ICSI January 2023

[Infertilitylife]

Hello,

My partner and I need IVF due to MFI. We are hoping to start treatment in January 2023.

I had my fertility ultrasound scans today and these are my results:

AFC -

Left Ovary - 13 follicles
Right Ovary - 14 follicles

My Endo thickness was 7.3mm (cycle day 10).

I have no masses, cysts, fluid etc - everything looked smooth and normal.
How do these results seem?

I was also told I have a retroverted uterus - will this affect IVF?
Thank you

@User491 Not long to go before you get started then 😃
Are they resistant in giving you extra progesterone then?
Yep, I finally ovulated so booked in for transfer Friday 😃

@Brown269 ahh that's amazing news 🥳 I bet you can't wait! Then the dreaded 2ww 😬😂

Yes they are reluctant to give it as they only usually give it after recurring miscarriages. My level was only at 1 after I bled last time then it rose slowly, so I gave them the blood work print out, hoping they allow me to have it. It's crazy that it's something they question when it's perfectly safe to take and so many other clinics offer it as standard. I really hope they listen to me 🤞🏻🤞🏻

@User491 Yeah I’m so pleased to finally get to this point to be honest. I had a huge mental dip Saturday after they booked us and couldn’t understand why I felt so sad after finally getting the good news we’d wanted, but I think I just had my emotional guard up so much expecting it to be abandoned this month that I didn’t quite know how to process it 🫣 Really excited for it now though 🥰 Especially knowing that DH will be flapping around me, treating me like a delicate little princess for a couple weeks, it’ll be nice 😂

Yeah that is odd, feel like everyone had progesterone doing ivf 😬 I’m doing natural and was still offered it but I said no, I wanna try and do completely natural and hope that works for me 🤞🏼
Hopefully they will listen to you and it won’t take much persuading for them to prescribe you some!

Hey both! Exciting updates for you both!
@User491 best of luck for starting down reg today.

@Brown269 I'll have my fingers crossed for Friday for you!

How exciting.

I've been in a lot of pain, so we're finally having that investigated as it's gotten worse since the OHSS, currently waiting for a scan from the hospital.

Hi @Sj2505 Thank you 🥰

Oh that’s awful 😞 I’m really sorry to hear you’re suffering so much.
Im glad they’re going to investigate though, have they given any indication of what may be causing it?

@Sj2505 I hope they can figure out why you’re still in a lot of pain. That’s awful.

@User491 Good luck starting down reg today.

@Brown269 Good luck for Friday! Will be thinking of you!

We’re back from our little break. I’ve been taking norethisterone since last Tuesday, it hasn’t really affected me at all. A few cramps, slightly sore boobs but I randomly get that some cycles anyway. I have to take it until Thursday, then I’ve got to wait for a bleed and then it’s stims time!

I took AL for last egg collection and a few days after to recover, but I’m running out of holidays so I’ve decided to take sick leave for a week following egg collection. I mean, I wouldn’t be well enough to work, quite uncomfortable etc. What is everyone else doing? Work are good, been told I’ll get lots of support so I suppose this will test that to a degree (it’ll put me over trigger point absence wise).

Thanks @Lauralozzle 🥰
I also ran out of annual leave so have been making the time up for appointments. I had booked a weeks a/l after EC then ended up taking another week off sick, I also have no a/l left now and currently waiting for my manager to confirm whether I can take unpaid / planned sickness for Friday… but I’m taking it off whatever he says ✋🏼😂

@Brown269 I hope your manager got back to you and you’re all sorted for Friday!

Update from me: I take it all back. I hate norethisterone. Woke up maybe about 5AM with super sharp cramps. They were like period cramps. They died down a bit but I’ve been moderately crampy all day. I feel a bit sick, I’m knackered and generally feeling a bit poo!

I got a bit emotional today as I was going through works fertility policy. I’m not excited this time, just scared and apprehensive. I’m not scared about the injections, I’m scared my one working ovary won’t respond, that they’ll get eggs but they won’t fertilise and I’ll end up with another absolutely rubbish blast or nothing at all. I was excited on our last round, full of hope. It’s all a bit doom and gloom today. I’m blaming the norethisterone and hormones. I’m clearly very PMS-y today! We have a new plan and protocol and I can’t predict what will happen. I hate this ‘journey’ sometimes.

Still, onwards and upwards as they say. One more day of these tablets! I can certainly do that!

@Lauralozzle He did finally authorise but it will go down as a sickness which is quite frustrating as I already have a sickness on my record from after EC so if I have another this year it will trigger an interview - but it is what it is and I’ll cross that bridge when I get to it!

Sorry you’re feeling a bit rubbish :( definitely blame the noretheristone! It’s hard to stay upbeat when you will just keep thinking of what went wrong in your last round but try not to look too far in to the future (easy said than done I know!) and just focus on each step being a success at the time, Just one more day of this crappy phase then that’s completed and on to the next step!

