Keith's BPG II

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@AliciaWhiskers @CornishMaid1 @Ginandtonic31 @Cauliflower82 @Welshpugmomma @Mrbay @Zest11 @RRoonilWazlib @Weenumpty

Hope this works xx

Ooo @Crumpets124 I don't k ow who you are if you've name changed but I did have a bad first round!

@Welshpugmomma I don't think you're too late. You could get through the videos easily. I've still some to get through. I went to the NHS class last night which only covered half of it really but what I did find reassuring is that my local hospital are advocates for it so I won't feel a prat if I take a candle now 😂😂😂 I need my OH half to watch the videos with me though so I'm also short on time.

My NHS due date is 11th March but my ivf date 13th so I always tell people it's 13th. I'm not under a consultant so will be left as midwife led so normal decisions re going over. Although did I mention my heart was going weird? I've got to have a 24-hour ecg as it's adding in beats! So I might end up back under a consultant.

@KittyKatSmile I want to know what Crystal is up to!!

Aw that's good then I may start the online course then have a bit more guidance :)

yes my NHS date is 11th and ivf 16th, but we've gone with the NHS date due to the baby being a bit bigger, my obgyn told me he won't let me go over 40 weeks at all... Everyone in my group has gone early they love induction and obv a few planned sections. I'm sure Cauli said her due date was potentially 11th too! That would be funny if we all stuck to it 😁

Good luck with ecg, I notice at times my heart beat is quite irregular but it's never been looked into my brother got diagnosed recently with a heart condition but it's congenital and nobody has been bothered about it when I've mentioned...

My friend was consultant led and said there was literally no difference I think she said consultant popped in once to ask how she was but otherwise I guess her name just appeared on a diff board! It depends massively on each case I guess :)

@Crumpets124 I hope the next few weeks go quickly for you so you can get to your next round. After my first one failed I read this mammoth piece on failed IVF. I found it super helpful in ruling out things although it could easily have just been one of those things and I was just lucky second time. www.fertilityfriends.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=283000.0 I did find @KittyKatSmile's protein advice helpful and someone on here recommended an Asda protein sports drink too.

@mouse1234567 Thinking of you - you muat be so very close to the 20 week scan if you have not had it already. Good luck!!

@Mrbay I hope things are going okay for you and you are getting ready for transfer. Sending you lots of luck xx

So many of you are what, 6-8 weeks away now from meeting your babies! That is just so so exciting! Hope you are all doing okay and your bumps are not too uncomfortable yet. Would love to hear everyones' updates but I guess you are just waiting for time to pass (I know I am and I'm only 17wks )!

not much to update on my end, I've had my final injection, my lining check was a pass so I'm booked in for FET in a few days time. Feeling very guilty as I was a stress free run up and TWW but it doesn't look likely due to a MIA/loss in our friendship group and it has hit DH very badly. (totally outed myself with this one I think)

I'm not sure what to say to him as I'm a bit too black and white about things and his friends aren't around so he's not had any face to face time with them.

@Mrbay oh I'm so sorry. That must be so so tough for you both. I wouldn't know what to say to him either, I guess just be there for him as he mourns. Maybe keep him busy doing things at the weekenda but equally he probably needs the time to grieve. I don't think you'll be able to tell what the impact will be on this next IVF but I guess you have the reassurance that you have more rounds available to you. If you were paying I guess it would be worth thinking whether or not to go through or delay but as you're not, that doesn't matter! I hope the transfer is nice and easy for you xx

Hello all. I keep losing this thread so sorry for going awol all the time.

We were due to start FET this cycle, but me being a total dumbass didn't read the instructions properly and I ended up taking the norithesterone and forgot to start the buserelin. FFS!! Period started today so we are starting on day 19 of this cycle now. I feel such a tit. Also I've just burst into tears for no reason at all this week. All these hormones are horrible.

How is everyone doing?

@KittyKatSmile I saw your post about you going to school with DP. I wasn't at that school, but I wonder if we do actually know each other. It's quite a weird thought, that of all the people in all the world, we could end up on the same thread having IVF at the same time.

Anyway!

Hey all

DP is working through everything now, his friends have returned from there search so they've been able to catch up. It doesn't help that nearly everyday there is a new news article and they currently do not have a body so its difficult for everyone to find closure.

We've had our FET, but the embryo didn't thaw as expected so it may not even work, but as we were at the transfer stage, they recommend to continue as there is still a chance but the odds are slightly reduced. As there isn't a huge chance of this transfer being successful, I'm less worried about counting the days!

@AliciaWhiskers - oh please don't beat yourself up. Remember I only injected 0.05mls of buserlin on my first round not 0.5ml!

