Antisemitism

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I read the posts on here with interest and often the subject of anti semitism comes up. I was brought up in a town in the South East. My mum gave me a book about Anne Frank when I was around 8 and I can remember asking ' what is a Jew?' as I had never met one. When I was about 14 a girl from northern Israel came to my school and I was asked to befriend her and help her settle in. I can remember being fascinated about her life in a Kibbutz and she used to show me
Hebrew writing. I don't recall ever hearing anything anti semitic about her or her brother as the only two Jewish kids - to my knowledge in the school. I also remember in my twenties encountering a group of lads from North London - white something and them having an absolute hatred for Jewish people. I can remember feeling utterly shocked as I'd never heard anti Jewish speak prior to this. Reading some of the recent posts on here it has made me wonder wherever there are pockets in the Uk with Jewish communities that experience antisemitism where the rest of the UK it does not occur as people simply have never met a Jewish person just their life- to their knowledge.Where I live I have only met 4 Jewish people in the Uk in my life and I am 47. The most Jewish people I have met were in Israel when I visited in 2000.

The antizionism-is-not-antisemitism mob have turned up to protest a production of Fiddler on the Roof in London.

Any Jewish posters on here who march alongside this lot? Really keen to hear how you square this.

https://x.com/nicolelampert/status/1820541286543462634

So incredibly fucked up

I agree, they have.

And Fiddler ends with ... a pogrom if memory serves me correctly. If this protest outside the theatre wasn't so serious I'd see the irony of it.
My mother's family went from the Ukraine to Germany over a century ago.

How awful, not to mention stupid. Yes it is set in what is now Ukraine. There is a thread about another performance of Fiddler elsewhere on this board.

Yes.
Kind of what the poster was worried about, I think.
These people are just so dense.
What next? Protests outside bagel shops?
Just admit you hate Jews. The honesty would be refreshing.

https://www.thejc.com/news/usa/miami-mayor-helps-clean-up-kosher-bagel-shop-attacked-with-palestine-graffiti-ht781hc8

https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/boichik-bagels-berkeley-graffiti-18710182.php

This is unreal.

Wonder how many of Finchley's Jews believe in a Jewish homeland and Israel's right to exist. I would imagine the majority. So there's only one way to interpret this.

These people know exactly what they're doing. Selective anti-racists (at best). Utter scum.

https://x.com/joshxhowie/status/1821229789698535811

My cousin just reposted this. It's gone beyond the pale.

Wow. Just wow.

"We will not be mobilising or standing with Zionist, liberal Zionist, Zionist sympathisers, two state solutionists..."etc etc

https://x.com/nicolelampert/status/1821210572559380584/photo/1

IHRC - feels like the gotcha of evidence that so many of us have already experienced.
So sad. How can we change this when this shit comes from the top?

I saw Israel being blamed for the riots

https://x.com/tracking_power/status/1819696060941627553?s=61&t=U9XrcF693-JpMxeIueYG7g

The long tweet starts with "The riots have been instigated by the Zionist asset Stephen Yaxley-Lennon ('Tommy Robinson'), who has been working for the State of Israel since 2009 as part of the so-called 'counterjihad' Islamophobia movement established by that state" and just gets worse from there.

noblegiraffe and Israeli flags being held by these fascists who pretend Jews are their friends. Makes me sick.

Yes, the riots are a Zionist plot apparently. 🙄

Yep, I've read on MN about how Tommy Robinson is our friend.

I distinctly remember Tommy Robinson being told to fuck off, he wasn't welcome at the antisemitism march.

Good. The brass neck to even consider turning up!

Sadly I've read on MN posts about how he supports Jews. And people believe that shite.

Watching some of these counter protests on the news right now....lots of Palestine flags

Totally squeezed out of society. Obviously not with the rioters, rejected by the counter-protesters... a minority, but also "too white"... we've known this for ages, but feeling it more than ever now. Don't want to go to Israel right now because of the instability.

Yep...seems we're not welcome anywhere....how depressing

@stonecutter i have done that often.
As @Comedycook says, we are not welcome anywhere. Indeed it seems so often if you Venn diagram these groups, hatred of Jews is the one overlapping factor.

I periodically Google countries with the highest Jewish population and lowest anti-semitic attacks, think about if I could move there, then hear of another attack in that country.
On the upside, I now have a beginner's knowledge of Swedish!

It's shit isn't it. Really, really hopeless. I don't feel comfortable in England at the moment. I have dual nationality but the other country isn't much better to be honest.

I just feel like we're on the edge of something really bad happening.
That's my fear.

I'm even sadder about how many people would read that and insist we are being ridiculous because there's "no antisemitism, no far left, no danger for Jews, the far right like Jews".
Yes, the compassion only extends to certain minorities. Well any really, apart from Jews. Until recently I thought these people just resided in fringe groups. Not any longer. But the ones I reserve a particular disdain for are the 'as a Jews' who join the protests (and the MN discourse) and basically feed the antisemites with apparent 'proof' there can't be any antisemitism. Fed up seeing the responses to actual evidence of antisemitism with 'stop lying, because look at those Jews protesting'. Fuck them and the horse they rode in on.

Ha, I just saw that poster on twitter- knew it would have a (not so) honourable mention on here.

Off topic slightly but Brits using the US import of BIPOC - featured bottom left on that poster - really gets on my nerves. Correct me if I am wrong but my understanding is that it stands for Black, Indigenous and People of Colour. The first and the last - fine, yes of course. But who exactly are indigenous people in the UK and why are Finchley against Fascists worried about them? I thought that was more the EDL's thing.

Edited to add a missing word!