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Antisemitism

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bubbleandsqueak1976 · 25/03/2024 19:22

I read the posts on here with interest and often the subject of anti semitism comes up. I was brought up in a town in the South East. My mum gave me a book about Anne Frank when I was around 8 and I can remember asking ' what is a Jew?' as I had never met one. When I was about 14 a girl from northern Israel came to my school and I was asked to befriend her and help her settle in. I can remember being fascinated about her life in a Kibbutz and she used to show me
Hebrew writing. I don't recall ever hearing anything anti semitic about her or her brother as the only two Jewish kids - to my knowledge in the school. I also remember in my twenties encountering a group of lads from North London - white something and them having an absolute hatred for Jewish people. I can remember feeling utterly shocked as I'd never heard anti Jewish speak prior to this. Reading some of the recent posts on here it has made me wonder wherever there are pockets in the Uk with Jewish communities that experience antisemitism where the rest of the UK it does not occur as people simply have never met a Jewish person just their life- to their knowledge.Where I live I have only met 4 Jewish people in the Uk in my life and I am 47. The most Jewish people I have met were in Israel when I visited in 2000.

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Magnahot · 11/08/2025 15:59

EllaDisenchanted · 06/08/2025 14:37

https://x.com/l3v1at4an/status/1952881226232029206
spraying water at religious Jews (including kids). Jolly video set to hava nagila.

I think this thread should be on the main board, not the Jewish board. The Jewish community already know about the rise in antisemitism worldwide. Tracking this on our little hidden corner of mumsnet doesn't raise awareness of the problem more widely.

It used to be though

But then it all got horrible and I believe many of the posters on this very thread actually requested a separate board

stomachamelon · 11/08/2025 17:50

@EllaDisenchanted i get your point but I am concerned how it will be perceived or taken.

EllaDisenchanted · 11/08/2025 18:17

no I don’t disagree with you. Like I said earlier , if I started one on the main board, there would likely be a pile on// the usual minimisation/deflection (criticising Israel doesn’t equal antisemitism, it’s Israel/netanyahus fault/ etc).
I don’t know, I just felt a bit like I’m watching this happen and I’m writing about it and tracking it on a board for people who know what’s going on, when it’s an issue that needs widespread attention imo.
@magnahot I believe I joined in asking for a separate board. I don’t regret that- I think the Jewish board is a safe space for Jews, to discuss things that may otherwise get attacked when posted on the main board. It’s just this one issue that I think is not really (or shouldn’t really be) just a problem for Jews. But as I said, it’s also likely pointless putting it on the main board 🤷‍♀️

Britneyfan · 12/08/2025 01:58

@EllaDisenchanted please do keep writing about it and tracking it on here plus/minus elsewhere, it’s a shame there is likely to be a pile-on elsewhere if shares more widely (but sadly I agree that could well be the case). But non-Jewish people like myself who have some sympathy with and solidarity with you guys (I’m Christian and have a lot of family friends who have lived in Israel or spent significant time there learning Hebrew etc, plus I do believe the Jews are God’s chosen people) who are lurking here to get a bit of balance after being on the largely pro-Palestinian CITME boards will find it. I agree it’s good for non-Jews to be aware of what’s happening.

I hadn’t come across any of these recent antisemitism stories at all by the way (except for the Jewish schoolchildren on a plane one as it was discussed on the CITME board) and I am genuinely horrified. The videos you shared here are shocking to me. I’m gobsmacked by those young people saying the Jews “must have done something” to deserve the Holocaust basically!! And what on earth was Huda thinking saying what she did?! (I agree it’s not much of/any of an apology either). It’s absolutely wild that she thought this was ok to say on her social media platforms. I will be boycotting her products and writing to Boots to add my voice that her products should not be sold when she has these really extreme hateful views. I can’t believe I only found out about it here. Though I do mainly read the Guardian!

I remember being so shocked as a child when I learned about the Holocaust, and I really didn’t think I’d ever see the sort of antisemitic views that prevailed in the lead-up to World War 2 persisting/increasing in this day and age. We have so few Jews in the U.K. so it seems so odd to me that it’s an issue at all. In fact I had never even met a Jew (to my knowledge) until I was living and working in London in my 30s. Other than a childhood friend in N Ireland where I grew up, who told me she was Jewish but to keep it very quiet when I kept going on about how cool her very typically Jewish (but unusual to me) surname was and asking her where it came from 🤦‍♀️ In my defence I was only about 8 at the time!