Ok I need excuses for not drinking tomorrow, its very much a hip flask during the day and port at lunch, then wine later type of day - any ideas??!

Hi everyone

Wow, I’ve missed so much. Again. It’s been a tough couple of weeks with but I’ve decided to finish work early and it’s made all of the difference.

@Mrbay I’ll be keeping you in my thoughts and really hoping for the best for you and your husband. I hope he’s doing okay by the way - that sounds like an awful lot to deal with.
Re: drinking. I always just told people I’d prefer a coke 😂. I’m rubbish with excuses. Mind, a lot of the time I do just prefer coke. It’s been my biggest craving during this whole thing - coke and tomatoes 🍅.

@Zest11 it’s always so good to see an update from you and to hear that everything is going well. When will your baby be born? How is the pregnancy going? I’m 33+4 now and the hardest time I still think is those 12 weeks. After 20 though, that’s when I totally started to chill - mentally, not so much physically 😂. Pip is a big boy!

@Welshpugmomma yes, 11th too if I go through with induction. 18th if I don’t according to nhs but it’s really the 19th ivf date. I’m starting to read more about induction and it’s starting to scare me 😳. We had our birthing antenatal class the other day and I had to leave twice because I was so emotional 😭. I’d had in my mind what I wanted birth wise but it’s all went to pot - severely anaemic and considered high risk now for bleeding. Anyone else taking those awful iron tablets? Work of the devil! Evil things. I really want Pip to be here at 37/38 weeks.

@Ginandtonic31 ooh so are you having an ecg everyday? I hope everything is okay. How are you finding the latter stage? It sounds that, like me, you struggled more with the earlier stages. Physically I don’t find it easy 😆 but mentally so much so. Physically, I am so weak and I’ve put on so much weight for my tiny 5ft 2 frame. 3 stone quite comfortably now and that’s after the ivf weight gain. It’s mental how it kind of changes every part of your body.
BUT I’ve always had acne and since starting ivf I’ve not had one breakout - my skin is like the best it has ever been. My hair also doesn’t get oily anymore. Pip is doing wonders for my confidence 😂.

@Crumpets124 you should definitely stay on the board with us - this group of people have been an absolute lifeline for me over the past year. Although I’ve become possibly the worst at checking in, I think about each of them frequently (not in a weird stalker Keith kind of way either) but in a ‘I hope they’re okay way’. I think I’ve just made us sound a bit weird 🙊.

@KittyKatSmile yay, you’ve moved!! Are you the first one we’re expecting to have your baby? I’ve lost track of dates. How is the slower pace of life?

Not much to report here people, other than what I’ve done in the thread so far. Ooh, I guess most exciting news is that Pip is just massive - at our last growth scan, 32 weeks he was apparently 4lb 7 and he’s on the 90th percentile now. He’s such an active boy and he’s all ‘engaged’ now. I am getting so excited to meet him - I can’t stop buying him toys 🧸 and blankets. I bought him the sweetest little elephant laundry basket from John Lewis yesterday. In my head I’ve already painted a picture of someone who is an animal conservationist and his whole room kind of depicts that.

I hope I haven’t missed anyone. Thinking of you all and sending lots of hugs 🤗

@KittyKatSmile please let us know what crystalbitchface82 has been up to 😂

Morning all,

Today I can lay in until 8.30 and I'm awake!!

@Cauliflower82 nice to hear from you and sounds like you're doing well. We are all quite close in due date. My ECG is just a 24 hour one. I'm having it put on today and taken off tomorrow then they will just send s report to my doctor. I don't think it's any biggy. Just lots of blood pumping round.

This little one was doing well with her size. Just bobbing along averagely. Then last scan they said she was almost 6lb at 34 weeks! So being scanned every week now to see if she slows down. Still, if she stays that they still predict about 8 and a half lb at birth.

I'm nearly 35 weeks now and feel fine! I've been very lucky. I'm not suffering (yet) and have 4 weeks of work to go. Everyone keeps telling me I look well but I think I look huge. My weight gain is just under 2 stone! But still swimming or at the gym a few evenings a week.

Our nursery progression is slow. Still choosing a cot then still need accessories! I wish I was good at this stuff!

I've finished the online hypnobirthing now and really feel positive. I hope it all goes to plan!!

@Mrbay I'm sorry you're having a rough time. One thing I do remember is that stress doesn't affect whether an embryo will attach or not! So don't add extra pressure with that too!!

@KittyKatSmile yes we are still awaiting this crystal update?!

morning girls,

Thank you for the well wishes @Ginandtonic31 and @Cauliflower82.

G&T you are so right, but its hard not to think that any minor negative stress could be the what if this is what caused it to fail.

i think I may have over done it this weekend as I've had light cramps and back ache, but that could just been the lovely progesterone so who knows.

