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Mother Faked DNA Test

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RachelOrgan73 · 29/10/2020 21:11

So sorry for the long post and not sure i have put this in the right place, but could really do with some help. I will try to keep it as succinct as possible.

Boy meets girl who has 2 children from previous relationship. Boy moves in, Girl gets pregnant, Boy and Girl live happily for a very short while, She becomes quite controlling and ties to alienate him from his family. One afternoon he and his baby daughter go to spend time with his family and she refuses to come. She calls the police and claims that her eldest daughter told her that he had hit the baby. Of course, this was not true and the police could see this. They split up and boy goes to court and wins shared custody.
2 weeks past of 50/50 custody and out of the blue he receives in the post a letter saying she has done a DNA on another man and Man B is the Father and not Man A. Never seeing daughter again. The results look odd so it goes back to court who order a legal DNA test. When these results come back the identifying photograph has the child that was swabbed wrapped tightly in a blanket and a dummy in her mouth. The court agreed that there was no way of seeing that the child tested was in fact the correct child.
2nd DNA test ordered. Results come back. This time, Child has thick headband on and is turned at an angle and fast asleep, and although not clear to the court, clear to Boy that this child is the Girls Middle Daughter and not the baby.
Court Order a third DNA to be conducted at a Doctors Surgery. Doctor has never seen the chid before so blindly does the test and the results come back with a very clear photo of the MIDDLE daughter not the baby. This time the Father of the middle daughter confirms that the child in the photograph is his own and not the baby.
Back to court. She doesnt turn up. ANOTHER DNA ordered,. This time it is for tomorrow and she must arrive with all three children and this time the Father(?) is allowed to be present. I dont think she is going to turn up as she knows that the game is up. So what happens now?
It has been nearly a year since he last saw his daughter and this is destroying him.
Any advice?

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ThistleWitch · 29/10/2020 21:12

Not sure this is the right place for you (AMA is where an expert comes on and says "I'm an expert in XYZ, ask me anything)

I will report and ask to move to legal for you :-)

RachelOrgan73 · 29/10/2020 21:16

@ThistlWitch - thank you.

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Smallsteps88 · 29/10/2020 21:20

It’s already in court being dealt with so there isn’t really much time can advise. Presumably dad has a solicitor?

RachelOrgan73 · 29/10/2020 21:23

@Smallsteps88

It’s already in court being dealt with so there isn’t really much time can advise. Presumably dad has a solicitor?
He does but trying to use her minimally due to cost. Girl had Legal Aid (we dont even know how) but this has now been withdrawn. I was just hoping someone might have an idea of what would happen if she refuses to do the DNA or if it is proven that he has faked it so many times?
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LouTheGhoulMumsnet · 29/10/2020 21:24

Hi there, @RachelOrgan73 - we're just bobbing on here to let you know that we've shifted your thread over to Legal Matters. Hope that helps.

carly2803 · 29/10/2020 21:58

bloody hell - i didnt even know you could forge a dna test

are they done at home?!

what an awful situation - bump for you

RachelOrgan73 · 29/10/2020 22:04

@carly2803

bloody hell - i didnt even know you could forge a dna test

are they done at home?!

what an awful situation - bump for you

We dont know how she did it, but the results are definitely not correct. She so say did a triangulated test which made it easier for us to prove it. Each person has a set of DNA markers that are made up by 2 numbers. You take 1 number from your Mum and the other from your Dad. If even one of those sets (21 are tested) do not match the Father then the probability is that he isnt the DAD. Although the test results came back that this other Man WAS a match, when you looked closely at the numbers, 5 of them showed that the child did not carry the same number as the Father for that Marker which means he could not possibly be the Father. To complicate things further, when we contacted Father B he was obviously very upset. He then went and had his other daughter (he had no doubt that he was her Daddy) tested privately and got the results and the DNA markers that came back as his own DNA markers for that one bear no resemblance to the test that psycho girl did! If that makes sense. It is so hard to explain. And unbeleivable. I think I would have a hard job convincing Jeremy Kyle to take this one on!
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slipperywhensparticus · 29/10/2020 22:08

@carly2803

bloody hell - i didnt even know you could forge a dna test

are they done at home?!

what an awful situation - bump for you

Not at home no

ive only ever heard of dads faking a DNA before people getting their brothers or friends to take a test for them one woman on the American Court show wanted him filmed taking the test as she was sure he got someone else to take the first test (which said he wasn't the father) he kicked off massively about it finally took it turns out he was the dad 🙄

RachelOrgan73 · 29/10/2020 22:11

This one was done at home. You can buy a kit from Boots

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slipperywhensparticus · 29/10/2020 22:12

Naaa jezza would take it on think of the soundbites he could get out of it

Used this poor bloke for a baby and DUMPED HIM

if you thought she was dodgy you should have WRAPPED IT

I'm not judging here but HOW MANY KIDS BY HOW MANY DADS HAVE YOU GOT???

RAISE THE BAR

slipperywhensparticus · 29/10/2020 22:14

Ahem anyway fingers crossed it gets sorted this time im pretty sure there are punitive measures court can take against non compliant mothers when its sorted he needs to get visitation set in stone

Sunnydaysstillhere · 29/10/2020 22:18

The dm is actually risking custody of the dc doing this.
Court ordered dna are very stringent... Photos signed for of each dc tested. And the dm and suspected df..
Very thorough.

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LucyLeak · 29/10/2020 22:23

I know someone who was given a 12 month prison sentence for faking DNA results.

Smallsteps88 · 29/10/2020 22:27

@notdawn

This is what happens out of wedlock I’m afraid.
Hmm

No, it isn’t, you ignorant snob.

notdawn · 29/10/2020 22:28

@Smallsteps88

[quote notdawn]
This is what happens out of wedlock I’m afraid.

Hmm

No, it isn’t, you ignorant snob.[/quote]
I obviously don’t mean all the time.

Smallsteps88 · 29/10/2020 22:30

You obviously haven’t a clue what you’re on about. That’s the only thing that’s obvious. Grin

notdawn · 29/10/2020 22:31

Plenty of research out there that suggests otherwise I’m afraid.

Smallsteps88 · 29/10/2020 22:31

Marriage has nothing to do with it. People have lied about their dcs paternity within marriages too.

Smallsteps88 · 29/10/2020 22:32

Plenty of research that suggests women who have babies out of wedlock fake DNA tests? Grin on yer bike pet.

RachelOrgan73 · 29/10/2020 22:32

@notdawn

This is what happens out of wedlock I’m afraid.
I am sure a wedding ring would have made all the difference in this case.
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thelake · 29/10/2020 22:33

Is he on the birth certificate?
What does she gain by making out he isn't the dad?
Would he take an interest and pay maintenance if proven?
Why did they split up?

thelake · 29/10/2020 22:34

Would reverse psychology work on her. She sounds very controlling. If dad just says, fine. The baby is mine but you won't prove it so I will walk away. Then leave well alone.

notdawn · 29/10/2020 22:35

@Smallsteps88

Marriage has nothing to do with it. People have lied about their dcs paternity within marriages too.
I mean more specifically children do better in married families. But by all means carry on with the condescending names.
Smallsteps88 · 29/10/2020 22:35

I’m guessing she is trying to prevent contact happening by saying he isn’t the dad.

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