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Ex dies without paying maintenance arrears

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Bee2022 · 26/07/2022 11:20

Can anything be done if my childs father dies while still owing child maintenance arrears but has no money or assets too sell, he's been living on the streets for years and won't accept help or benefits

OP posts:
Jalisco · 26/07/2022 13:33

dworky · 26/07/2022 13:01

A shit, neglectful father if he hasn't paid for the upkeep of his children.

Are you reading the same thread that I am? You know, the one where the father is a destitute homeless person? And where a contributing factor to his mental ill health was probably his wife cheating on him, breaking up the family and then moving the other man in to the home they had shared? If the roles in that scenario were reversed, I am damned sure you'd have no sympathy with a cheating man who moved his girlfriend into the family home. And plenty for the poor homeless woman. Honestly, the hypocrisy on this site is appalling. Whatever a woman does is fine and dandy but men are always the perpetrator of all bad things, never the victims. How simple life would be if that were true.

upthem5 · 26/07/2022 13:35

Jalisco · 26/07/2022 13:33

Are you reading the same thread that I am? You know, the one where the father is a destitute homeless person? And where a contributing factor to his mental ill health was probably his wife cheating on him, breaking up the family and then moving the other man in to the home they had shared? If the roles in that scenario were reversed, I am damned sure you'd have no sympathy with a cheating man who moved his girlfriend into the family home. And plenty for the poor homeless woman. Honestly, the hypocrisy on this site is appalling. Whatever a woman does is fine and dandy but men are always the perpetrator of all bad things, never the victims. How simple life would be if that were true.

Agreed! 👏🏻

What a sad thread x

StationaryMagpie · 26/07/2022 13:36

how about you have a bit of fucking humanity, stop chasing him for the money and allow him a life?

If you've pushed him to the point of him preferring to live homeless than pay, just wash your hands of him and get on with supporting your kids yourself.

MrsMop1964 · 26/07/2022 13:38

My A- level law teacher used to say 'there's an old legal maxim- you can't get blood out of a stone'.

Glamping4Break · 26/07/2022 13:40

If you were married when he passed away, you may have been eligible for widows payment from the Government

britneyisfree · 26/07/2022 13:40

Are you planning on doing him in???????

Leave him ALONE.

Poor guy. I never ever thought I'd take the side of someone who doesn't pay maintenance. 🤬

Glamping4Break · 26/07/2022 13:40

Sorry for your loss

Bigmouthshouthotair · 26/07/2022 13:41

Glamping4Break · 26/07/2022 13:40

Sorry for your loss

RTFT he isn't dead!

Bluecatsforever · 26/07/2022 13:41

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madmumofteens · 26/07/2022 13:47

Oh dear OP another saying "there are no pockets in a shroud" shameless post I'm usually on the woman's side but come on

MeridianB · 26/07/2022 13:50

On the off-chancd that this is real, I will say it's unlikely that he chose to sleep on the streets to avoid paying child maintenance. There are tend of thousands of employed men (and women) who find sneaky ways to pay nothing or as little as possible. He sounds like the one who needs help in this scenario.

butterflied · 26/07/2022 13:51

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This - except nicer than I would have put it.

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 26/07/2022 13:53

A shit, neglectful father if he hasn't paid for the upkeep of his children.

Did you even read the thread?

This poster is disgraceful and I feel sorry for the kids with a mum like her.

CallOnMe · 26/07/2022 13:54

A shit, neglectful father if he hasn't paid for the upkeep of his children.

Are you the new bf?

anon2334 · 26/07/2022 13:55

Bee2022 · 26/07/2022 11:37

Sorry my fault I wrote this in a hurry and forgot start with if it happens, he's still alive at the moment but is doing everything he can to avoid paying arrears including not claiming benefits and living on the streets and giving everything he owned away long ago

You're a disgusting or this a joke thread. Men commit suicide from having their children taken away from they and you said replace him? Is this parental alienation. Goodness some people are sick to even write this. Fine fall put of love but what you've write is sick

BobMortimersPocketMeat · 26/07/2022 13:57

AquaticSewingMachine · 26/07/2022 12:42

Frankly, there are much easier ways to pay zero maintenance than to make yourself street homeless. I would very much doubt he is voluntarily homeless and penniless purely to avoid maintenance - I'd expect he has a drug or alcohol problem.

