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FET September Crew Thread #3

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GCS34 · 22/09/2023 11:30

Hi guys - filled up the other one, so moving us all here. Tag those I've missed!

@lowo21 @cb2805 @hopingforno2in2023 @Justkeepmoving1234 @Mrsmotts @Kirstysmbc @KG1244 @girljulian @TT82 @arm23 @Jellyfish1956 @asgirc @doughnut89 @Summerishere83 @CDiamond @73pheonix

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Hopingforno2in2023 · 21/12/2023 10:34

AF has arrived so have left a message with clinic.

Hopingforno2in2023 · 21/12/2023 11:58

Clinic just called and I have my schedule!

Injection of Gonal Peptil on 10th Jan
Baseline scan 22nd Jan
Start HRT and another scan 1st Feb
Transfer week commencing 5th Feb

GCS34 · 21/12/2023 16:45

MrsMotts · 21/12/2023 00:03

@GCS34 my OTD was Monday so still BFP (currently 14dp5dt) and good lines so hopefully this is the one! I think I’ll feel a bit better if we get some progression on the weeks CB test which I’m going to do Sunday I think.

I can’t bring myself to go for the leg - the lubion I’ve found ok. But the clexane i dread (I feel like its karma for the years of clexane I’ve given to patients 🤣) Told my husband I was going to use any leftover clexane on him so he can know how it feels (obvs just kidding)

Hope you’re feeling ok and 2WW flies by xx

@MrsMotts ahhh that's really good - I'm very pleased for you 😘After your failed in Aug / Sept, you were due some luck. Sorry for asking, but remind me - was the one that failed back end of the summer, was that your first transfer? And was that Fresh?

On the CB tests, clinics actually advise NOT using them, as they're so inacurate, and so many people (and I mean SO many) never get 3+ weeks even though they actually are and they were normal pregnancies resulting in a live baby, and as I say, clinics say not to use them as they're not reliable. Just a word of warning.

I've had cramping ever since 1dp5dt, today it's eased up, but now have a headache. I didn't get any of this in the last TWW and I got a BFP (albeit not a viable one in the end) so i'm not feeling hopeful.

@Hopingforno2in2024 that's great news!!! And my birthday is 1st February, so I'm hoping that will bring good luck your way.

I'm struggling this week as I know I should be nearly 15 weeks, and it's just really hard as two more of my friends who have been through IVF are now pregnant, and feel like I'm getting nowhere. x

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ARM23 · 23/12/2023 06:43

Hi all,
@GCS34 i hope the TWW goes quickly with a positive result 🤞
@MrsMotts congratulations on you BFP so happy for you.
@Hopingforno2in2023 so pleased that you have a plan and starting.
@Jellyfish1956 how are you doing?

Ive had my scans and results of my harmony tests…all good. I’m hoping that I can start relaxing now. I’m a bit anxious about telling people.

Hopingforno2in2023 · 23/12/2023 11:28

I’m sorry that you are struggling @GCS34, I hope that you can have a nice relaxing Christmas.

So glad scan and tests went well @ARM23

MrsMotts · 25/12/2023 07:04

@GCS34 yes my last one was fresh and first transfer. We unfortunately don’t make enough embryos to even consider freezing - the fact we’ve managed to get one each time is a miracle in itself - our chance of getting to transfer has been 5% from the beginning.

Youre absolutely right about the CB tests. Haven’t progressed past 1 - 2 and have driven myself mental 🙄 but my first response lines are still super strong so trying to remind myself the CB are utterly unreliable.

Hope you’re doing ok?

merry Christmas Ladies xxx

Hopingforno2in2023 · 25/12/2023 07:19

Happy Christmas all! I wrapped a blanket and put it under the tree last night.

GCS34 · 25/12/2023 08:41

MrsMotts · 25/12/2023 07:04

@GCS34 yes my last one was fresh and first transfer. We unfortunately don’t make enough embryos to even consider freezing - the fact we’ve managed to get one each time is a miracle in itself - our chance of getting to transfer has been 5% from the beginning.

Youre absolutely right about the CB tests. Haven’t progressed past 1 - 2 and have driven myself mental 🙄 but my first response lines are still super strong so trying to remind myself the CB are utterly unreliable.