PS us non-Jews would 100 percent struggle to spot an Orthodox Jewish woman by themselves! I’m a doctor and used to work in an east London hospital with a significant local Hasidic Jewish population. And it was easy to spot the men (though I did have to ask a colleague when I started there - what’s with all the men wearing long black coats and top hats?! 🤣🤣) but it took me a ridiculously looooong time to realise that the women were all wearing wigs (again I ended up saying to a colleague wait do Jewish women all have to have the exact same hairstyle and colour or something?! 🤣🤣).

EllaDisenchanted · 12/08/2025 10:13

@Britneyfan thank you 🙏 your support is appreciated ❤️
watch out for hair with a hairband that fully covers the front, or only shows a bit of hair; that’s often a bandfall wig. More comfortable than a full wig, and less noticeable!

more x shenanigans
x.com/marinamedvin/status/1954879806442479963?s=46

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EllaDisenchanted · 12/08/2025 10:24

Plus Shani louk z”l parody accounts 🤮
https://x.com/shani_louk69/status/1947840125167407360?s=46 - link if anyone wants to join me in reporting it.

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Voxon · 12/08/2025 12:52

A little off topic, but I want to say goodbye to the Jewish Mumsnetters and to everyone here who genuinely stands against antisemitism. You’re fighting an incredibly difficult battle against a deep-rooted poison, and I truly admire your courage and persistence.

I’ve decided to delete my account today because the CITME boards have become saturated with people fixated on stirring hatred against one country and one people and i find it frankly disturbing.

I'm torn between understanding people should be able to discuss the war and empathise with the suffering, and the obvious reality that these threads are really not about that. They are full of constant lying, gaslighting, denial of facts, rewriting history, relentless demonisation and constant, obvious antisemitism and I find that profoundly depressing.

I’ve come to the conclusion that antisemitism functions like a cult. It’s so pervasive, so irrational, and so addictive that it has driven millions to completely lose their grip on reason just as it did only 80 years ago and I feel like I'm watching a very sad history repeat itself.

Today was the final straw. I pointed out the deep injustice of Jews being banned due to threat of violence from praying at their most sacred site, the Temple Mount. My post was deleted.

I cant in good conscience continue posting or being part of a discussion forum that silences people for speaking out against religious opression of minorities to access their sacred sites. It's just not morally acceptable to me.

Having spent my life fighting injustice and inequality I find myself in the bizarre situation where I've realised society simply won't allow these things to be defended for Jews. I find it bewildering that the entire world isn't speaking out, but they're not and it's caused me to lose respect, faith and support for so many people, brands, organisations and systems that I naively thought believed in fairness for everybody.

So I'm outta here, but I will do whatever I can in my daily life to support what is right, honest, true and fair.

I wish you all the best - and to the Jewish people, I’m so sorry the world is failing you so spectacularly, yet again. I believe one day people will catch up and be sincerely sorry for it, but right now, it’s utterly exhausting and really ugly to watch.

I have so much empathy for you- you deserve so much better.

Towerofsong · 12/08/2025 18:11

EllaDisenchanted · 12/08/2025 10:24

Plus Shani louk z”l parody accounts 🤮
https://x.com/shani_louk69/status/1947840125167407360?s=46 - link if anyone wants to join me in reporting it.

The trouble is the social media acceptability rules are written in such a way that basically anything seems to go as long as it isn't a direct personal threat of violence. It's just sickening.

I have reported countless Facebook posts and they never, ever get removed.

EllaDisenchanted · 12/08/2025 18:37

Voxon · 12/08/2025 12:52

A little off topic, but I want to say goodbye to the Jewish Mumsnetters and to everyone here who genuinely stands against antisemitism. You’re fighting an incredibly difficult battle against a deep-rooted poison, and I truly admire your courage and persistence.

I’ve decided to delete my account today because the CITME boards have become saturated with people fixated on stirring hatred against one country and one people and i find it frankly disturbing.

I'm torn between understanding people should be able to discuss the war and empathise with the suffering, and the obvious reality that these threads are really not about that. They are full of constant lying, gaslighting, denial of facts, rewriting history, relentless demonisation and constant, obvious antisemitism and I find that profoundly depressing.

I’ve come to the conclusion that antisemitism functions like a cult. It’s so pervasive, so irrational, and so addictive that it has driven millions to completely lose their grip on reason just as it did only 80 years ago and I feel like I'm watching a very sad history repeat itself.

Today was the final straw. I pointed out the deep injustice of Jews being banned due to threat of violence from praying at their most sacred site, the Temple Mount. My post was deleted.

I cant in good conscience continue posting or being part of a discussion forum that silences people for speaking out against religious opression of minorities to access their sacred sites. It's just not morally acceptable to me.

