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Clomid cycle1

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twopinkies · 06/03/2020 08:05

Hi ,

I've taken my second tablet on my first cycle and wondering if anyone is due to start there's soon or are around the same time as me?

I know there's already a clomid thread but I think I'd get pretty lost as I'm new to this so was hoping for people to keep each other occupied as we wait in anticipation!
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ktl1a · 07/05/2020 16:56

@Etonmess20 so excited that you have your scan booked! Fab news! I remember you talking about it at the start of the cycle so really pleased for you. Sorry you had a rough time with the infection but glad you've ended up with positive news, hopet it goes well.
I'm waiting to find out if my private consultant will prescribe me clomid in time for my next cycle. Had day 21 bloods taken today, hoping the lab will process them (it's not 100% definite), so will hopefully find out next week.
Hope your doing well, are you going to be testing next week?

@PukkaTeaAddict hi! I'm not on clomid yet but hoping to get it soon, fingers crossed for your first cycle!

Etonmess20 · 07/05/2020 17:02

@ktl1a I had kind of pushed it to the back of my mind as it wasn't going to happen but them ringing me has made me realise how much more reassured I'll feel.
Ah fingers crossed you get a clomid prescription, least it's will give you something to get on with during lockdown & feel like you're making some progress!
Other than some residual kidney pain I'm doing very well thank you, how are you?
Probably no testing for me next week, I generally don't as I find the disappointment really hard to deal with - especially as I've never had a BFP. Although when you see so many people on here with chemicals etc it does make me wonder whether maybe I should, what's your thoughts?

ktl1a · 07/05/2020 17:12

@Etonmess20 it will fab to give you some reassurance.

Yeah would be great to try it as I feel like the chances of anything happening on it's own are so low :(

Ok here thanks, roughly on 7dpo and literally have no symptoms but I supoose that's expected either way but can't help thinking I'm out already. My cycles are between 25 to 31 days so I won't test till I get to day 32, I got my BFP in December at days 32 and it was a strong second line. Can't stand seeing a negative test so I don't do then early.

I think it's best to just do whatever works for you, if you can go without testing then definitly do, some people are serial testers and just can't help themselves but it must be so disappointing each time they get a negative, also when they have a CP.

Etonmess20 · 07/05/2020 17:32

@ktl1a it's so difficult isn't it, I feel like that now after so long TTC ☹️

Ah you're 3 days ahead of me, when you got your BFP in December had you felt any symptoms? If yes, I suppose it's difficult because every month now you compare to how you felt then!
With the testing I agree, the negative is too much for me, this is why I'm looking forward to having the scan, because at least if my tubes are blocked/partially blocked it explains why I've never had a BFP. Constant battle not to be negative but very difficult some days!!

ktl1a · 07/05/2020 17:44

@Etonmess20 my main symptom was tender boobs from 1dpo but that's too early to mean anything so it's made me wonder if my progesterone levels were better that month resulting in a better quality egg but that is grasping at straws tbh. Other than that everything seemed absolutely normal except I didn't get spotting in the days leading up to when I expected my AF, in fact I had no spotting throughout the pregnancy, hence I thought everything was going well until the scan showed otherwise, beyond devastating. I am constantly hoping things will replicate that cycle but I know every pregnancy can be different so I end up just torturing myself.

I know exactly what you mean, strangely after trying for so long we want there to be a reason so that we can fix it and then get our sticky baby, I was shocked to find out everything was fine. That being said my HSG last year showed 1 tube blocked and the other one only filled under high pressure, the consultant then did a lap/dye/hysteroscopy to check it out thoroughly and turns out tubes were actually fine and they had just spasmed during the HSG. It was good news that tubes were fine but also I kind of wanted it to be something like that so we knew what was causing it! TTC makes you crazy!