Hope you’re doing ok?

merry Christmas Ladies xxx

@MrsMotts the fact you’ve been given 5% success rate and you’re now happily pregnant is hope faith and ambition for us all. You deserve this little Christmas miracle and I really hope you enjoy your first ever pregnant Xmas!!

thr CB weeks ones are honestly not worth it. If you google cb weeks indicator tests 3+ you’ll see howwwww much they are slagged off 😅

anyway merry Christmas darling and to you everyone else and @Hopingforno2in2023. What’s the blanket under the tree?

im okay just patiently waiting for Friday…. There’s nothing patient here I’m losing my mind 😂🙈 my nephew was born yesterday though (my sister I mentioned who had ivf and bleeding throughout and also had different tww symptoms each time) but still get that selfish pang jealousy 😔 so sad at myself but you can’t help o can you!

anyway merry Christmas all. Next year is our year Xx

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Lolly2507 · 27/12/2023 20:45

@MrsMotts I second what @GCS34 said about CB and obsessively testing in general it rarely gives you long lasting relief. I eventually got my 3+ weeks when I was well over 6 weeks.

I had my scan with the clinic today should be 7w3d but measuring 6w4d so panicking of course, my partner is trying to convince me it could have been late implantation but I've been obsessively googling so I really don't know. Consultant gave us 50/50 odds and rescanning next week.

Hope you all managed to enjoy the holidays all things considered! Xxxx

LostIVF · 27/12/2023 21:40

Hi all, haven’t posted for a while. From our September, got frozen embryo (not very high grade). The FET transfer took place before Christmas, posted update for December threat tonight - cramping started tonight, test day is on Sat.
Hoping Saturday won’t be like Sep round - found it very humiliating doing a pregnancy test when bleeding heavily, knowing it will be negative.

GCS34 · 28/12/2023 08:09

LostIVF · 27/12/2023 21:40

Hi all, haven’t posted for a while. From our September, got frozen embryo (not very high grade). The FET transfer took place before Christmas, posted update for December threat tonight - cramping started tonight, test day is on Sat.
Hoping Saturday won’t be like Sep round - found it very humiliating doing a pregnancy test when bleeding heavily, knowing it will be negative.

Hey @LostIVF im in my tww too!! My otd is tomorrow. And I feel bugger all! I cramped all the first week and now nothing at all so I can’t help but think nothings going on.

have you had any other symptoms the past few weeks? Sending love.

@Lolly2507 sorry to hear you’ve had an anxious scan. The nurse is right that it can be late implantation. We had this and they gave us the same 50;50 odds so they really can go either way. I really hope yours is the positive 50 🤞 for me what I found helped was almost accepting that it was going to be bad news, planning for it and almost grieving before so when it came to the scan it wouldn’t be as difficult, or it would be an amazing surprise. Also meant I knew my options well about management. That was me though and everyone is different. It was my way of applying some self preservation I suppose. When is your next scan? It really is so hard and I’m here if you want to chat. X

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Lolly2507 · 28/12/2023 12:02

Thank you @GCS34 I'm the same I prefer to prepare for the worst and know every little detail so I won't be shocked but my partner says it's better to be positive.

What will be will be it's just horrible isn't it when you thought you finally got what you've wanted for so long and you end up on of the unlucky ones. And I'd told my family at Christmas so that's a bit rubbish too.

Scan is weds next week, they said 7-10 days and initially I wanted to wait to give little one time to catch up and give it the full 10 days but my partner reminded me I would have lost my mind by then but I am still umming and ahhing about leaving it longer

GCS34 · 28/12/2023 12:31

Lolly2507 · 28/12/2023 12:02

Thank you @GCS34 I'm the same I prefer to prepare for the worst and know every little detail so I won't be shocked but my partner says it's better to be positive.

What will be will be it's just horrible isn't it when you thought you finally got what you've wanted for so long and you end up on of the unlucky ones. And I'd told my family at Christmas so that's a bit rubbish too.

