reason, why should his minor children not be entitled to that money for their support? I don't think it's unreasonable to hope - or even campaign - for a change to the benefits system that would allow money to be diverted in that way.

Bigmouthshouthotair · 26/07/2022 15:22

hybridoaties · 26/07/2022 14:56

My ex owes £20.000 on maintenance and I received a letter a couple of years ago saying they are writing it off because they have no way to make him pay. The kids are still 10&15 and I've never received a penny. Move on, I know it is frustrating but if the man has been living on the streets he's clearly not in a position to pay anyway. I'm sorry about your situation but when your kids are grown you can be proud you did that by yourself.

Not doing it by herself though is she if you actually read her posts

SofiaSoFar · 26/07/2022 15:24

@AllNightDiner

OP is not responsible for his situation; far more likely, in fact, that problems he already had contributed to the marital breakdown.

Absolutely! Must be the man's fault.

SarahSteedman82 · 26/07/2022 15:29

Bit nasty aren't you OP.

Coyoacan · 26/07/2022 15:33

Geordielass1987

You've obviously never had to raise a child with next to no money.

Johnnysgirl · 26/07/2022 15:36

AllNightDiner · 26/07/2022 15:22

God, what a spiteful pile-on as usual. You don't develop mental health problems so severe that you end up street homeless just because your wife leaves you for another man. OP is not responsible for his situation; far more likely, in fact, that problems he already had contributed to the marital breakdown.

OP raises an interesting point, though, not that I think there's an answer to it. But if he's entitled to benefits but declines to access them for whatever reason, why should his minor children not be entitled to that money for their support? I don't think it's unreasonable to hope - or even campaign - for a change to the benefits system that would allow money to be diverted in that way.

Wtf? I'll bet op is already claiming anything she can in her own right. She really doesn't need a homeless man's benefit's "diverted" her way as well.

MayThe4th · 26/07/2022 15:40

OP is not responsible for his situation; far more likely, in fact, that problems he already had contributed to the marital breakdown. will you be saying that on the next relationship thread where a woman has just found out her partner is having an affair and is leaving her for the OW? Or is your assumption that he must be responsible only applicable because he’s a man?

Anyway this thread is bloody bizarre. I’m almost wondering if the OP is planning to bump him off if she thinks she might get maintenance from him that way. Maintenance which he doesn’t actually owe since he doesn’t have an income.

Bigmouthshouthotair · 26/07/2022 15:40

Coyoacan · 26/07/2022 15:33

Geordielass1987

You've obviously never had to raise a child with next to no money.

Where does it say they have no money?

She also has more money than her ex.

madasawethen · 26/07/2022 15:50

He's a deadbeat. Likely always has been. I wouldn't worry about getting anything from him because you won't.

Let go and work to provide the best life for your DC so they don't end up like that.

greatblueheron · 26/07/2022 16:00

Geordielass1987 · 26/07/2022 11:28

Wow so the children have lost a father but you want to chase child maintenance arrears. I understand the frustration but really?

Frankly, it sounds like they've already lost him, and OP is now wondering if she can at least get financial help if he continues down the path he's deliberately chosen to avoid supporting them.

Whichjobnow · 26/07/2022 16:13

AllNightDiner · 26/07/2022 15:22

God, what a spiteful pile-on as usual. You don't develop mental health problems so severe that you end up street homeless just because your wife leaves you for another man. OP is not responsible for his situation; far more likely, in fact, that problems he already had contributed to the marital breakdown.

OP raises an interesting point, though, not that I think there's an answer to it. But if he's entitled to benefits but declines to access them for whatever reason, why should his minor children not be entitled to that money for their support? I don't think it's unreasonable to hope - or even campaign - for a change to the benefits system that would allow money to be diverted in that way.

There's no way that would work. There are no benefits that are automatically awarded (except child benefit) - they all require evidence that the applicant is looking for work/unable to work/disabled etc etc. If the person concerned isn't willing to complete the necessary forms and provide evidence showing entitlement for themselves, they're not going to do it for their children.

Maybeebebe · 26/07/2022 16:13

upthem5 · 26/07/2022 13:10

This is one of the weirdest things I’ve ever read.

OP - I doubt your exDH is on the streets JUST to spite you.

Believe it or not, but I don’t think his world revolves around you THIS much. And you really need to stop thinking it does. It’s a very self centred and arrogant view to take.

I can’t believe people are this bitter and twisted. This is a man’s life.

Don’t you have an ounce of compassion? Those poor kids 😭

No, there are people that twisted

Ohthatsexciting · 26/07/2022 16:15

Are you the op @Maybeebebe

because that PP’s run down of the situation is my interpretation of the Op too. And no “twisting” going on

CatsAreCrackers · 26/07/2022 16:17

madasawethen · 26/07/2022 15:50

He's a deadbeat. Likely always has been. I wouldn't worry about getting anything from him because you won't.

Let go and work to provide the best life for your DC so they don't end up like that.

Just out of curiosity, how do you know he's a "deadbeat"? The OP has never said he has done anything wrong, in fact she admitted SHE fell out of love with HIM and then moved another man in to replace him before he even left! He might have been deserving of such treatment, or he may have been a loving husband and father who was totally knocked sideways and into a downward spiral by her infidelity. Like many women are here on this site, just about every day...

Or is it a case of the man is ALWAYS at fault and deserving of being mistreated because he MUST have done something to drive his wife to cheat on him? Sigh...

Ohthatsexciting · 26/07/2022 16:17

The amount of CMS the children would get in the event the government paid them the correct CMS from his benefit entitlement would be about £7 a week. Maximum.

Completelyovernonsense · 26/07/2022 16:19

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lucylooareyou · 26/07/2022 16:26

Wait, so...

You had an affair.
You then kicked out your children's father from his marital home, and moved in your affair partner.
You then refused to allow your ExDP to see his children.
He is now homeless.
And your main concern is that if he dies he may never pay his child maintanence?

I am actually baffled at the selfishness oozing from this post.

If this was reversed, and you were posting as a women that the above had happened to you, the whole of MN would be in uproar supporting you.

But because this happened to a man, he has been labelled as a 'deadbeat' and much worse.

You don't need a lecture from a stranger, but you seriously seem to lack empathy and compassion.

Bigmouthshouthotair · 26/07/2022 16:31

madasawethen · 26/07/2022 15:50

He's a deadbeat. Likely always has been. I wouldn't worry about getting anything from him because you won't.

Let go and work to provide the best life for your DC so they don't end up like that.

Do you know him then.

I would hope my DC didn't get a fuck buddy, move him in and replace their DF, but hey them man is always wrong, right?

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 26/07/2022 16:35

madasawethen · 26/07/2022 15:50

He's a deadbeat. Likely always has been. I wouldn't worry about getting anything from him because you won't.

Let go and work to provide the best life for your DC so they don't end up like that.

What does that make the OP who shagged around then without thinking of the family?

Crazykatie · 26/07/2022 16:41

If he has really got no assets, write it off, if you think he has hidden assets,
property, family money, that sort of thing then you could claim on his estate if he died.
Is he likely to die anytime soon.

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