FET September Crew Thread #3

[GCS34]

Hi guys - filled up the other one, so moving us all here. Tag those I've missed!

@lowo21 @cb2805 @hopingforno2in2023 @Justkeepmoving1234 @Mrsmotts @Kirstysmbc @KG1244 @girljulian @TT82 @arm23 @Jellyfish1956 @asgirc @doughnut89 @Summerishere83 @CDiamond @73pheonix

@Jellyfish1956 really pleased your scan went well. Sending love. And congrats @CB2805 - twins would be a great result huh? Do you mind me asking why they transferred 2? Was that due to a history?

I have a call with the embryologist today, and we've got a planning appointment on Thursday to talk drugs and the next transfer so it's ready and set up for when we're ready, but I already have already seen my protocol on my portal, and it's so many more drugs than last time! I'm finding it all a bit overwhelming and the though of doing another transfer terrifies me. I am really scared. I'm not sure how I could cope with a negative outcome - It's just such a head fuck isn't it? @kirstysmbc did you feel like that?

@Jellyfish1956 oh my god yessss, cramps so painful and odd that get me so worried all the time! Can’t wait for that first scan🤭

@Hopingforno2in2023 congrats great news🤞🩵 sticky luck for transfer 🍀

@GCS34 tbh with you I insisted on 2 to increase chances, they made me sign all paper work and stuff that it is my own responsibility etc. it paid off tho, but im not gonna lie I never thought I would have twins and as time pass it’s getting kind of scary.

i know how you feeling, I entered this fet 100% sure that won’t work full of negativity and anxiety- literally planing my next steps after couple of days as I was dreading that 4th bfn. Every singe unsuccessful transfer has taken a piece of my soul with it! Easy to say I know but please stay strong and take care of yourself🩵

Hey everyone 👋 I recognise a few names here from back in original august/sep chat awhile ago and fell off it as unfortunately had a miscarriage from my transfer in august. I’m due to start medication for next transfer in December with transfer likely happening in January 😁 super excited finally getting closer to everything. Had some time away from all the forums as was difficult seeing everyone manage to go through more transfers and my clinic had such a long wait! Anyone else thinking of transfer around same time? Hope everyone is doing ok xxx

@Ellenn hey you. I think I might be with you xx

@CB2805 I would def step away from the tests now, you can start to get the hook effect, which causes huge panic. And not to be too blunt, but with my mmc, my hcg never dropped until after surgery. I was taking false hope from them, so I stopped after the beta tests last time.

@Jellyfish1956 Yep, not got a great feeling about this one, so think it might just be a lot of negative tests over the next week or so, but I don't have the patience to wait it out...

@Hopingforno2in2023 Welcome to the 2ww and congrats on transfer. How did it go? When is OTD?

@GCS34 how did the call go today? To be honest, I was all about moving forward and hoping for the best. I am feeling a lot les hopefully now that this is my last attempt, but after the first one, I still felt very positive. What changes are they making? My only change was to increase progesterone...

@Ellenn Welcome back, and I'm so sorry again for your loss. I really hope this is your lucky cycle

I am so sorry for your loss @Ellenn. Best of wishes for your next round.

I have a 4bb on board and a 3bb in the freezer so very happy :) OTD is 25/11

@kirstysmbc Am I mistaken or is your OTD tomorrow? How are you feeling? I have a really good feeling for you. I think it makes a wonderful narrative for the final one!

The embryologist called and they will only transfer 1 x embryo 😓They said that I am still high-risk for a multiple pregnancy despite having a miscarriage, so we go again with 1 x embryo and hope for the best which doesn't feel very hopeful at this stage.

The 4 x embryos remaining are grade C's, but they use a different grading system to the 5AB one for example, and they said it is a good embryo and based on my age, they don't have any concerns which is why they'll only do 1 as still a high risk patient for twins apparently.

