Ivf nov/dec cycle buddies

[ivfhope3]

Hi.. I'm starting my third round of ivf First didn't stick second did an ended with a miscarriage.. I'm about to have my third round so throught is start a thread if anyone would like to share there journey or is awaiting ivf. Etc. Let do it together. I was on a thread before an really helped.
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I meant that in the past 1 year I have had 3 miscarriages

@Sweets208

Really sorry to hear about your really tough year. I haven't managed to get pregnant once in two years but I cannot imagine dealing with the terrible loss of miscarriage. I still feel naive to your experience.

I hope this cycle is the one for you.

@Sweets208 am sorry you have had such a difficult year 😥, fingers crossed for this cycle for you x

Hello everyone. Been a busy week at work. So much has happened on here since I last checked in. Can't wait to catch up with everyone this weekend. Xxx

@Sweets208 that’s very tough. You’re incredibly strong. Hoping for good news soon.

Thanks for everyone asking about the scan. No movement despite the taking meds every day. Im increasing the meds and back for a scan on Monday morning. All I need is 1-2 decent follicles for IUI but they are being lazy!

It was a horribly stressful day though. Feel like I’ma disaster at work. Nearly missed the scan cos I got pulled in to deal with an issue. It’s really hard skipping out of work so much. I also have some problems with walking at the moment so it’s not easy for me to get there which adds even more stress and makes a 45 min journey each way be more like 90 mins each way. I ended up sobbing the whole way there.

Anyway... we figure these things out, right? A relaxing weekend needed.

@ivfhope3 Hi hun. No problem at all. I wish I can help more often. Work is just crazy busy all the time. Wish I could take time off until my IVF is done. Haha

You cracked me up on the shaving point. I always do mine literally the night before 🤪

How have you been? Great to hear you’re moving forward now. So so happy for you darling!

Keeping my fingers crossed for good news on Monday after your scan. It sounds like it’s all going to happen real quick for you as well. When do think is transfer day likely to be? Do you think hubby will be with you for transfer day? xxx

@MF1981 Hiya, not sure if anyone replied on this yet as I’m still catching up but if you’ve had an AFC scan, I believe that’s the same thing as a baseline scan. Did they also do a scan to look at your uterus lining during the mock transfer? I believe baseline scan is just any scan to check the starting point before treatment begins.

Sorry to hear on partners SA results. Don’t give up on diet and supplements though. It really helped improve my DH’s SA result. It will take time but we found sticking to the plan very worthwhile.

Good luck with AF arriving soon so you can get started with your injections xxx

@BrandyM hey sweets. Nice to hear from you. How are things?? Haha I still haven't shaved.. I keep looking an thinking I can't be arsed lol..

Transfer If ok on Monday is usually 5 days after so Friday or Saturday.

I've had a few tummy pains today. I went to the doctor they have put me on antibiotics just to be safe. I think
It's a good idea anyways as least I know I'll be clean of infection by then.

I don't think hubby is aloud to go again now they was allowing them an now not.. he's also back at his mums so he can see his children as it's to many house holds mixing. I'm now off work again cause of this covid.. but I've starting a new carer so gives me a chance to study.. an least with that I can try an keep my mind off ivf a little it's all happened so fast.

Testing date is on my birthday.

What's happening with you my lovely.??
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Hey @BrandyM yeah they looked at the lining at my mock transfer so hopefully that’s all they needed then. What changes did you make to help with SA results?

I’m feeling so frustrated today as still no sign of AF. Does anyone know if progynova delays periods? I’ve had my usual spotting all week and still am but no actual full flow.

@MF1981 I asked about this prognova as I had very little period on it an it can make it very lighter. I would double check with clinic..
I had to start mine on day one of AF an it made it really light xx

@ivfhope3 I’m on day 17 of down regulation with very little side effects so far (except long period, a bit of headache and hot flushes but nothing major). So can’t really complain.

I’ve got my scan booked for Tuesday (to check if I’ve down regged successfully). Nervous about it as I’m not sure if they’ll be able to tell me the number of follicles I have then?