Etonmess20 · 07/05/2020 18:47

@ktl1a I can't even imagine how horrible that must have been ☹️ so sorry for your loss.
Yeah I completely agree, I want there to be a reason so it can be fixed & then everything will be fine. That's really good to know about your experience with the HSG then the lap & dye. How did you find the HSG?
It honestly does make you so crazy, I am now at the point I don't like to hear about people's pregnancies at all really, which feels horrible to even be like that!
Suppose we just have to remain positive that we have eachother to talk to (cus it's incredibly isolating I find) & we have always got hope that we'll get that BFP & sticky baby very soon 🤞🏻

PukkaTeaAddict · 07/05/2020 19:18

Hi @Etonmess20 and @ktl1a!

My husband and I have been trying for just over a year, we've had all the usual tests (plus a few more private blood tests) and the only thing that has come back is that my husband's morphology is 2%, but apart from that there isn't anything to explain why we haven't got pregnant yet!

I've been really struggling with it all to be honest, and we have decided that we don't want IVF, so we are already looking into adoption options (I know it's still early days- but I feel like I just can't cope with living in 2 week windows for much longer!). Then with Covid-19 coming around, we won't be able to get an appointment with a doctor to talk about next steps. So I found an online doctor/pharmacy that seems very legit, you have to give GP details and it is all regulated with the right certificates and everything, and after an online consultation I managed to get 2 cycles of clomid from there. I'm thinking this is a last ditch attempt for a few months and then we will go down the adoption route more seriously.

I appreciate other people will have been trying for longer, and I honestly don't know how you do it as I really can't cope!!

Sorry for the essay! What are both of your stories?

Etonmess20 · 07/05/2020 19:41

@PukkaTeaAddict did you have more than one SA? My partner had a motility figure that was lower than they'd have liked before that was then twice as high a 6 weeks later (no lifestyles changes)

Do you mind me asking why you definitely don't want IVF?
Good luck with the clomid, I'm in my first cycle at the moment & haven't experienced many side effects. Have you seen advice saying take it at night? Apparently it stops the hot flushes throughout the day & you sleep through some symptoms 😀

DP & I have been trying for around 18 months now TTC #1, every test has come back fine & i now have a 4 month clomid prescription so fingers crossed! I completely get that you feel fed up with it all, it is quite disheartening at times!

ktl1a · 07/05/2020 20:18

@Etonmess20 it's definitly isolating, we had kept it quiet until the miscarriage, now our family know but they didn't struggle with ttc so don't know what to say. I am incredily bitter when I find out people I kmow are pregnant, it's horrible as I'm not usually like this but I think because it is something we can't control it makes it so hard not to be. Everyone around me seems to be pregnant at the moment and I end up feeling so miserable that I feel so negative about them when I know I wouldn't want it to be like that if the shoe was on the other foot.
The HSG seems to be different for everyone so i don't want to scare you as it may be absolutely fine for you (apprantly for some people it's just like a smear) but for me it wasn't a great experience, the plus side is it doesn't last long. And I would do it again now if it would help me get pregnant bur unfortunately it didn't help on my occasion (but the lap/dye was a miracle op). I'm sure everything will be great for you :) Definitly nice to have someone to chat to about it. Can you remind me why your consultant prescribed clomid? Do you ovulate regularly? Sorry i can't remember what you said originally.

Hi @PukkaTeaAddict Sounds like your in a similar place to us, why did you get your clomid from? If my consultant won't prescribe it I am looking to source some myself. Did your progesterone levels show that you are ovulating regularly? My husband's SA results were similar, he's had 3 tests done and everything was great except the morphology which was 3%, they aren't concerned as it is the overall picture that matters rather than the one figure but I still have him on vitamins in the small hope that they may help keep everything good.

I am 100% with you in that it's hard to cope, I often have mlments where I just cry. I'm pretty much always a hormonal cow and tbh I definitly have a bit or depression going on too. The simple way I get through it is that i haven't got a choice, I want to have a family and want to max out all options before I look at other options. IVF is scary but I knoe someone who went through it recently and was successful on her third attempt, she is actually due soon!