Having spent my life fighting injustice and inequality I find myself in the bizarre situation where I've realised society simply won't allow these things to be defended for Jews. I find it bewildering that the entire world isn't speaking out, but they're not and it's caused me to lose respect, faith and support for so many people, brands, organisations and systems that I naively thought believed in fairness for everybody.

So I'm outta here, but I will do whatever I can in my daily life to support what is right, honest, true and fair.

I wish you all the best - and to the Jewish people, I’m so sorry the world is failing you so spectacularly, yet again. I believe one day people will catch up and be sincerely sorry for it, but right now, it’s utterly exhausting and really ugly to watch.

I have so much empathy for you- you deserve so much better.

Thank you @Voxon . I don’t know if you’ll be on again to read this, but I’ve appreciated your posts so much 🙏

EllaDisenchanted · 12/08/2025 18:39

Towerofsong · 12/08/2025 18:11

The trouble is the social media acceptability rules are written in such a way that basically anything seems to go as long as it isn't a direct personal threat of violence. It's just sickening.

I have reported countless Facebook posts and they never, ever get removed.

I don’t usually get a positive response from x, but I do think over time when enough people report some of them do eventually get taken down. The proliferation of them means though that taking one down is a drop in the ocean. The sheer number of sickeningly blatantly antisemitic comments I’ve seen (which don’t even relate to Israel or Palestine) should be unbelievable. I’d post screenshots here but I’d be doing it all day and it’s nauseating

SharonEllis · 12/08/2025 19:15

Voxon · 12/08/2025 12:52

A little off topic, but I want to say goodbye to the Jewish Mumsnetters and to everyone here who genuinely stands against antisemitism. You’re fighting an incredibly difficult battle against a deep-rooted poison, and I truly admire your courage and persistence.

I’ve decided to delete my account today because the CITME boards have become saturated with people fixated on stirring hatred against one country and one people and i find it frankly disturbing.

I'm torn between understanding people should be able to discuss the war and empathise with the suffering, and the obvious reality that these threads are really not about that. They are full of constant lying, gaslighting, denial of facts, rewriting history, relentless demonisation and constant, obvious antisemitism and I find that profoundly depressing.

I’ve come to the conclusion that antisemitism functions like a cult. It’s so pervasive, so irrational, and so addictive that it has driven millions to completely lose their grip on reason just as it did only 80 years ago and I feel like I'm watching a very sad history repeat itself.

Today was the final straw. I pointed out the deep injustice of Jews being banned due to threat of violence from praying at their most sacred site, the Temple Mount. My post was deleted.

I cant in good conscience continue posting or being part of a discussion forum that silences people for speaking out against religious opression of minorities to access their sacred sites. It's just not morally acceptable to me.

Having spent my life fighting injustice and inequality I find myself in the bizarre situation where I've realised society simply won't allow these things to be defended for Jews. I find it bewildering that the entire world isn't speaking out, but they're not and it's caused me to lose respect, faith and support for so many people, brands, organisations and systems that I naively thought believed in fairness for everybody.

So I'm outta here, but I will do whatever I can in my daily life to support what is right, honest, true and fair.

I wish you all the best - and to the Jewish people, I’m so sorry the world is failing you so spectacularly, yet again. I believe one day people will catch up and be sincerely sorry for it, but right now, it’s utterly exhausting and really ugly to watch.

I have so much empathy for you- you deserve so much better.

Thank you so much, I'm not Jewish but you have been a great ally on MN and I'm sorry to see you go.

Diamond82 · 12/08/2025 19:59

EllaDisenchanted · 10/08/2025 20:10

Do you think there’s any point starting a thread on a main board though? Or will it just descend into a pile on and collapse?

I didn’t realise it had been on the main board before being moved to Jewish Mumsnetters. I don’t know if it’s worth making another one because it’s needed but will probably become very unpleasant quite quickly. It’s a lose lose situation.

Diamond82 · 12/08/2025 20:09

I really appreciate the messages of support we’ve had today. It means a lot! I’m glad to hear that others have written or will write to Boots regarding Huda. We can only hope they eventually start to take notice.

stomachamelon · 12/08/2025 22:42

@EllaDisenchanted someone has been arrested for the serious assault of a Jewish man in front of his three children in Montreal. He has been remanded due to the seriousness of the events/

EllaDisenchanted · 12/08/2025 22:42

stomachamelon · 12/08/2025 22:42

@EllaDisenchanted someone has been arrested for the serious assault of a Jewish man in front of his three children in Montreal. He has been remanded due to the seriousness of the events/

Thank you for updating

EllaDisenchanted · 13/08/2025 17:24

I. Don’t. Have. Words.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/toronto-film-fest-nixes-oct-7-doc-screening-said-to-cite-hamas-ownership-of-massacre-clips/amp/

Hen Mazzig:
“BREAKING: The Toronto International Film Festival has pulled an October 7 documentary over alleged “Hamas copyright” claims.

