Mother Faked DNA Test

[RachelOrgan73]

So sorry for the long post and not sure i have put this in the right place, but could really do with some help. I will try to keep it as succinct as possible.

Boy meets girl who has 2 children from previous relationship. Boy moves in, Girl gets pregnant, Boy and Girl live happily for a very short while, She becomes quite controlling and ties to alienate him from his family. One afternoon he and his baby daughter go to spend time with his family and she refuses to come. She calls the police and claims that her eldest daughter told her that he had hit the baby. Of course, this was not true and the police could see this. They split up and boy goes to court and wins shared custody.
2 weeks past of 50/50 custody and out of the blue he receives in the post a letter saying she has done a DNA on another man and Man B is the Father and not Man A. Never seeing daughter again. The results look odd so it goes back to court who order a legal DNA test. When these results come back the identifying photograph has the child that was swabbed wrapped tightly in a blanket and a dummy in her mouth. The court agreed that there was no way of seeing that the child tested was in fact the correct child.
2nd DNA test ordered. Results come back. This time, Child has thick headband on and is turned at an angle and fast asleep, and although not clear to the court, clear to Boy that this child is the Girls Middle Daughter and not the baby.
Court Order a third DNA to be conducted at a Doctors Surgery. Doctor has never seen the chid before so blindly does the test and the results come back with a very clear photo of the MIDDLE daughter not the baby. This time the Father of the middle daughter confirms that the child in the photograph is his own and not the baby.
Back to court. She doesnt turn up. ANOTHER DNA ordered,. This time it is for tomorrow and she must arrive with all three children and this time the Father(?) is allowed to be present. I dont think she is going to turn up as she knows that the game is up. So what happens now?
It has been nearly a year since he last saw his daughter and this is destroying him.
Any advice?

@cabbageking

Court ordered DNA only use specified providers who are required to verify the ID of all parties. Did the judge not recommend any action 're the service provider?

Yes. They have stipulated the provider at all times. The process itself has been correct, just presenting the wrong child. The DNA Sampler has came to her house twice and of course he wouldn't know if he is told “this is the one you need to test” he just believed her. As a young child, she has no Id as such except her Mothers word.

@sergeilavrov

Hi OP. I’m US trained and this isn’t my area, but wanted to give you the insight I have until a specialist comes along. Paternity fraud is a civil issue in the U.K., and those cases that have been proceeded civilly have been with regard to a man investing money/time into a child he was informed by a fraudulent DNA test were his own. To gain compensation for the year he has missed out would mean a costly test case, something from your OP it seems he would not pursue.

Lying in a custody case is not generally considered as contempt of court or perjury because of the nature of these cases. I suspect that when eventually the DNA test is administered correctly (assuming he is indeed the father), she is unlikely to face a penalty as it will be put down to a chain of errors or not in the interest of the children.

It may however influence the custody arrangement settled upon, because being so willing to take the child away may suggest the mother poses a risk to the stability of any such arrangement and she may find he gets majority custody of the children are viewed as likely to be harmed by similar lies in the future. The judge will want stability for the children, and will make decisions based on their welfare, not just the behaviour of both parents. The key to him getting better custody will be making a case of physical and emotional parental alienation. He needs a good solicitor.

I’d be cautious about the imprisonment threat: the father needs to demonstrate he wants what is best for the children, and given there is no alternate parent currently, it may be viewed a little poorly that he is willing to put the children in that position. I’m not justifying that, but judges make decisions based on the children’s welfare. Someone practicing in the U.K. will be more familiar with this element.

Thank you. There IS an alternate parent. Him and the Father of her other two children. If it does turn out that he is her Father he will be seeking full residency. He is mindful of the Sibling relationship there too and the Father of the elder two is now also pursuing a shared custody arrangement and they have agreed that they will facilitate a relationship to maintain that close bond.

However, having said that, I do totally understand what you are saying.

Just shocking that got to a 4th test and there has been nothing seemingly done to enforce this especially with suspected mischief. In America if a man does not attend a court mandated dna test then he is presumed the father, by this point with her playing silly court should just do the same. But UK different.

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If she would be held in custody for not showing up to a DNA test, there is not yet proof that there is an alternate parent for the child in question - that’s precisely what the testing is for. The child would not be given to the man petitioning for the restoration of parental responsibility until a definitive result is received, and so a neutral party like social services would step in.

I assume she is also submitting her DNA, which prevents her using a third party’s child. Again, I hope someone who practices this area in the U.K. is along soon.

