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Drugs test at work this morning

291 replies

LoliC90 · 30/03/2018 13:22

If you have smoked cannabis within the past week could this show up if tested.

When I was finished my nightshift this morning I was asked to go for a random drugs test where I had to provide a sample of my urine.

Worried I could lose my job now.

OP posts:
LoliC90 · 30/03/2018 14:48

Yes I really have got myself in to a stupid predicament.

I am bricking it at what could happen. I should really be in bed after a 12 hour shift though dont think I would get any sleep at all

OP posts:
LipstickHandbagCoffee · 30/03/2018 14:49

Some really shocking “advice” on this thread.being in proximity of someone smoking weed wont produce a +ve test

CuriousaboutSamphire · 30/03/2018 14:49

Again no, don't claim it was passive smoking

I found this, it is more or les what DHs bundle of info says

A study published in the Journal of Analytical Toxicology was designed to see if 9-carboxy-THC was detectable after subjects had been exposed to passive, or second-hand smoke. During the study, 6 experienced stoners were sealed in a chamber for an hour with drug-free participants in alternating order where they would smoke a marijuana cigarette containing a strong strain of cannabis. The drug-free subjects were then required to pee into a cup 13 times over the next 34 hours.
And the results? Well, it turns out you probably can still enjoy the company of your hot-boxing friends without fearing the loss of your job. The researchers found the levels in the majority of participants would not have been detectable. There was one participant who had a detectable reading of 50 nanograms per milliliter, however, this test was taken only 4 to 6 hours after exposure had occurred. Also, when the chamber was ventilated, detectable levels were lower as the passive smoke was less concentrated.
The authors of this study stated in conclusion, “These results demonstrate that extreme cannabis smoke exposure can produce positive urine tests at commonly utilized cutoff concentrations. However, positive tests are likely to be rare, limited to the hours immediately post-exposure, and occur only under environmental circumstances where exposure is obvious”.

www.zativo.com/blog/181-can-you-fail-drug-test-second-hand-smoke

Raven88 · 30/03/2018 14:49

@StealthPolarBear I've been a carer/support worker for 6 years and I've never been drugs tested. I've never done drugs before and I don't spend time with people who do.

StealthPolarBear · 30/03/2018 14:50

Sorry. I'm no help and just ranting. Presume the fantastic employment terms and conditions and the wonderful pension make th e responsibility all worth it

LipstickHandbagCoffee · 30/03/2018 14:51

Police won’t attend for an HCA smoking cannabis
Whereas Trained staff you could be reported to your regulatory body

StealthPolarBear · 30/03/2018 14:51

Good to hear raven. Might just be some employers then

Lucked · 30/03/2018 14:52

I’m not sure, if it was a small amount, how they could prove it wasn’t through passive smoking so they might have a higher than zero threshold.

TheShaniaTwainExperience · 30/03/2018 14:53

Police won’t care. Don’t worry about that op.

Bluntness100 · 30/03/2018 14:56

When do you get the results op?

As for random testing, im in a well paid proffesional role. I'm subject to it, but right now it would only be enabled if I behaved in a way that alerted concern. In this position it's not required otherwise, but I have had previous positions with my company where it was required periodically as it was required to show my judgement was not impaired. It's also in my contract of employment.

I've not heard of a care assistant being tested routinely though.

Sprinklesinmyelbow · 30/03/2018 14:56

Pmsl at “the actual police” wtf do you think they’re going to do about a spliff smokes last week? Dur

eggcellent · 30/03/2018 14:56

It's 5-8 days if you genuinely did only smoke once. Depends on your metabolic rate and how much fluid you drink. If you didn't smoke much, drank a lot of water this week and have a high metabolic rate you may be fine.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 30/03/2018 14:57

I’m not sure, if it was a small amount, how they could prove it wasn’t through passive smoking so they might have a higher than zero threshold. As far as I know because science

There have been quite a few legal, controlled studies on passive smoking and cannabis. There have to have been, or the tests would be useless! A quick Google, even without Google Scholar, throws up quite a few hits (pardon the pun Smile)

LipstickHandbagCoffee · 30/03/2018 14:57

Lucked passive smoking will not trigger a +ve test because it’s not the same as ingesting cannabis
When you smoke,you inhale into lungs,and the cannabis directly into your body and affects cognition,behaviour,mood
Proximity to cannabis smokers it’s just not the same

StealthPolarBear · 30/03/2018 14:58

Yes agree bluntness. Fine for it to be used if there are actual concerns.
Sprinkles don't.

Camiila · 30/03/2018 14:58

I’m not sure, if it was a small amount, how they could prove it wasn’t through passive smoking so they might have a higher than zero threshold.

because passive smoking does not lead to a positive test

ILostItInTheEarlyNineties · 30/03/2018 14:58

I can't help thinking posters on here are enjoying sticking the boot in here, suggesting OP should resign, speculating that the police will be informed (they won't) and reprimanding the OP.

It's punishment enough that OP is going to spend the next week torturing herself over this and frightened she may lose her job.

I would wait for the results. The urine test is basic, a few tokes on a joint almost a week ago may not show.
If the result is positive, it will show as traces of cannabis. It's possible you will be given a warning and not sacked, particularly if you explain it was a one off after a few drinks at a party.

As pps have said, it's difficult to find reliable hardworking careworkers that want to stay in the job. It will work in your favour if you have an excellent track record so far.

Don't panic. You won't get a criminal record and will able to find work elsewhere if the worst happens and your contract is terminated.

AJPTaylor · 30/03/2018 14:59

i would find out pronto if you will be sacked of it is positive and consider resigning first.

Camiila · 30/03/2018 15:00

Police won’t care. Don’t worry about that op. no, they won't care, just issue a swift caution and move on... its nothing to them, its a criminal record for drugs for the OP

x2boys · 30/03/2018 15:01

It might do up it might not unfortunately cannabis does seem to show up a lot longer than other drugs when I was a mental health nurse we sometimes had to drug test patients and often cannabis would show up as weakly positive if it was a one off you might be lucky ? Dh works for a warehouse for a large well known supermarket they do random drug tests too unfortunately his friend was called to do one he refused as he regularly smoked cannabis and was allowed to resign

Sprinklesinmyelbow · 30/03/2018 15:02

“Today 15:00 Camiila

Police won’t care. Don’t worry about that op. no, they won't care, just issue a swift caution and move on... its nothing to them, its a criminal record for drugs for the OP”

A caution for what? Do you know anything about the police or law?!

Bluntness100 · 30/03/2018 15:02

Stealth, I think that's what I'm getting at, that as she was the only one tested there may have been concerns that caused them to do it. It's clearly not something they do often, so I wonder why they'd pick just one person and do it.

If she only smoked a little last sat, she may be fine, but if there is more to this she hasn't said it may be what's caused them to test because something in her behaviour concerned them.

TheShaniaTwainExperience · 30/03/2018 15:03

No they won’t camiilla. Stop stirring shit.

LipstickHandbagCoffee · 30/03/2018 15:04

Camilla a caution shows up on enhanced dbs.as care worker op will be subject to DBS
In jobs that require a DBS a caution will show up,and is potentially a big deal

ILostItInTheEarlyNineties · 30/03/2018 15:04

I'm confused about the passive smoking. That could stand up as an explanation. If someone is blowing it in your face for example.
It's possible to get pretty high from a blow back

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