I am sure the positivity will come again, I think it is just really really raw still at the moment, and I'm emotionally not ready to think forward yet, but with the clinic being so proactive and wanting everything set their end for when we're ready, we're having to just sort some stuff. I guess I rather them be like that than saying no.

drug wise, previously I was on:

6 x 2mg Oestrogen tablets p/day
1 x Oestrogen patch, every other day (started from day 14 onwards - not from the start)
3 x progesterone from 5-days pre-transfer onwards

This time I'm on:

6 x 2mg Oestrogen tablets p/day
1 x 2mg Oestrogen pessary p/day
2 x Oestrogen patches every other day from day 1 this time
3 x Progesterone from 5-days pre transfer onwards

@GCS34 Not otd, I'll only be 5dp5dt tomorrow, I'm just an early tester. OTD isn't until 22nd.

I wouldn't be too disheartened about not being able to transfer two. I was only allowed due to being over 40 when embryos were created. At your age, each one on it's own still has a really good chance.

Did you have low oestrogen? That seems an awful lot! I would also recommend testing progesterone on / just before transfer day. It's not standard at my clinic, but they do it if you ask, and it was low on my first fet.

And I think it's perfectly natural to take a bit of a break, as much time as you need to feel ready to move on. You need to be both physically and emotionally ready to try again.

Morning everyone - trying to keep vaguely hopeful but I’ve woken up bleeding. My scan was tomorrow anyway so I’ve contacted the consultant to see if it needs bringing forward or if I may as well just wait. I’m already on progesterone injections as well as pessaries so there’s limited things to be done. My husband (who’s an O&G reg) is being reassuring and telling me it’s really common to bleed a bit in early pregnancy and that he’s seen a lot more blood in women who went on to have a normal pregnancy but I just feel it’s all going wrong.

@Salacia I'm sorry you've got this extra stress. Bleeding can be normal, but that certainly doesn't make it any easier to deal with. Keeping everything crossed all goes well with your scan.

I tested this morning (5dp5dt) and it's a BFN. I know it is still early and could just be later implantation, but I've always had a BFP by this time before on 3 previous transfers. Can't help feeling I'm out already 😔

Hi ladies just came back from my early scan, it’s official there are 2 buns in the oven🤭finger crossed everything goes as planned🤞
@kirstysmbc i know it’s a crazy roller coaster that testing, try not to worry it’s still early could be a late implantation🤞🤞
@Salacia i know it’s easier said that done but try not to worry. Just came back from an early scan today and dr said that I could potentially see some blood (he could see it on the scan) and to give him a call if that happens. From what he mentioned it’s something quite common early in the pregnancy and not to worry that much🤞

@kirstysmbc - 🤞crossed that you’re just a little early - when is your formal test scheduled?

@CB2805 congratulations on your two!

Thanks both for the reassurance. I know that it’s not necessarily the end of the road and this is common - just feels cosmically unfair. Feel like if you’ve had ivf there should be some sort of celestial pass from any worrying symptoms as recognition of everything thing else you’ve put up with! I’ve got a friend who is a few months ahead of me and has had a lot of bleeding but the pregnancy still seems to be going well. Plus like I said, my husband is a gynaecologist and has looked after hundreds of women in our position when all has worked out well.

It’s also not helped by the fact that I’ve woken up with a cold too so I’m just feeling very sorry for myself. I’ve spoken to my GP and consultant and the plan is to wait for my scan tomorrow evening as planned (EPAU couldn’t get me in until tomorrow regardless and I’d rather see the consultant to talk next steps if we need to).

@Salacia i know the worry at this point it’s crazy. I always thought that 2WW it’s the worst part but I was so mistaken- it seems like a piece of cake now. I’m sending lots of sticky luck your way and I’m sure everything will be fine🤞🍀

ps. Husband who’s OB? Wow I think that’s great help and support in your journey☺️even tho I bet it feels different bc it’s your DH

I’m really sorry about the bleeding @Salacia, I really hope your scan tomorrow shows all is well.

