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Ex lied to me to stop me having kids

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RoseNarene · 28/05/2017 12:34

So I broke up with ex on 14th February after the other woman contacted me and shared the disgusting conversations the two of them were having. Started divorce process soon after. My girls are only just 1 and almost 5. No court orders in place yet; I've been to my single session mediation and his is in a couple of weeks. What I do know is that he wants a shared residency arrangement whereby he gets the house and has the kids 4 days a week, and I get them 3 days. Currently, and before we broke up, I work 2 days a week (when the girls are at nursery) and he is full time. His idea is that I will go back to work full time because I have better career prospects and earn more money therefore I can afford to support myself, whereas he doesn't and can't, therefore that means he should get house and kids and all the benefits and that I should pay him maintenance.

Oh and it's also important to note that we are currently alternating our time spent in our marital home 50:50. Kids are always there but not both parents at the same time.

I work Saturdays (temporarily) so he has the kids at the weekend. However, I learnt that he was working this Saturday randomly so had his parents look after the kids. No problem there. Only, I then find that the kids stayed the night at his parents, and he didn't. He stayed at the marital home. I was pissed off on two counts - firstly that I was kicked out of the house when he could've gone to his parents (that's where he stays when he's not at our house) and secondly because I was losing out on time with my kids in favour of his parents! I accept I must share with him, but not them. I asked if I could have the kids back Saturday evening as they should be with at least one of their parents and he simply said no, that Saturday night was his responsibility and he had organised it so tough shit basically.

So I begin asking can I have them back Sunday morning (I've been ill this week so haven't seen them since Tuesday) and he says no because that's HIS time with the kids (it usually is) and that they are all going out that day. I ask if I can have them in the afternoon and he says no. The only thing he will allow is me driving an hour to his parents to get the girls at 6pm, which would be awful for the 1 year old as she would want to cuddle me etc and certainly wouldn't want to be shoved in the car for an hours journey home the moment she sees her mummy for the first time in days. So ex says he will bring them home Monday morning.

However... I noticed that he has left his car in the car park of a nearby restaurant (walking distance from our house). It's still there now, and it's lunchtime. So there's no way he could be at his parents without his car.

And then my friend texted me to say that she saw my ex in town doing a bike ride with a cycle club!! I looked up the club and they ride between 9am and 1pm!! Once he finishes and gets back to the car, it'll take him an hour to get back to his parents, where he has left the kids. So he isn't even with them and won't be until at least 2pm!

So he has lied to me, telling me that he is with the kids today and that's why I can't have them, because it's his time, when in reality, my kids are with his fucking parents while he goes on a bike ride and I'm left on my own and haven't seen my kids since Tuesday!!! I'm crying right now I'm so upset, I miss them so badly and he fucking lied to me!

Please tell me I can use this against him when he tries to get 50/50 residency and acts like all he does is in the best interests of the kids when clearly it isn't, unless keeping children from their mother is considered in children's best interests these days!!!

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Patriciathestripper1 · 29/05/2017 11:03

Jayzus what are you thinking? Keep a diary starting asap about his bike riding and palming kids off at grandmas.
Move back into the house and tell him 50:50 not working. Go to citizens advice on what you can claim to help you financially (although your solicitor should tell you) tell him to fuck off and live with the ow.

kittybiscuits · 29/05/2017 11:05

You shouldn't change the locks. I doubt it will matter because once you reinstate yourself in the family home he will kick off. Consider recording him on up phone. If he makes any threats or implied threats to harm you, or if he lays a finger on You, call the police. Excellent call on cutting contact with his parents. They sound awful too.

kittybiscuits · 29/05/2017 11:08

They are bullies. We will support you to stand up to them.

UnicornSparkles1 · 29/05/2017 11:15

No you can't change the locks but you can't ask your sol to apply for a non molestation order (so he can't contact you) and an occupation order (so he HAS to move out).

Are you sure that your sol is one of the best in the area?? Her advice to you sounds really questionable.

UnicornSparkles1 · 29/05/2017 11:16

*can ask, not can't!

Iris65 · 29/05/2017 11:19

Well stop moving out, even if you end up on a sofa bed in the lounge or sharing with the children.Start spending every night with your DC in your home...He works full time, you don't that is the precedence don't lose it. It's clear it's about him keeping the house and not spending time with the DC angry. Start this today, no more staying elsewhere.

This.

Fishface77 · 29/05/2017 11:22

Move back home op ASAP.
Every chance you get call the police. Build a case against him cus that's what he's doing to you.

Iris65 · 29/05/2017 11:26

Move back in, today, and get a lock on the bedroom door. You've been the primary carer, not him. This too.

For whatever reason you are leaving the house and leaving the kids with him voluntarily. That is how the family court will see it. They will take the pattern as one that is working and that is how it will stay until you are forced to take a full time job by the need to support yourself.
This is so tough for you but you have to get organised and be brutally selfish. Flowers

PeanutButterJellyTimeforTea · 29/05/2017 11:30

You CAN change the locks. Legally you shouldn't, but who is going to stop you? I would do just that.
Either way you have to get back in the house and stay there. If he can claim you've moved out he has a much better chance of getting it all his way. And your solr sounds rubbish.