TIFF removed The Road Between Us: The Ultimate Rescue, which tells the story of Noam Tibon, who saved his two granddaughters while surrounded by Hamas terrorists at the Nova music festival.

The festival claimed the film used Nir Oz massacre footage “owned” by Hamas and that the filmmakers lacked “legal clearance” to use images Hamas itself posted on October 7.

The real reason, however, may not have been legal risk at all, but rather a desire to avoid “Free Palestine” protests.

By granting Hamas legal legitimacy and silencing the truth of October 7, TIFF chose cowardice.

Despicable.”

https://x.com/henmazzig/status/1955565360154906907?s=46

the massacre they live streamed to the world.

this is infuriating!!!!!!!!!!!
even if it’s because they are scared of protestors (they shouldn’t be, it’s a story of a grandfathers heroic rescue of his granddaughters on Oct 7th, no hate) then their cover excuse of not having copyright from Hamas is fucking disgusting 🤮 how could they even for a second think that would be a good excuse?!?!?

Hamas fucking live-streamed it to the world 🤬🤬🤬 they were proud of themselves!!!!!!

https://x.com/henmazzig/status/1955565360154906907?s=46

stomachamelon · 14/08/2025 22:00

@EllaDisenchantedthat truly beggars belief.

EllaDisenchanted · 15/08/2025 12:16

Hen Mazzig on x
“In 2006, Ilan Halimi, a 23-year-old French Jewish man, was kidnapped, tortured for three weeks, and murdered by a violent gang that targeted him because he was Jewish.

He was found naked on a roadside, gagged, handcuffed, showing signs of torture, with 80% of his body burned. He died from his injuries on the way to the hospital.

Yesterday, the olive tree planted years ago in his memory was cut down.

A year after Ilan’s murder, his mother moved his remains from France to Jerusalem so that no one could ever desecrate his grave.

She was right.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/08/15/france-ilan-halimi-jewish-antisemitism-bayrou-tree/c949b188-79b5-11f0-a013-3892e10b2f53_story.html

WaPo also reported on this

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EllaDisenchanted · 15/08/2025 12:24

there’s a few more recently I didn’t post about.

one was this disgusting incitement against a Jewish high school in the US:
“NYC resident Iman Abdul takes to Instagram inviting people to attack a Jewish school.

This incitement against Jews, specifically minor children, must be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.”

https://x.com/stopantisemites/status/1953531885134500198?s=46

stop antisemitism posted the following update

“Update: Iman Abdul, 27, an organizer for AOC, has been arrested & charged with making a terroristic threat, acting in a manner injurious to a child, aggravated harassment, and making a threat of mass harm after posting the name and location of Leon M. Goldstein High School for the Sciences in Manhattan Beach and urging her followers to attack it.”

organiser for AOC?!

have seen on MSM, not just x

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Towerofsong · 15/08/2025 17:46

EllaDisenchanted · 14/08/2025 20:28

Nicole lampert’s piece on antisemitism in the London evening standard
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/london-jews-fear-attacks-on-schoolchildren-b1242796.html

I am speechless, it is all just horrendous. The only positive is that it's being reported in mainstream media.

knitnerd90 · 15/08/2025 23:41

It's not a Jewish school, it's a public school. I don't know why that hasn't been corrected.

AOC actually got expelled from DSA for not being anti-Israel enough. Being a "youth organiser" is meaningless, she may never even have met AOC.

EllaDisenchanted · 16/08/2025 19:02

You’re right, I looked it up, it’s not a Jewish school. However the threat is very clearly aimed at the Jewish students “Lexus driving, Israhell loving Zionisits all attend here. They’ve all gone on ‘Birthright.’” (Sic)
the ‘ birthright’ bit gives her game away…

what is the DSA? Also fair enough re your point about being a youth organiser and AOC.

EllaDisenchanted · 16/08/2025 21:00

https://x.com/Palestine001_/status/1954405105085612296

red hands in Brussels. what a way to show solidarity, echoing the Ramallah lynching 😳
i can't say it's deliberate antisemitism, but do these people know what imagery they are referencing???

Pic is what they are referencing.

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