Sorry also for the BFN @kirstysmbc but it is still early!

Congrats on the twins @CB2805, I hope your pregnancy is nice and smooth.

My final two didn’t make it to blastocyst so I end this cycle with my 4bb on board and my 3bb in the freezer. Keeping everything crossed the 4bb is the one!

I'm so sorry you're having such a stressful time with the bleeding @Salacia I've got everything crossed all is ok tomorrow at the scan 🤞🏻🤞🏻

Great that you have a 4BB on board and a 3bb in the freezer @Hopingforno2in2023 ! Great grades! Are you feeling ok after the transfer?

I know it's hard @kirstysmbc but try not to loose hope yet. It's still early and maybe the embryo was a little behind/smaller than the other ones you transferred in the past?

Congrats on the twins @CB2805 !! Glad the scan went well! Could they see much?

@Hopingforno2in2023 thank you🩵 lots of sticky luck your way, how you’ve been feeling?

@Jellyfish1956 thank you!! Just 2 little black dots🤭 I guess the whole point of scan was to confirm twins?, also they prescribed some progesterone injections just in case as dr said he could see some blood so I may see some spotting? I hope not🤞

@CB2805 congratulations on twins confirmed. Really hope it all goes okay.

@Hopingforno2in2023 really great you have a spare in the freezer. Did they not culture that 3bb like they did the other ones to see if it could get to 5 or not? And a 4bb on board is a great opportunity. Did they not keep it to day 5? I thought they had or maybe I’ve missed as I’ve been passively reading.

@Salacia 1/3rd of pregnancies have bleeding in the first trimester. Just try keep your head till tomorrow. I’m sure it’ll be okay as your husband said. And I think you’d know the difference between pregnancy bleeding and the other kind..

@kirstysmbc ah I see. I saw your result and wouldn’t lose hope! As you know, by Friday things can change! Did you early test with your daughter? And did you show from day 5?

yeah I think I’m warming to the idea of 1. They said it’s because I’m no less high-risk because of the MMC And my age etc too. I guess it’s a good thing that they still see me as high chance to get pregnant. Even cloud I suppose.

Re oestrogen levels - because of having Lean PCOS, I have lining issues (I’m sure you recall my drama pre transfer that I bored you with) so they need to throw a lot at me to get me to respond. and progesterone - I am on lubion injections as well I found out today too.

thank you again for your support hun. Honestly you’ve been so wonderful and as you say, having someone who gets it and is supportive, helps bring that hope back to life. I just hope I can do the same for you and support you through your pregnancy 🤍 xx

I am well thanks @Jellyfish1956 & @CB2805

So both of mine are day 5 blastocysts @GCS34. My understanding is that 4 mean an expanded blastocyst and a 3 is a blastocyst where the embryo fills the cavity. I thought it referred to days originally before but it turns out not!

@GCS34 That makes sense round the meds, it always feels good to be changing something in a fresh attempt!

Negative again today, and so I'm pretty certain I'm out. I always test early and have seen BFP on all three previous transfers before now, including with my daughter. Now need to decide whether I'm going to try donor embryos or just be very grateful to ahead have my daughter and leave it at one.

I’m sorry @kirstysmbc definitely take time to think through your options x

@kirstysmbc sorry for another negative. I was keeping my fingers crossed for you. Hope you’re being well looked after.

@GCS34 thank you I really hope so too🤞

@kirstysmbc sorry for your news! I know it doesn’t feel very promising but it’s not done yet. Take care of yourself🩵

Good luck at your scan this evening @Salacia got everything crossed all is ok.

@kirstysmbc sorry it's not a positive today. Take some time to look after yourself and hopefully you still get the outcome you deserve 🤞🏻🤞🏻 Have the clinic advised donor eggs would be the next step?

@GCS34 hopefully the additional drugs will help next time. I'm on lubion and although it stings a bit, I find it quite comforting to have!