At any rate. You know the saying about how you can't get blood out of a stone? Yeah.

This. The idea that he’s doing this at you seems bizarre. Many people don’t cope with relationship breakdowns, and it’s often said how many of us are only two missed pay checks from homelessness. It’s frighteningly easy, especially if you have mental health problems, to end up on the streets.

In your shoes I would be more concerned that your children were missing out on a relationship with their father than the few pounds a week that you might be due from any benefits he was able to claim. You are obviously managing financially so I don’t understand why this is your focus. It feels entirely heartless, especially when the breakup was due to your infidelity.

Frankola · 26/07/2022 13:58

I dont really believe he's gone to such an extent of living on the streets to neglect paying £7 a week. Do you OP?

I understand this must be horrible for you but to be going as far as depending on his death to get any money is a bit over the top isn't it?

LetHimHaveIt · 26/07/2022 14:01

Bloody hell. This is definitely making the 'Top Ten Fucking Loopy Posts'. No idea, OP. In novels, homeless men sometimes have a safety deposit box brimful of cash and jewels. The key will be on a bit of string around his neck but the numbers will be filed off so you'll have to try a variety of combinations based on dates which were special to him. Good Hunting!

SinisterBumFacedCat · 26/07/2022 14:04

Is he ill? Are you expecting him to die or planning to bump him off?

Cold as fuck

CustardySergeant · 26/07/2022 14:06

Jalisco · 26/07/2022 13:33

Are you reading the same thread that I am? You know, the one where the father is a destitute homeless person? And where a contributing factor to his mental ill health was probably his wife cheating on him, breaking up the family and then moving the other man in to the home they had shared? If the roles in that scenario were reversed, I am damned sure you'd have no sympathy with a cheating man who moved his girlfriend into the family home. And plenty for the poor homeless woman. Honestly, the hypocrisy on this site is appalling. Whatever a woman does is fine and dandy but men are always the perpetrator of all bad things, never the victims. How simple life would be if that were true.

I couldn't agree more. It's sickening.

weleasewoderick23 · 26/07/2022 14:08

I agree with pp that this is disgusting.

My ex never paid maintenance and died two years ago. It's shit doing it all on my own but it is what it is.

I'm more concerned about my ds losing his dad.

Bentoforthehorde · 26/07/2022 14:12

I know things have gone down an 'OP is the devil' kind of route, but on the off chance you read this:

My dad hates my mum. Like, worked self employed, quit his job and moved every time the Child Maintenence people found him level of hate. He didn't want my mum getting any of his money, his anger completely blinded him from seeing it was for my brother and I. He would have done the same as your ex.
The point is though, I'm 37. You won't see that money.
My ex has the money taken from his wages by the CMS because of abuse we have no direct contact, but that obviously requires a wage.

Louise0701 · 26/07/2022 14:12

You want maintenance from a homeless man living on the streets? You know you need an address for benefits and a bank account, yes?

i can see why you’re an ex!

Louise0701 · 26/07/2022 14:13

@Bee2022 you did betray him and you did take his child away. Poor man has lost everything and you want to know how you can get your hands on money if he dies.

AMindNeedsBooks · 26/07/2022 14:13

When you say he has gone to all these lengths to avoid paying for his children...after you cheated on/'replaced' him, did you attempt to help him at all or just chase for money?

Ex or no ex, if I saw my child's father struggling I would try my best to help him. Particularly if I caused the problems. I would hate to think my children's father was on the streets and they were missing out on a relationship with him.

How was contact with his children before he was homeless?