Is there any update OP? How’s everything going?

Ask your barrister about offences of her attempting to pervert the course of justice

How are you OP ? any resolution 🌺

@RachelOrgan73
Anything resolved yet?

Ah - so sorry for the delay in updating. Things have been a bit hectic.

So - She failed to turn up for the DNA test so back to court for an enforcement order, which was granted on the basis that if she failed to turn up to the next one she would be arrested.

Another appointment was made and she DID turn up with the correct child. She looked very nervous and didnt want my nephew in the same room, but the Dr’s were awesome and managed it really well.

A long wait of over a week for the results. And Bingo. He IS the Father. There was a court date of the end of January but of course Nephew was keen to see his Daughter asap. Solicitor wrote to her and asked for the Shared Custody arrangement to be reinstated ahead of the hearing and she replied that he could collect her from her Mothers two days later. But no mention of where or when he should return her, despite asking twice by letter.

Anyway. He collected her as arranged, She opened the door, shoved her at him like a bag of rubbish and slammed the door. Child was quite distressed but got her quickly settled, but still didnt know what the future arrangements were.

Next day, she writes to him saying that she was giving up her rights and didnt want her back!!! Can you believe it. She shoved that child at him with nothing other than the nappy and clothes she was wearing knowing that she wasnt going to see her again. Unbelievable.

An urgent court hearing happened this week, and she DID turn up to that. She reiterated that she didnt want her and Nephew got a Living With Order. But she literally gets to just walk away scott-free after everything she did. Its disgusting, but I suppose we should be satisfied that it all turned out in the end but Lord knows what we are going to say to her when she is old enough to ask where her Mumm is. :-(

Wow that is awful. But is the best thing that could happened to the little girl.

OP.... this is awful... however..

CONGRATULATIONS for the child and your nephew

HE stayed the course.. he did everything through the right channels and he has his child.. the child will be happy and will have a good life with you all...

I'm so happy for the child and your nephew.. Merry Christmas to you all

Absolutely fantastic Christmas for you all!!

That's fantastic! Disgusting behaviour from the mother, truly shocking. Have a lovely Christmas together.

This has to be the best Christmas Wish ever to come true OP

That is so sad. Poor poor little girl.

@cookiecuttercreamandbutter

That is so sad. Poor poor little girl.

with a lot of love support and affection from the Father and his family that fought tooth and nail for her, I'm sure she'll be okay...

Thank you so much everyone. Absolutely. We have already identified behaviour in her that points towards neglect. 20 months old but not yet forming words, but able to insist on wiping her own hands and face after eating, refusing to put a cup down without a coaster, gets her changing mat and lies down on it when she needs changing!!!!! Bizarre behaviour. But we have vowed to not speak ill of her Mother in front of her and realise that telling her that her Mother didnt want her can only have a negative effect, so are actively looking for ways to word things in such a way so as not to have a lasting “unwanted” feeling.
This child could not be wanted and loved more. We are so happy to have her back in our lives and her Father, well, I cant even begin to explain the joy he feels,. I have watched that man break, and to see him smile with his Daughter has made this shit year a hell of a lot better.

Don't build up a story of neglect that is bigger than it needs to be, I understand emotions are running high.

Have a psychologist evaluate her. Or a play therapist if that's impossible. Don't romanticise this. It doesn't help her in the long term. She may be suffering from neglect. She may not be. They are all funny little people at that age.

How heartbreaking!! That poor child! How could she just shove her away and never want to see her again? The poor child must have been so scared and traumatised. Hopefully she will feel secure with her father and have lots of help to heal.

@Smallsteps88

How heartbreaking!! That poor child! How could she just shove her away and never want to see her again? The poor child must have been so scared and traumatised. Hopefully she will feel secure with her father and have lots of help to heal.

Oh we would never let her know even if it were proved she had been neglected. These are just our observations of her behaviours that appear unusual for a child her age. What we DO know is that the 10 months that we were not a part of her life are insignificant now. What matters now is that we give her the love and devotion she deserves. I promise you this - but more important I promise my darling Great Neice,: We cried, we fought, we sobbed and we fought harder. You are LOVED and no harm will come to you that any member of this Family can prevent! Thank you everyone. Merry Christmas.

Good on you OP... you know what your doing ..wonderful times ahead..

My heart breaks for this little girl. I'm glad she's now with family that will do what's in her best interests. As for her mother...no words.