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Come on Clomid! Thread 2019 v3

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ClomidCarrow · 13/09/2019 11:28

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DobbieFreeElf · 10/10/2019 18:07

As an after thought @Goingbacktokansascity you don’t suppose the clomid has messed with the opk do you?

Chichz · 10/10/2019 18:11

@Marmite83 thanks - looks like I'll need a few more boxes then! Grin

Has anyone ever taken Clomid and then NOT had a period after (apart from if pregnant!)? My cycles have been awful lately and not sure what to do if I don't come on for some reason...

Helena112 · 10/10/2019 18:47

@Chichz my first round of 50mg Clomid didn't make me ovulate, so I didn't get a period Sad on day 33 I started my next round of clomid 100mg ! I'm currently on Cycle day 12 of the no bleed cycle.. (counted day one of clomid as cycle day 3!) no positive ovulation test yet :( I don't hold much hope for it working either!! I think most doctors suggest a forced bleed after cycle day 35. Xxx

seven201 · 10/10/2019 19:03

@Goingbacktokansascity i think @DobbieFreeElf has a really good point there. It could well be just the clomid in your system still. I've had really dark opk sticks on day 9-10ish when on clomid, but that wasn't a true positive as got that a week ish later.

Chichz · 10/10/2019 19:13

@Helena112 that's interesting! How many rounds of Clomid manage you got, and are you being monitored? I'm sure it will kick in soon- 3 seems to be the magic number in fertility!

I have just been given the 4 months and effectively discharged, as passed on to IVF clinic... not sure I'd want to be taking it that long with no period though. X

Chichz · 10/10/2019 19:14

Have you got, sorry. Must remember to preview!

Helena112 · 10/10/2019 20:01

@Chichz well this is my last chance on the NHS ! If my day 21 blood test, a week tomorrow, doesn't show ovulation they are just passing me onto IVF ! Seems really unfair just 2 months of clomid :( especially as one was started without a bleed.

The only monitoring has been a day 21 blood test. I'd of loved a scan as I feel my ovaries do become tender but don't release the egg! I've also booked a private appointment for the end of the month, so I hope I can get on the NHS IVF waiting list and still have clomid privately ! I'm not sure I'm allowed to!

What tracking have you been offered? Surely they can't send you home with 4 months supply and no tracking !! ConfusedHmm

Chichz · 10/10/2019 20:31

@Helena112 Wow, you poor thing. Will you get IVF on the NHS? Sorry if you're repeating things here - I'm not sure of everyone's situations, having missed the first few threads! BlushGrin

The Clomid for me was a complete afterthought of the consultant and it was his junior doctor who prescribed it after I'd asked for Provera. Basically, a super busy afternoon at Salford Royal gyne unit and I think as they'd already advised us to go straight to IVF, then this isn't really part of the treatment... if that makes sense! Think I will need to self-track to see if it makes me ovulate.

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DobbieFreeElf · 10/10/2019 20:49

I was sent off with 3 months’ pills and no bloods or scans. Same for us as it was me who suggested clomid (they had already signed us off and told us we should go for ivf)

Helena112 · 10/10/2019 20:56

@Chichz I think clomid is well worth a try before IVF, lots of success story's 💖 I wonder why the doctor didn't think of it without the JR doctor ?! Seems to be the first step for most couples with fertility struggles!

I hope we get IVF on the NHS I've not really looked into it yet but Id be surprised if we don't! I'm 28 and we don't have any children. Will you qualify on the NHS?

I came off the pill last June, had a regular cycle and we fell pregnant in October! But sadly it ended in a missed miscarriage on New Year's Eve 💔 12 week scan baby only measured 8 weeks. Heartbreaking to say the least! my cycle hasn't retuned since! Took the GP months to refer me to the hospital. First appointment was in August, had the all clear with a HSG to start the clomid. I'm just disappointed they will only let me have 2 months worth 😤 but the private doctor might have another plan yet!

Chichz · 10/10/2019 21:04

That sounds very similar @DobbieFreeElf. Have you been having periods with it?