Luckily I was late to lunch on Saturday so missed the initial round so was able to sneak an orange and lemonade.

I can't wait you you all to be at D-day, nothing quite like new baby smell :)

@Mrbay I don't think cramps and back ache are a bad thing. Try not to worry. When do you test? I remember I went for a bike ride after transfer then was convinced I had screwed it up. I think if it's going to stick it will, whatever. So try not to worry. Don't add extra stress. If it doesn't stick it's nothing you have done!

I'm just doing some baby washing. I think I've over done the vests and bodysuits 🤦🏼‍♀️

@Ginandtonic31 - I'm going to be bad and do a test tonight and then start them daily from then - I'd rather know that its failed sooner rather than later. However, my cervix which is normally lowish is tucked up tight so that can be a positive sign so who knows!

annoyingly my clinic does not offer a beta test, so I'll either have to go private (nearest clinic being an hour away) or beg the GP to do it. Or I could tell my nurse friend that I've lied and she could take blood and I'll send it off to an online place.

any parent will tell you, you cannot have too many!! Anyway they'll look very sweet with @KittyKatSmile's knitting :)

@Ginandtonic31 I'm pretty sure I've overdone the clothes. I'd post a photo but I'm too embarrassed. The good news is that I've finished knitting for all your March babies. Just ones to do now for @Mrbay and @AliciaWhiskers

@Mrbay have got everything crossed for you. How many days pt are you? I'm so sorry to hear what you and DH have been going through. I can't imagine how hard that has been on top of everything else...

I've been to the midwife today and have discussed my birth plan and have got a date for induction. The baby's head has started to engage now. Final stage now. I can hardly believe it. Just trying to get the house in order finally and get everything in its place... and I am considering taking legal action against my employer. I'm still working, they are being terrible. I'm trying not to get upset about it and just focus on my wonderful Tiny Dancer.

@Cauliflower82 so good to read your update. I think about you often lovely lady.

Love to you all ladies xx

Oh Keith you'll have to show us your collection!
I'm 4dp5dt so yes it's too early to test and of course it.was negative!
Yeah it's been a difficult few weeks, you never expect to lose someone just as their life had begun.

You just need to tell them that your last day is X and you would like either to take holiday or start your mat leave. It Sounds like you are going to have to be strict!

Another sleepless night, so thought I’d check in. I’m like a little girl at the minute: scary nightmares and then I’m too scared to close my eyes to doze back off. I keep some Nutella next to my bed for night emergencies and I’ve noticed it went out of date yesterday!!

@KittyKatSmile your employer sounds like just the worst type of person. On a brighter note, your ‘tiny dancer’ - that song is on Pip’s playlist. I find it hard talking to bump so I sing a song to him every night instead. I still have this feeling you’re having a girl, I don’t know why I can’t shift that.

@Mrbay how are you getting on? I hope you and your husband are doing as well as can be expected, and I hope those tests are starting to go pink, although I’m not sure if it’s still too early.

@Ginandtonic31 how are you still gymming it? I can barely get round the field now with my dog 😭 😭. You go, girl!! It worries me how out of breath I am. Apparently it’s down to the anaemia but it seems excessive getting knackered just climbing the stairs. I used to be so fit. Argh never mind. I also did all my washing this week 💕 🤗 his socks are so cute. I’ve noticed pretty much all of Pip’s clothes have dogs on them 😂.

Anyone starting to fear birth a little more now it’s getting closer? I’ve just ordered the hypnobirthing book but in all honesty I’m a massive cynic and kind of have in my head that I’ll go for the strong stuff, although my blood pressure is, as always, low so epidural could be ruled out. I’m usually pretty good at getting myself in the zone but not for like a day with no sleep.

On a brighter note, an old friend I met in my clinic by chance on her test date and one of my very many ‘checking to see if I’d finally shut down’ scan dates had her baby girl yesterday! She came at 37 weeks and weighs almost 7lbs, she’s gorgeous too.

@Cauliflower82 honestly, hypnobirthing has really taken the fear out of it for me! I know I don't want anything more than gas and air if I can help it as I don't want the drip and catheter and on the bed position that comes with an epidural. I know it could all change but for now I'm feeling confident in myself that I can do it! Try to be open minded to the hypnobirthing and practice the breathing etc

@Cauliflower82 my midwife also thinks I'm having a girl! Tiny's head has now engaged (gulp) and the difference it makes to my lungs is brilliant! I suspect I could exercise now if I wanted to. Only I don't really :-)

You should get the book 'The positive birth book'. I am hugely sceptical about hypnobirthing too but this books takes you through all of your options and really clarified things for me (it's not about hypnobirthing btw).