I had been trying for 18 months and after bloods, scans, HSG and then finally lap/dye/hysteroscopy i finally had my BFP in December, I saw our baby's heart beat at an early private scan at 6.5 weeks but noticed at 10 weeks that I wasn't feeling sick anymore so decided to have another scan and found out that his/her heart bad stopped beating. Utterly devastating! Just the worst moment of my life. To have come this far and it to be snatched away from me. And now I'm back to the start and feel like it may never happen again. Try to stay positive but I don't have much left in me tbh. Want clomid to hopefully help improve ovulation and if that doesn't work will move on to either IUI or IVF, need to discuss that with my consultant but that won't be till later in the year unfortunately.

Sorry for the long post, I can talk and talk when I get going!

Etonmess20 · 07/05/2020 20:26

@ktl1a sorry to hear you have a bit of a rubbish experience with HSG, always nice to be prepared with some advice from real people!
It's such a difficult topic to talk to family & friends about, other than my best friend no one else knows. I am very lucky that I work for a large company who are very employee focused so there hasn't been any difficult questions & I also lived a few hours away from family so see them less so have less questions.
We have proof I have ovulated from an ultrasound I had & various blood tests etc & periods are always very regular so doesn't seem to be any problems there. The dr who prescribed me the clomid said I would likely experience super ovulation, so fingers crossed there's some nice sticky ones in there!!

ktl1a · 07/05/2020 20:35

Oh interesting, that's exactly what I'm hoping will happen if I take it! It's nice to keep it quiet so people don't expect it but can be so lonely. Honestly my experience with the HSG may be completely different to yours, perhaps my tubes spasming may have caused the pain, I would say to take some painkillers before as a precaution

Etonmess20 · 07/05/2020 20:43

@ktl1a yeah I definitely will do, whether it's pleasant or unpleasant it has to be done so it is what it is!
Hopefully you'll get your clomid soon & you'll be ready to super ovulate!!!!

ktl1a · 07/05/2020 20:54

I'm sure it will be fine for you :) Very exciting! Yes hopefully will find out next week, otherwise i will try to source it myself. Fingers crossed for us both!

PukkaTeaAddict · 07/05/2020 21:52

@Etonmess20 we've only had one SA, I didn't realise that it could change so much! I feel like if we got another one done it still wouldn't make that much difference, unless something came back wrong as it looks like we are headed down the "unexplained infertility" route.
I've read that IVF only works 30% of the time which isn't the best odds, then that coupled with what you have to go through, in terms of the procedures, hormones and heartache, along with the fact that you only get one on the NHS. I've always wanted a big family, and I'm not sure how I'd feel going through IVF and then adopting, and paying for it privately is not an option!! Also, I've always seen adoption as an option, my auntie is adopted, as well as family friends, so I guess it's always been in the back of my mind as a back up to the natural way of having children!

I have seen the advice around taking it at night so I've been taking it just before I go to sleep!

What day are you on? I haven't got any hot flushes yet (touch wood!)

PukkaTeaAddict · 07/05/2020 22:02

@ktl1a oh god that sounds awful! I can't imagine how bad that must have felt, especially after hearing the heartbeat! I know the feeling of hating on pregnant women as well, it's horrible! I want to feel good for my friends who are getting pregnant and having babies, but it's so hard to keep the green monster at bay. Thank god we are in lockdown at the moment, as I've definitely had some moments recently where I've managed to keep it together over the phone, but would not have been able to hide it in my face if we had been face to face!

We got the clomid from https://www.instantecare.co.uk. It is a little expensive and it took a couple of days for us to get the prescription approved, but we were just honest in the questions asked and it just arrived in the post a few days later!

My progesterone levels are all normal, it is on the high side (not sure if that means anything!). What is your consultant waiting for?