@Helena112 I'm so sorry. That must be heartbreaking. My HSG wasn't clear which is why they're referring us for IVF - combination of at least partially blocked tubes, PCOS and some sperm issues. Confused

You should definitely qualify but sounds like your doc doesn't think it will come to that, which is good! Check your area - it varies from 1-3 cycles on the NHS. Xx

seven201 · 10/10/2019 21:24

@Helena112 I wasn't making much progress with the nhs. Paid £120 for a private consultation and came away with a 3 month prescription for clomid. I was over the moon! It didn't work for me in the end but I don't regret spending that money to try. Just saying I think your plan to see a private dr might be a good one. Even the private doctor didn't offer me any for of tracking. I did pay for some in the end after asking when I had some complications.

I can't see why you wouldn't qualify for ivf on the nhs. They might be fussy about how long between you falling pregnant and going on the waiting list. Sorry about your mmc.

DobbieFreeElf · 10/10/2019 21:31

@Chichz yes, we’ll this is only my second cycle but month one was exactly the same as without clomid. To be fair, I don’t have any problem ovulating, only that I ovulate late (peak opk 16-18) and I start spotting around day 24-26. I had done all the research and clomid has helped women with a short luteal phase, like me, which is why I pushed for it.

The consultant has pointed the finger at my husband’s sperm (only 16mill but good quality) however I still can’t understand how with DS1 we fell straight away and again straight away when he was 9 months old and dropped a breastfeed, that was a miscarriage at 10 weeks. But that’s 2 years ago now! Since then everything’s screwed! (Although I fell pregnant once more last summer but miscarried again at about 8/9 weeks.)

I don’t think husband’s swimmers could have dramatically changed and my body was obviously working fine until that first miscarriage.

The sceptic inside me thinks that the ERPC did something that their not admitting!!!

DobbieFreeElf · 10/10/2019 21:32

Sorry, got on a bit of a rant there! Grin

Chichz · 10/10/2019 21:37

@DobbieFreeElf wow - what a journey you've been on! So sorry for the mmc. I suppose we have to remember through all this that conceiving is only half the battle, but it should give hope.

I'm not overly familiar with leutal phases etc, in fact I wouldn't be surprised if I've never ovulated in my life! But it sounds like Clomid works well for what you need it for. What's the plan when you finish your 3 months, if needed? X

Chichz · 10/10/2019 21:39

And yes I was thinking that, but I liked it! Grin This is definitely the place for ranting.

DobbieFreeElf · 10/10/2019 22:11

@Chichz Thank you, sorry it’s just so frustrating but it’s lovely to be able to let some of that out here!

The 3 rounds of clomid will take us to December and we’re spending 6 weeks in Oz over Xmas. Beginning of Jan I’m going straight to the Ivf clinic. If we weren’t going to Australia I think I might have already given up and gone for ivf. Although we will have to pay for it as we have DS already.

What sperm issues have you guys got?

Chichz · 10/10/2019 22:19

Oh wow, have an amazing time in Oz @DobbieFreeElf! Very jealous. Sounds like you're all ready to get going then. Guess it's all a bit quicker when you have to pay for it! Grin Though I always think that's a shame.

Sperm count was a bit low - about 50% of what it should have been. What a pair me and the mister are eh! Haha. X

DobbieFreeElf · 10/10/2019 22:28

It’s all so hard! I feel like seeking out my RS teacher from school and telling her she obviously lied about having sex and being instantly pregnant! (She was about 123 years old, with a moustache, so I doubt she’d had sex in this or the last century!)

I was thinking to myself the other day that OH and I had discussed, very early in our relationship and before we were married, that if we didn’t fall pregnant within a year of trying (for number one) we would start looking into adoption straight away... we never did discuss number 2 though, I guess we didn’t think of you can have 1 then you’ll have 2! Have you ever thought about/ discussed any other options? (Sorry I cant make this question not sound like I’m suggesting you should, which I’m not, please read it in the “I’m just interested to know” way it’s intended Grin)

Smile08 · 10/10/2019 23:11

Hi Everyone,

I'm new to this forum but needed to find somewhere for advice and support seeing as my family are unaware of our struggles.

I have been TTC for 2 and a half years now. I have gone through the various NHS tests. They found that I had PCOS. My husband has low morphology but only by 1% and doctor thinks it should not affect anything.

Blood tests show I don't ovulate, I've had the HSG which was fine and so now the doctor has prescribed me one month of Clomid 50mg. I have completed the course for this month and I have my internal scan booked for Tuesday which will be day 12.