This journey really is the worst though, I keep saying this year has completely changed who I am as a person and not for the better. With the ivf and losing my dad I just feel like I’m half the person I was, I’ve turned in to quite a bitter, negative person and seem to get joy and happiness out of a lot less than I did this time last year. I hope it will ease with time but I really do resent how ivf has changed the way I look at the world :(

@Brown269 eek transfer day tomorrow, and I assume a McDonald's 😂😋
Bless you for feeling down though, it certainly does take its toll and you've had a lot to deal with. Try and remain positive and just think you will be PUPO tomorrow ☺️

@Sj2505 thank you! aww bless you, have you indication of how long you will wait for the scan? Hope they don't leave you too long!

@Lauralozzle thank you! I hope you are ok, almost at the end of this stage and almost time for the next. Hope when your period arrives it's not too awful.
How are you feeling about start the stims? I loved getting to that point last time as it's like somethings about to finally happen 😂

Awful for you guys with holidays etc, I hope they are flexible and you manage to get what time you need without any problems! I'm very lucky in that respect as I work for family so I can take what days I need when I need them, however, it has a downside as I end up working when I should be resting if I feel moderately ok 🙈 I'm just going to gauge how I feel and decide at the time I think.

I've only done 2 days of the down reg and I've been so crampy, it's weird as last time I didn't really have any symptoms. The only thing I can think of is I've taken it at a different point in my cycle this time (my clinic don't ask what day you are on and start it randomly)
I feel very apprehensive this time round, I keep feeling positive one minute and then think of all the things that could go wrong etc. it's such a hard journey 😢

Thanks @User491 🥰
Yeah, I’m really looking forward to being PUPO, it’s my first ever transfer so I’m looking forward to being technically pregnant for however long it lasts 🥰
DH has promised me a McDonald’s after the transfer so I’m definitely looking forward to that 😋

Thats odd that your clinic starts meds
on a random day isn’t it, but that is prob what is causing you to feel the effects differently this time, hopefully they ease soon ❤️ And try and stay positive, it’s all steps in the right direction 🥰

@Brown269 it’s rubbish you have to take it as sick but at least it’s sorted. How did transfer go? I hope it went swimmingly 😃

@User491 I’m fine starting stims. It can’t come soon enough.

Thanks everyone. I feel much better today - less gloomy. I think this whole shit show just rears its ugly head at times. I’ve had a mammoth headache today though, glad I’ve finished work for the day. Early night tonight me thinks, I’ve typed bed instead of day twice in this message before realising and changing it!

I’ve just taken my last norethisterone, albeit a couple of hours early because the brain fog is real. So, at least no more of them! Still cramping today but not as bad as yesterday morning by a long shot!

@Lauralozzle Transfer is tomorrow 🥰
Glad you’re feeling better today 😃 and an early night always puts me right if I’m feeling a little down in the dumps!
When do you start stims now then?

@Brown269 I don’t know why I thought it was Friday!! Brain fog at its highest.

@Lauralozzle Hopefully you’ll feel a little more human now you’ve stopped the noretheristone 🤭😆

@Brown269 Hopefully the mushy brain will go away soon!

I start stims CD2, just got to wait for my period now!

@Lauralozzle Hopefully it comes soon then 🤞🏼
Ive just got in bed, feel like a kid on Christmas Eve 😂 sooner I go to sleep the sooner it will be tomorrow 🤭

@Brown269 good luck for today, so exciting 😊 enjoy that McDonald's too 😊

@Lauralozzle the stims are defo the better part of the journey!
So pleased your feeling a lot better, must have been one of those awful days. Hopefully your period arrives quickly 😊

@Brown269 Good luck for today!!

@User491 yes, definitely one of those days! Now the wait for my period to show up! Shouldn’t be too long hopefully. They reckon within 2-5 days of stopping norethisterone so either over the weekend or early next week.

@User491 @Lauralozzle Thanks both 🥰 just on the way home now, all went well and we got a picture of the embryo in my lining which was lovely 🥰
I’m pretty crampy now but he did say the catheta made my cervix bleed so that could be why!

@Brown269 I’m glad it went well for you!! PUPO now!

No more norethisterone for me. For those that have taken it, how long did it take to start AF?

@Lauralozzle Thank you 😃
Whenever I’ve taken it I’ve come on 3/4 days later.

Hope everyone is doing ok? I've been lurking on and off and trying to catch up a bit. We are still unsure what to do next. We've had two consultations with two different clinics now. We went back to WFI for one and it's crazy when your NHS we wanting two years to get going.... paying private they told us we can start straight away!

Congratulations @Brown269 how you been feeling?

And @User491 and @Lauralozzle exciting to start the next parts of your journeys.

Thanks @Autumbreeze 🥰 I’m not feeling any different to be honest, which is quite frustrating, I keep wanting to feel something so I can think it’s worked 😬 but other than being slightly more irritated by my DH I feel the same 🤷🏼‍♀️😂

I can imagine they are a lot quicker to get you going when private as they are eager to charge you quicker 😬 even though they still get the money through from the NHS but understandable they prioritise private I guess.
Whats your thought process at the moment? Just not sure which clinic to go with?

@Brown269 glad your doing well.... that's normal for me to feel like that about DH haha. It plays with your mind so much doesn't it? Always wanting to feel something then when you do, scared it may be a bad thing your feeling. Nightmare. Have everything crossed for you.

I do prefer the other clinic..... but WFI is cheaper and quicker. I'm really not sure what to do. Its frustrating.