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Drugs test at work this morning

291 replies

LoliC90 · 30/03/2018 13:22

If you have smoked cannabis within the past week could this show up if tested.

When I was finished my nightshift this morning I was asked to go for a random drugs test where I had to provide a sample of my urine.

Worried I could lose my job now.

OP posts:
LipstickHandbagCoffee · 30/03/2018 21:42

Again you’re making this up on the hoof

DaisyGiveMeYourAnswerDoo · 30/03/2018 21:46

Again you’re making this up on the hoof

What am I making up? 🤣 have you ever worked in care? If not, you don't understand the absolute liabilities which are having to be hired because the need is so great, and the people willing to do it are so few. One of my friends recruits in the area, and I absolutely believe she'd hire somebody who had smoked a joint at the weekend not having work for a few days and got sacked for it. As a care worker, not as a pilot or a surgeon.

Dapplegrey · 30/03/2018 21:50

So what happens if someone tests positive for opioids and they are taking it legitimately as they've been prescribed codeine?

Cheeseislife · 30/03/2018 21:52

Camiila, what really can be dangerous is when you talk utter shit to people on the internet in an authoratitive tone so they may be misled into believing you. Two days on the trot I've seen you spouting nonsense, how about have the rest of the weekend off and do everyone a favour

bluejelly · 30/03/2018 21:58

OP I'm so sorry you are having to have a drugs test. Seems completely OTT. Personally as someone who has used carers for years I wouldn't give a damn that you smoked cannabis on a Saturday night whilst not at work. What matters is that you are caring, compassionate and professional when you are at work.
Sorry you are having to go through this Thanks

Farmerswife36 · 30/03/2018 22:01

Iv never ever once smoked or touched cannabis but I can guarantee she won't be unsafe to work from taking a few drags nearly a week ago . Fucking hell its tyoucak of mumsnet to over react and put the frightened up people ! I work in the NHS and have never ever heard of random drug testing ? Are you sure it's legal what they are doing op ?? I doubt it would still be in your urine now . Blood maybe but urine defo not

Farmerswife36 · 30/03/2018 22:02

Cheese is talking sense ! Ignore the idiots spouting shit

Bluntness100 · 30/03/2018 22:09

Gilly if his house was raided there is much much more to it. Even if your caught with some on you the police can use discretion and just give a warning which does not go on record, or issue a fine. As such something much bigger with your guy.

And he would have been convicted for,possession and probably more. He will not have been convicted for,smoking it and neither will the op. It's really wrong to indicate she should resign based on, a totally different thing, for starters smoking isn't even a crime.

Bluntness100 · 30/03/2018 22:13

Oh and daisy is right, my daughter walked into the job, no qualifications, just needed to work, doing a degree in another field, said she could handle bodily fluids and was recruited, they are incredibly short in this sector, it's a very hard job for very,very low pay.

I also believe if the op was fired for this she'd find other work quickly.

10pmixupandafreddo · 30/03/2018 22:19

I'm sure a warning does go on record . Infact I know it does as if it's a written and signed warning it stays on your record for years

Bluntness100 · 30/03/2018 22:22

No that's a caution, a warning doesn't go on record. A caution does. They are two very different things.

10pmixupandafreddo · 30/03/2018 22:27

Oh so if you get caught doing something you should not and the police say il let you off with a verbal warning and you don't sign any paperwork then that won't show up in a dbs check ? I was always told that warnings will show up for minimum of six years ?

LipstickHandbagCoffee · 30/03/2018 22:28

a warning issued to that job,that employer. No national record
A caution is issued by police and will show up on enhanced DBS

LipstickHandbagCoffee · 30/03/2018 22:44

Oh I thought we were talking final warning from her employer showing up
Police warning (youth caution) May show on DBS depends on offence and if offence is eligible to be filtered out

Bluntness100 · 30/03/2018 22:48

A warning issued by police results in no criminal record and,will not show up on a dbs Check. A caution results in both.

Honestly google it instead of hijacking the thread.

ForkIt · 30/03/2018 22:52

I’m genuinely surprised they have drug tests for care workers, obviously anyone presenting under the influence should be readily sacked, but causal cannabis use in your spare time? If they had to test I would have thought morning breathalyser tests on a Monday morning would have more use. I can’t see it’s imperative a company controls their staff outside work, as long as there’s no impact in work or the job isn’t inherently unsuitable for any drug use.

The teaching profession would have been quite depleted had they had this

LipstickHandbagCoffee · 30/03/2018 22:52

Youth caution (final warning) Might show on enhanced DBS depend on offence,and if it filtered out

sashh · 31/03/2018 06:24

CuriousaboutSamphire

That was actually the point I was making, it will show the OP isn't a habitual user.

80

Actually I have never had even a single puff of cannabis. Also the cannabis smoked by friends is grown a)organically in Wales or b) a bedroom windowsill.

ivykaty44 · 31/03/2018 06:34

Tell them you think it’s a false positive and demand a retest, if it comes back positive

CuriousaboutSamphire · 31/03/2018 07:55

Sashh Apologies, I obviously totally misunderstood. I am sorry I lumped your post in with the daft scaremongerers!

Dapplegrey The testers ask if you have been taking any drugs. That is when you tell them about painkillers or any prescription drugs. DH has also 'confessed' to having taken co-codamol for bruising he got after a formally reported 'near miss'. The drugs tester was very testy about that but had to note the positive test as being explained by reported use of painkillers.

stillvicarinatutu · 31/03/2018 08:08

Ivy Katy they'll just use the same sample.

But I can categorically say with absolute certainty that the police won't even be informed. You won't get a caution or anything like ! The police will not be interested. Testing positive isn't an offence.

TheUser420 · 31/03/2018 12:03

Ivy Katy they'll just use the same sample.

So no real science involved then, eh ? If that's the level of evidence required they may as well have asked the local clairvoyant what their spirit guide told them ... (looks like I missed a cowboy trade I could have raked it in from there ...)

If they were serious about drug testing (which they clearly aren't) they'd have matched the police procedure for dealing with suspected drug drivers, and started with a mouth swab. In the event that was positive they would proceed to a blood sample. Or indeed, if it was negative (but let's not dwell on that). But, as noted upthread, such tests cost money.

Call me cynical, or call me someone that's worked in a lot of places, but if I had a budget of fuck all, and I wanted to pretend I was enforcing a (I bet the OPs firm is ultimately run by a US company - they are obsessed with drugs to an unhealthy degree) workplace drugs policy, then I would conduct a urine sample pantomime, and wait for the inevitable 5% to raise their own hand for the chop.

Incidentally was there any warning before they pulled to you one side that they would be conducting a random test ? (You need to look deep into your contract to make sure they followed their own guidelines).

If the OP is still worried, then they should consider looking elsewhere for advice ... there's a whole UK community out there with hundreds of thousands of person-hours of experience in dealing with these things.

creamcheeseandlox · 31/03/2018 12:25

To the poster up thread who said random drug testing isn't a thing In services like the NHS. I would be surprised if it wasn't. I work for the police and we are told that any moment of any work day we could be asked for a urine sample for a random drug test. I know someone who got sacked for testing positive for class A.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 31/03/2018 12:32

Crikey! That was an erm, interesting take on OPs situation!

Possibly even more scary than any previous posts!

CuriousaboutSamphire · 31/03/2018 12:33

Sorry, that wasn't aimed at you creamcheese but the weirdness of the post above yours Smile