I don't do much tracking, my periods usually last 35 days and with me not ovulating I have never bothered with OPK.
Do you think I should start OPK for this month? Was planning to just do every other day once I get the go ahead on Tuesday.

It's starting to get to me recently, and it doesn't help that my husbands nephew has just announced they are expecting in April. I don't want to be the one who gets upset by someone else's great news but I can't help but wish I didn't know. I'm stressed enough dealing with this never mind having to talk about how exciting it is for someone else to be having a baby.

We are doing Clomid for 3 months then after that we can get 3 cycles of IVF. I've noticed a few people say they are on the list for IVF and doing Clomid. Is this something I can do? I've put off IVF but feel like if it shortens the wait I could try get on a list for now.

Sorry for the long message, feels good to get it off my chest though.

Thank you :)

DobbieFreeElf · 11/10/2019 06:15

Hey @Smile08 welcome to the party!

If I were you I would, just to understand where you’re at a little more, and if you find you’re not ovulating you can skip a couple of months ahead to the ivf.

I recommend the clear blue dual hormone ovulation test, it’s not the cheapest but there is no question over the outcome with it. The cheapest place to buy, I’ve found, is the dr. fertility website, and they post really fast too! (I normally buy some fertility lube or vitamins at the same time to get free delivery!!) I just checked and for a 35 day cycle they recommend starting to test on day 15 so you have time to start this month. Obviously there are cheaper opks but I do find that they often cause confusion. Testing every other day isn’t ideal as your LH surge, which is what an opk is testing for only lasts a very short time. I found this whilst looking for the testing start date which is helpful if you can be bothered to do some reading: images-eu.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/C1THFLjIJZS.pdf

Welcome!

Smile08 · 11/10/2019 10:30

@DobbieFreeElf Thanks for your response.

I was just going to test on the days we DTD but your right I may miss the peak days.

I'll look into the Clearblue OPK kit, seems like a more straightforward one to use. Do I go off my old 35 day cycle or am I supposed to now class my period as a usual 28 day one because of the Clomid interference?

I just hope the 50mg has been a strong enough dose. Fingers crossed. I don't feel any different, did not get any side effects really. Did anyone else just feel the same during their Clomid months?

I will ask about getting another appointment to discuss getting on the IVF list whilst still taking this prescription. I know how difficult it is to get appointments so be best to try now.

:)

CharlotteCx · 11/10/2019 11:12

@Smile08 hi hun. I am finished my first 50mg Clomid this month. According to my blazing positive opks & static smileys on the CB opks I was at my peak ovulation last weekend CD14.. i usually have a longer cycle due to pcos around 33/36 days but I think the clomid must have regulated me. I too didn't have many symptoms at all, the worst it got for me was two hot flushes in the middle of the night twice but nothing major at all.

My ovarys felt so tender last weekend and I got the watery CM etc, along with the positive opks . But my BBT dipped and rose again but then has dipped again so I think my body geared up to ovulate but didn't actually release an egg. Cd21 bloods will confirm that next week.

I think the Clomid do regulate your cycle to a 28 day cycle 😊

Smile08 · 11/10/2019 12:01

@CharlotteCx

It's good to hear that I'm not the only one with few symptoms. Made me worry it maybe isn't going to work.

Did you go for an internal scan on CD12? I have mine on Tuesday and have no idea what they are going to say. Last time I had one they said I had a large follicle and should ovulate. But obviously I don't naturally ovulate so never happened. Will they be able to tell if I'm going to ovulate or is that impossible.

I have blood tests on CD21 too, is it them that show if you ovulated? The doctor has told me all this but don't think I've ever fully understood.

Thanks :)

CharlotteCx · 11/10/2019 12:05

@Smile08 I thought that because I didn't have many symptoms it wasn't working but something is deffo working coz of the tenderness in my ovarys and the positive opks. I've just again got a flashing smiley on a opk so I was right my body geared up to last week but failed so is trying again now.. flashing smiley means your fertile window has opened.

I didn't get any offers of a scan 🙁 .. my gyno told me that I wouldn't on 50mg as they aren't that strong. But yes a cd21 bloods will tell you if you have ovulated or not as the results come in numbers so over 10 is good x