SuburbanRhonda · 29/05/2017 11:37

The OP said she isn't going to change the locks because she knows it's not the right thing to do.

stolemyusername · 29/05/2017 11:38

Looking at it from the outside I would say that your current arrangement is that he is the primary carer of the children - he's even arranging childcare so that you are kept away from them, he's completely moving you out of the picture as a non resident parent - a judge is going to look at this arrangement and see that it's working (even if you don't like it) and he's going to get his own way.

Put your foot down NOW and change the status quo before it even gets in front of a judge! Move the two children into one room, move his clothes out of the main bedroom into the spare soon and put a lock on your door.

If he drops the children with his parents, go and pick them up! They can't stop you from doing so.

Honestly, he's walking all over you.

PeanutButterJellyTimeforTea · 29/05/2017 11:39

I think she might change her mind about that.

UnicornSparkles1 · 29/05/2017 11:47

As far as the judge will see it, you moved out three months ago and he became the children's primary carer. You have to wake up and see this, and you have to change it and FAST.

UnicornSparkles1 · 29/05/2017 11:48

The reason why you moved out (his cheating) is irrelevant. You left the kids and he became the primary carer whilst juggling a full time job. You have to be able to see how this looks from the outside?

MadAsFluff · 29/05/2017 12:37

Please please heed the advice given by people who have been through this. Don't worry about rocking the boat - it's sinking already- you have to save your children.
I have no experience of a situation like this but reading your posts I very much get the impression that he appears to be the primary carer. And I'm sure he will easily be able to present it this way to a judge.
Get back in the house. Get a lock. Call the police every time he is aggressive towards you. when you're back in the house and PIL are childminding- go pick them up. They cannot stop you. Just say ' oh thanks very much but I'm home now so no need to impose on you '.
If you've got the guts I'd also say quit your job. Definitely don't increase your hours because you can bet your life, the minute he can he will be reducing his hours to make you the main earner

F1ipFlopFrus · 29/05/2017 13:55

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LonnyVonnyWilsonFrickett · 29/05/2017 14:18

He absolutely already has a barrister because he has no interest in properly engaging in mediation. He just sees mediation as one more person to get 'on side' in his campaign to persuade people that he is your DCs primary carer so he can keep the house.

Lovey, you really need to act. Do call Women's Aid and maybe ask them who they think the local area's best solicitors are? And get more than one name because my money is on your DH already having engaged the 'best' one. Sad

DixieNormas · 29/05/2017 14:21

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RoseNarene · 29/05/2017 14:31

I appreciate what you're saying but it'd be impossible for me to not leave the house. I have to go away to Manchester for a couple of days for work and obviously I have my regular job too. If I quit altogether it'll put both of us in an awful financial situation and could also impact my career - I don't want to jeopardise my future earning potential cos once I am on my own I will only have my wage to live on.

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MaisyPops · 29/05/2017 14:34

He's got this set up to preserve his position of power.
You need legal advice or support from women's aid.

As it stands, he had the kids more, he is in the house more and he can take the kids to his parents so he doesn't have to parent. He can force you out so you have to work full time and my guess is as soon as that happens he'll conveniently go part time and expect you to pay more maintenance to cover his lifestyle.

Get advice and quick.

Butterymuffin · 29/05/2017 14:35

Yes - the answer to 'why has he got a barrister?' is 'because he intends to screw you over'. That's his plan with 50/50, not 'what's best for the kids'. Take action on that basis. Think of any women you know nearby who've got divorced and ask them who their solicitor was (assuming they came out of it OK) and get recommendations. And as a pp said go and get the kids from his parents every time they are there and brook no argument. Plus think up a line to use when he says something provocative like 'it'll hurt you to lose the house'. Something neutral like 'we'll have to see how it all works out' or 'we'll sort out our arrangements in time' that is technically a response but gives nothing away - keep using that broken record style. Put up a conversational wall.

Butterymuffin · 29/05/2017 14:37

The going away for work - ring in sick or something just for once. If your job requires this regularly, you may need a bit of a rethink. But get yourself out of it for the immediate future.

spottysuperted · 29/05/2017 14:38

rose what people mean is (aside from travelling for work) to sleep at your family home

You can still leave during the day to go to your regular 2 day a week job

In the kindest possible way you seem to be dismissing that point

MaisyPops · 29/05/2017 14:38

Great advice from butterfly.

He's pissed that you aren't accepting his crap anymore and now wants to screw you over in punishment.

UnicornSparkles1 · 29/05/2017 14:47

You do realise that you could be well on your way to losing custody of your children?

As the current situation stands, he looks after the children 5 nights out of 7 - YOU are the non resident parent. The longer this goes on for the more likely a judge will be to make it official.

With all due respect, fuck your work trip, pack up as much as you can carry and take you and your children to a refuge before you lose them.

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