Scan is weds next week, they said 7-10 days and initially I wanted to wait to give little one time to catch up and give it the full 10 days but my partner reminded me I would have lost my mind by then but I am still umming and ahhing about leaving it longer

@Lolly2507 It's definitely our way of preparing ourselves. My husband was the same - I'm positive, I'm confident, and I felt awful I was taking that from him! For me, I just didn't really feel like I was pregnant, and I just 'knew' something wasn't right in my gut. I felt like I already knew in my heart, but nothing is certain until you have another scan.

I think 7 days will be enough time - in the next 7 days it will have either grown or not, so it will definitely show the answer I guess. Did you see the heartbeat on the scan the other day, it was just a bit small? What date have they booked you in for your re-scan?

For me, my anxiety went crazy in those 10 days, that when we found out the result, despite it not being in our favour, I still felt this almighty sense of relief that the anxiety had gone. I feel so guilty writing that and I was really beating myself up about feeling like that in the days after, but the physical and mental pain from it all, I found it more bearable not being there at all.

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Lolly2507 · 28/12/2023 13:19

I completely understand what you mean @GCS34 so don't feel guilty at all I would just rather know one way or another good or bad so I can start planning ahead.

I am really just hoping it's late implantation as everything is measuring smaller but all correct for that gestation so heartbeat there but slow (consultant said but it could be that it's just started and will now begin to speed) but I don't know if I'm just kidding myself.

I really just want to be prepared for whatever happens. I think with IVF it's often bad news your entire journey that it's not unusual to not 'believe' good news even when it is a healthy viable pregnancy.

I didn't even look at the test I did it and left the room to cry in bed because I was SO SURE it wouldn't be positive. And I still don't think it's sunk in or I believe it and like you I've convinced myself it's my body's way of telling me something isn't right 💔

GCS34 · 28/12/2023 16:26

Lolly2507 · 28/12/2023 13:19

I completely understand what you mean @GCS34 so don't feel guilty at all I would just rather know one way or another good or bad so I can start planning ahead.

I am really just hoping it's late implantation as everything is measuring smaller but all correct for that gestation so heartbeat there but slow (consultant said but it could be that it's just started and will now begin to speed) but I don't know if I'm just kidding myself.

I really just want to be prepared for whatever happens. I think with IVF it's often bad news your entire journey that it's not unusual to not 'believe' good news even when it is a healthy viable pregnancy.

I didn't even look at the test I did it and left the room to cry in bed because I was SO SURE it wouldn't be positive. And I still don't think it's sunk in or I believe it and like you I've convinced myself it's my body's way of telling me something isn't right 💔

@Lolly2507 I'm glad I don't sound totally insensitive. It was the not knowing as you say, and the anxiety that wouldn't leave me. I slept so well the night we found out, mostly from sheer exhaustion and the relief from the anxiety leaving me. And as you say, can allow you to plan ahead etc.

I think by the sounds of the fact that everything is measuring smaller, not just the embryo, is a good sign as that does imply what the nurse was saying that it was a late implanter. I think everything was the right gestation size for us, bar the fetus, so that was a bit of a red flag.

I always say IVF is like a really shit game of Snakes and Ladders -- you're going along fine, sometimes you jump further along that you thought, then you land on a snake and you're back 10 spaces without any warning, and you have to do it all again. Either that or a really shit casino with really shit Roulette odds 😂

Don't take what I say as right or wrong though, it was just how I felt and what my anxiety was making me think I'm sure. I'm in the exact same situation now, losing my mind about testing tomorrow, and convincing myself it's game over, and I can't even think straight. Maybe I should go to an actual casino, as I feel like I've got more chance of winning there and bringing something home😅

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MrsMotts · 28/12/2023 18:11

@Lolly2507 keeping everything crossed for a positive result in a week for you. I totally agree with you and @GCS34 - I’m definitely one to prepare for the worst. It’s total self preservation for me I think. Will be keeping everything crossed for you 🤞🏼

@GCS34 the logical medical professional part of my brain knows that obsessive testing is the worst - but somehow it helps my anxiety to know if lines are getting better or not (even though I know that’s no guarantee!) Got a dye stealer this morning on FRER and I think I’ll give up on CB altogether they just make me feel bad 🙄 but I’d rather know early if lines are fading etc I just feel more prepared.