Wow just a week to go and you’d have already transferred. Amazing! It’s frustrating that we are doing all these scans and transfers without our partners. But on a positive note, at least the clinics are still operating.

Praying that it’d be the best birthday present for you this year - (sending positive thoughts out to the universe 😉)

Look forward to some good news for both of us next week (following our scans). Xxx

Thinking about everyone else on this journey as well. Xxx

@MF1981 I was 6 days late which never happens, and it was really light and only lasted about 36 hours!!

@MF1981 We made some diet changes and added supplements.

The diet changes we made included eating more vegetables (large portion of broccoli, peas and green beans with dinner every day) for about 3 months before the second SA.

One month before the second SA, Hubby stopped drinking alcohol altogether (he used to enjoy a glass on wine with dinner). He also used to drink about 10 strong cups of tea a day (reduced to 3). He started taking a large number of supplements.

The clinic still wants us to consider ICSI (and we’ve already paid in advance for this) due to the history of low morphology (despite the improvements). However, they said they’ll make the final call on the day of egg collection (depending on the quality of sperm on the day).

Good luck with AF. Hope it arrives today. Mine was late by a day (but I’m on Buserelin). Xx

@Rachae Hello, how are you doing? So happy to hear you’ve successfully down regged! How’s the menopur injections going?

I’m still on buserlin. Had AF 7 days ago. The first 2-3 days were a lot heavier than usual and the last 4 days very light. I’ve never had such long AF before. I’m still spotting! Was yours longer and heavier than usual?

Did they check how many follicles you have during the down reg scan? My down reg scan is booked for Tuesday and really worried about finding out the number of follicles we are dealing with 😬

Xx

Hey @BrandyM Great to hear its going well so far! Hmm my AF was pretty much the same, maybe slightly heavier but wasn't any longer than usual.. I'm always just 3 days.
They didn't say anything about the follicles at my scan before menopure, just that eveything looked fine and I've down regged and ovaries quiet. I have a scan this Thursday too though - week before egg collection - maybe they tell me that then? Makes sense as I think the menopure is the thing that stimulates the follicles and I started that after my scan.
What's the deets with follicles.. What's a good number?

Hope everyone else is great this Saturday! Xx

@sweets208 I'm so sorry to hear about your losses. It's rare that I come across someone who has had the same experience... I had 3 miscarriages in a row in a year also.
If you wouldn't mind sharing, did you have any investigations done?
I did and they couldn't find any reason at all. It was quite frustrating in a way as even tho in the less than 1% of people, there's no explanation apart from bad probability. That was on the NHS anyway, and so they offered me IVF as a way of trialling a different way.

I've since had a consultation with St Mary's clinic in London, and they said the NHS doesn't do all the necessary blood tests. So I've got the consultant on standby in January.. If I miscarry again or IVF doesn't work, to investigate further. Xx

@Rachae I was always 3-4 days too but I’m on day 8 of AF now and still spotting. How weird? I’m sure it’s nothing to worry about but just wondered if this is normal with Buserelin.

With follicles, I don’t think there’s a definitive answer on what’s a good number but from what I’ve been informed so far a number greater than 10 is considered good. Mine was 6 when they did my baseline scan which is really disappointing but could’ve been worse given my very low AMH so I’m grateful for my 6 but praying for a better number when they check next.

Good luck with your scan on Thursday. Let us know how you get on xxx

@BrandyM yea I'm sure nothing to worry about with AF... When mine was super late I read lots of stories where women's were longer on it.
Ahh ok so maybe they might have mentioned something at my baseline then. I guess I'll hold out for my scan this Thursday! I guess 6 might be 6 eggs... And back to 1 good quality egg will do the job xx

@Jane1284 I did promise I’ll share my second opinion when I receive it (as we have very sinker case but different protocols).

The clinic I approached for second opinion are based in new York (Centres for Human Reproduction) and have now diagnosed me with 'PREMATURE OVARIAN AGING (POA)’ based on all my blood tests and scans.

The main bits of the second opinion report are as follows:-

“This diagnosis was reached based on her LOW AMH LEVEL of 2.4 nmol /L, LOW ANTRAL COUNT and VERY LOW TOTAL TESTOSTERONE.