@Mrbay sadly the issue with work isn't about when my mat leave starts but more of a potential constructive dismissal type of case. I'm trying not to dwell on it and just think of Tiny and my health for now.

@Zest11 how are you doing?

@Cauliflower82 - oh how exciting!!
Ref DH - he's been away for the past week so I've not really caught up with him but he's managed to have a proper catch up with everyone so he's starting to process it all.

@KittyKatSmile - oh that's not good. If you do think it is constructive dismissal, you need to act in a manner that shows you are unhappy with the events. Also seek some legal as constructive can be tricky to prove.

@Mrbay thank you so much. I've definitely made it clear I'm unhappy, have been logging everything and am speaking to an employment lawyer next week. It's just so upsetting.

When does your OH get back? Must be so horrible for you xx

@AliciaWhiskers Lovely to hear from you, good luck with this next round :)

@Mrbay I hope you are doing okay and the symptom spotting isn't being too hard on you. When is OTD?

@Ginandtonic31 that is great that you are still able to exercise. I keep thinking about swimming but a bit self conscious with my new body. I am putting on weight on my thighs now too which is not nice! What stuff have you been doing at the gym?

@Cauliflower82 I am sorry you are struggling with sleep...it must be so awful. But what a feeling you must be having now that you are on maternity leave! A nice release I expect. Do you know how long you will have off? I love the thought of a year but my husband tells me I'll be desperate to go back much before then!

@KittyKatSmile I am so sorry work are being such divs! Tiny Dancer will be fine but what a horrid selfish boss for putting you through all of this. Knowing what you are like though you will fight to the bitter end and she will be put in her place. That is very exciting that TD is in the right position! I like how you are essentially the chief of our forum and will be able to guide and instruct us all! How is the nursery going?

Not too much to update on here, just waiting for the 20 week scan and getting some scanxiety for that. I'm not sure if I'm starting to feel the baby move...not sure if it's food digesting (but perhaps a bit low), farts brewing or other random twitches! Very quick and gentle pushes if it's the baby. We've started to think about buying things now...I have an idea of a pram/travel system and we are contemplating a grey and white nursery or one with lots of jungle/safari accessories. What's everyone going for? Anyone want to share pictures or share some of their "big buys?" The market is so overwhelming!

@KittyKatSmile - i know its not what you wanted to hear but I wanted to give you the best advice. make sure you get everything in writing, even if they say in passing such and such will be leading that project. email them to sy just to confirm xyz and BCC your personal email address. A solicitor may tell you to resign and walk out so start to take some of your stuff home if possible.

In terms of how I feel, I'm really quiet relaxed and if this doesn't
Ref DH, I am used to it so I'm enjoying having the house to myself, plus puppy is being really useful! She's becoming very clingy over the past 48-hrs, she did this last time I was pregnant so this could be a good sign. She helped me do my last injection last night and then tried to run off with the needle.

@zest11 - yep I keep thinking oh this happened last time, oh this doesn't feel like my period etc. Progesterone is a cruel drug! On the positive side, my boobs have got so full! so swings and round abouts!

OTD is next week, I'm keeping that to myself - sorry. I'm kinda enjoying my double life! I've only told my manager and one friend - kinda by accident! Everyone else thinks that I am having a break.

I met up with my best friend today (she's preggers and we would have been due within one day of each other) it was odd talking to her about the IVF as I had to remember that I was hiding the truth.

I feel relaxed and content, if we dont't manage to conceive than at least I tried and I'm ready to move forward just to the two of us, two dogs, a cat and horse!

Hope everyone else is enjoying counting the days/weeks!

@Mrbay you sound in a great place, your update really made me smile. Whatever our ridiculous bodies are doing, it's so important that our heads are straight.

Your advice was great, no need for apologies! All of my stuff has already gone, I've been wfh for a few weeks already so I'm kind of in halfway house anyway. I've spoken to this lawyer before; he's very level headed and I trust him completely so I'm looking forward to just straightening things up now. On the plus side had a very positive meeting yesterday about potential work over here so hopefully Tiny Dancer won't starve after all :-)

@Mrbay I completely get the secrecy...it's so much easier and takes the pressure off. We didn't tell a single person last time (not even the bog!! ) as I didn't want to have to think about. I'm so pleased with how calm you are about everything. Xx

@KittyKatSmile - thanks - I do wonder sometimes if I am wired a little different to everyone else.

yay! Go you!! to be fair, I get the feeling that you are strong woman so I am sure the two of you will be absolutely fine :)
Maybe time to Etsy your makes??

@Zest11 - the bog?? I do worry a bit that I'm not worried about it all!!

Howver, if this time works, my friend's who will have had their babies by then will be able to regift their unwanted bits to me #everycloud