Huge well done to you holding out until OTD! I am utterly lacking that will power 🤣

girljulian · 28/12/2023 22:04

MrsMotts · 28/12/2023 18:11

@Lolly2507 keeping everything crossed for a positive result in a week for you. I totally agree with you and @GCS34 - I’m definitely one to prepare for the worst. It’s total self preservation for me I think. Will be keeping everything crossed for you 🤞🏼

@GCS34 the logical medical professional part of my brain knows that obsessive testing is the worst - but somehow it helps my anxiety to know if lines are getting better or not (even though I know that’s no guarantee!) Got a dye stealer this morning on FRER and I think I’ll give up on CB altogether they just make me feel bad 🙄 but I’d rather know early if lines are fading etc I just feel more prepared.

Huge well done to you holding out until OTD! I am utterly lacking that will power 🤣

I really would stop testing — I learned the hard way that even if you miscarry, it makes no difference to the lines for ages once you’ve had a dye stealer. It was about four weeks before my lines faded after I had medical management and they hadn’t started to fade at all before that, even though foetus had stopped developing.

LostIVF · 29/12/2023 08:10

@GCS34 - love you comparison of ‘Snakes and Ladders’, the whole process feels exactly like that.
I’ve no symptoms, other than cramping and lower tummy pain. Otherwise, I’ve horrible flu now, hubby is buying a Covid test once pharmacies open, so hoping that test to be negative!

girljulian · 03/01/2024 18:01

Hey ladies, Happy New Year! How is everyone getting on?

girljulian · 04/01/2024 13:55

@Lolly2507 I think you had your scan yesterday, I hope you're doing okay whatever was the outcome (but of course I hope it was positive)!

@GCS34 did you get your BFP?

Hopingforno2in2023 · 04/01/2024 15:04

Hello :)

I am just waiting for 10th Jan to get going.

how is everyone?

Lolly2507 · 04/01/2024 18:03

@girljulian thanks for checking in, we actually moved it to today so 8 days after the last scan and was measuring 6 days further from last time but no heartbeat detected so it's confirmed as a missed miscarriage

I think I'm in shock although I expected it and prepared myself as I explained, I actually went back to work as a distraction but I think I'll crumble once I get in tonight

Hope you all have more positive news on the horizon!

girljulian · 04/01/2024 19:22

Lolly2507 · 04/01/2024 18:03

@girljulian thanks for checking in, we actually moved it to today so 8 days after the last scan and was measuring 6 days further from last time but no heartbeat detected so it's confirmed as a missed miscarriage

I think I'm in shock although I expected it and prepared myself as I explained, I actually went back to work as a distraction but I think I'll crumble once I get in tonight

Hope you all have more positive news on the horizon!

Oh, I’m so so sorry. My missed miscarriage was confusing and dragged on a bit, so we’re just now getting ready for another transfer in Feb hopefully.

It’s awful when it’s conflicting things in the scan, isn’t it? Like in your case, it had grown.

Lolly2507 · 04/01/2024 20:43

girljulian · 04/01/2024 19:22

Oh, I’m so so sorry. My missed miscarriage was confusing and dragged on a bit, so we’re just now getting ready for another transfer in Feb hopefully.

It’s awful when it’s conflicting things in the scan, isn’t it? Like in your case, it had grown.

@girljulian yeah I'm definitely dreading it dragging on maybe anyone that's gone through the same infertility struggle, IVF then this can relate but part of me wants to cling to it and even think they were wrong and it's grown and I should get another scan to check again and keep taking progesterone until they're 110% sure etc etc and the other part just wants it over with so we can have a fresh start. I was right about the home time breakdown 😅 so just riding all of the emotions of grief and disappointment right now.

I need to wait for my follow up for my individual case to be reviewed but do you know how long in theory until I could have another transfer? Would there need to be a full cycle or two between or does it vary?

girljulian · 04/01/2024 20:55

I felt the same @Lolly2507 — I did have a second scan but that was only because I went to the NHS clinic for medical management and they had to scan me again because they didn’t have my private notes. It wasn’t budging. No change on that scan.

my clinic (and lots of clinics) seem to think 2 cycles as a sort of magic number, but it took bloody ages for me to bleed again after my medical management so it was a bit frustrating! 7 weeks I think.