What vitamins does your husband take? I've got mine on the wellman vitamins, and more recently cinnamon as I read that it improved morphology in a study with male rats 😂. I'm also taking L'Arganine as I read that it helps thicken the womb lining.

ktl1a · 07/05/2020 22:18

@PukkaTeaAddict it was horrible but strangely I wouldn't change the fact that we got pregnant, no matter what happened I was so happy for that short period of time. I looked at that website previously, will take another look.
Can you remember what your day 21 levels were? I have had two done, one was 57.6 (which they said was good) and the other was 30.5 (which they said was ok but not ideal), just waiting for the results of our third one (although the lab may not run it due to covid, we are just hoping we get lucky).
DH is on vitamin C with zinc, vitamin B complex, a multi vitamin and pine bark extract (which is supposedly good for morphology). I am on folic acid, vitamin B complex, ubiquinol (for egg quality) and vitamin E (for lining). I also have red raspberry leaf tea and pomegranate juice up until ovulation to improve lining. Although i don't know if any of this works!

PukkaTeaAddict · 07/05/2020 22:40

@ktl1a that is such a lovely way of thinking about it, it must take a lot of strength to turn the experience around! I feel like such a wreck and I haven't even come close to experiencing something like that.

My day 21 levels were 60.3. Maybe it's not so high, I'm not sure. Doctor just said it was "normal". I'm a bit of an avid researcher, so I did a lot of googling around the level, convinced myself I was pregnant that month and then got another BFN.

I haven't heard of pine bark extract, I'll look into it! I feel like supplements and vitamins can't hurt, and at least it makes me feel like I'm doing something!

Chrissy338 · 07/05/2020 22:44

I have the dye through my tubes to check they was clear and I ain’t gunna lie it absolutely killed me, hurt so much I nearly told them to stop but I travelled to oxford to have it done so gritted my teeth & thought why I was having it done ... ppl are different tho , just my experience

I send you all good luck :)
Hope you get a BFP

Hosrom37 · 08/05/2020 04:12

Hey everyone, I'm new here. Recently started clomid first cycle 100MG, currently on 3dpo. The only symptoms I'm having are bloating, gas sore nipple and I'm still having cramps. Cramps were bad on ovulation day. Since then they've been mild. Did anybody else cramp heavily ovulation day?

Etonmess20 · 09/05/2020 12:18

@Chrissy338 thank you for sharing how it was for you, I'd rather hear how people have found it & be prepared for how bad it could be. Least then if it's better then I'll be pleasantly surprised. Was it while they were doing it that it hurt? Did it hurt after?

@Hosrom37 welcome!! What's your story? How long have you been TTC etc?
I did have some ovulation pains but not horrendous, have cramped a fair bit the past few days though & 6dpo today

ktl1a · 09/05/2020 12:52

@Etonmess20 I found it hurt whikst it was being done, worst bit was when they pushed the dye through but as soon as they finished the pain went completely so it is very short lived. But have heard other people didn't have any pain.

Etonmess20 · 09/05/2020 12:53

@ktl1a thank you! Like I say, hope for the best but expect the worst & you'll never go far wrong!
How are you today?

ktl1a · 09/05/2020 12:57

Definitly! I was prepared for it and would definitly do it again if it helped but on my occasion it didn't. That being said a lot of people say it can help things stick for a few months after the procedure so hopefully that combined with clomid will be a brilliant combination for you!
I'm fine thanks, just willing the days away until I know if anythings happened this cycle, tbh I feel like I'm out, just no symptoms at all. How about you?

Etonmess20 · 09/05/2020 13:05

@ktl1a fingers crossed! Hopefully I should get the confirmation letter from the secretary early next week so should know where I need to go & have confirmation of date & time!
I do have a few symptoms tbh, but whether they're pregnancy symptoms or clomid symptoms...who knows! Sore/sensitive nipples, bit bloaty & slightly crampy & feeling sick on & off. Trying not to over think!!!

Chrissy338 · 09/05/2020 13:57

Yeah while they we’re doing it , it hurt so much .. after I had abit of spotting blood and a bad belly but only lasted about a day or two x

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