We would stimulate a POA patient with higher medication dosage. We also would NOT stimulate a woman with POA with a LONG AGONIST PROTOCOL because suppressing ovaries in women with already LOW FUNCTIONAL OVARIAN RESERVE makes little sense.”

Here’s my view on this:-

The good news - my current clinic are stimulating me with the highest dose of medication. So they are at least aligned on this bit.

The bad news - my current clinic are following the Long protocol whereas the clinic in New York are saying that it makes little sense to do so. @Jane1284 Sounds like you are on the right protocol so wanted to let you know so you have some comfort.

I had consultation with create clinic as well who were pushing for short protocol with medium dosage.

Believe it it not, I’m going to seek a 4th (and final) opinion. I’m doing this to make sure my next cycle is the correct protocol for my situation and not just putting my body through so much and wasting money on something that’s not right for me.

The research continues .... xxx

Not sure why some of the text above is in bold (haha).

Sorry for typo ( *Sinker = similar)

Hi ladies,

I hope you're all doing well! I'm only on day 4 of down regulation so still have 2 weeks until my scan. I'm so paranoid about the nasal spray, that I'm not doing it right, even though I've taken nasal sprays for things in the past with no problems, I mean, how can I really go wrong?? Lol.

Sorry if you've discussed this already but I've been so swamped at work I may have missed it but, has anyone been told to isolate at any point? At my nurse planning appointment they said to isolate once I start injecting (to work from home). They said they don't provide a sick note or anything, it's just a recommendation. But I'm a primary school teacher and can't work from home! Feeling a bit stressed about it.

@Sweets208 thanks for sharing. I am so sorry you have had such an awful year. As @EasterBunny7 said, i haven't ever been pregnant, so i can only empathise with how horrible it must be to have 3 MC in a year. Your emotions and your body have taken a real battering. I really hope this next cycle is very positive for you. We will be going through it at the same time so I will be looking forward to hearing how you are getting on. Thank you for your encouragement- I will try stay positive. I know my numbers are bad and 2 follicles is a crappy starting point, however I am focusing on one good egg. Fingers crossed!

@BrandyM thanks for that update. Really interesting to hear. I wonder if your current clinic went with long protocol since you have a decent number of follicles to start? I'm no expert but with low AMH it sounds like 6 follicles is not a bad starting point. Especially when you consider the drugs should stimulate more?
I'm not sure if they are just trying to spare my feelings but my clinic haven' diagnosed me with premature ovarian aging (thought that is clearly what I have). They have been very honest though and told me they would only expect to get only 5 follicles from me after stimulation so I think I am on a completely different level to everyone else when others are expecting 10-20. Just got to hope they are decent quality even if low in number.

I have heard that some people with low AMH respond better to lower stimulation. They get less eggs but better quality. I think this is what Create focus on. But I have also read that a lot of doctors don't rate mild IVF as they say that IVF is a numbers game and you have less success with lower numbers of follicles. I guess at the end of the day all our bodies are different and we want to see that our clinics look at our results and adjust treatment for us accordingly. I hope Kings do that for me as i would like to stay with the same clinic however I will definitely look into Create and the more natural approach if this does not go well. Good luck with your 4th opinion. I am impressed that you are getting so many. x

@Ellie42567 we haven't been told to isolate at all and haven't had any covid tests as part of treatment. We have chosen to isolate between collection and transfer (next week - eek!) but haven't been told or advised to. I think different parts of the country may be different? I am in an area with very very low covid cases.

@dragonfly1978 Thank you for your reply. Omg how exciting that it's all happening next week! I will keep my fingers crossed for you!! That's a good idea, perhaps I'll just take between collection and transfer. My headteacher is really supportive, I'm sure she won't mind a week. I felt a bit uncomfortable asking for 3! Hehe.

Best of luck for next week!

I've been told to self isolate from the day 9 scan until egg transfer, not just me my daughter and husband too, I said did they expect me to take her out of school and they said yes! I thought it's was a bit extreme