December/ January IVF&ICSI

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Hi everyone, so we saw the nurse earlier this week and our plan has been set. We are on long protocol and will be looking at starting on my December cycle meaning that I will be due to start buserelin around 6th jan with EC being end of Jan.

Anyone else looking at a December/ January cycle?

@nordicmom sounds like you've had a tough time. Hope it all goes ok for you. :)

@nordicmom so sorry you’ve had such a tough time. I’ve been finding mindfulness apps are quite good at helping me sleep but I know different things work for different people.

Odd/panicking question ladies and not sure if anyone has the answer. I start day 21 buserelin tomorrow however I'm worried about how it's going to work. I normally have a 28 day ish cycle but I ovulated much earlier than average this time. Which means rather than being due next Friday I'm due this Friday. Will it be enough time for things to work??
Should I contact my nurse? I've been tracking for 3 1/2 years, so know my data pretty well, but with Christmas and New year I was very bad at temping during the important bit.
Just panicking that it's going to mess things up!

Yeah😄! AF has arrived so I can book my scan !!!!

Just booked my baseline scan for next week wed. Am at a trampolin center with the kids and suddenly all tearful watching DD and realising I might have left it too late my likely success rate is now roughly half of what it was trying to have her

I basically had to halt everything for 3 y while my constant dizziness was being investigated. Turns out it’s type of a migraine . I wasted years waiting for NHS to get on with it between 3 hospitals . No point of thinking about what ifs though . In my darkest moments I think about what my life would have been like if I wouldn’t have gotten adrenal insufficiency from steroids they gave me for my mc . Then might not have had DD through surrogacy though . Can’t go back in time so no use dwelling on it . I’ll have to cheer up now or kids will wonder what’s wrong with me ...

@Ginger951 I think as long as you have a bleed whilst on buserelin, exact dates shouldn't matter too much but maybe check with your nurse to be on the safe side 😊

@Nordicmom great that your scan is booked in and hope you're ok!

Thanks for encouragement !

I’m pretty negative about our chances but I think it’s just the reality and I’ve had my heart broken too many times in what I now realise is more like 12 y not 10 since DS is turning 14...

One step at a time though like before and I will try to distract myself with everything else . There’s plenty going on in general so in theory not too much time to think except when quiet night time comes . Been tearful all fall after my my fil death and my mom’s near death from a heart attack and pneumonia and my thyroid cancer scare abd then my poor DS being mugged with his friend gave me a huge scare with all the knives around ,and this is so unlike me I think I cried my tears with all my mc and there’s not much left . I was getting better before Christmas but now with this whether its the hormones or prob just the whole process I’m starting getting to be an emotional wreck again and DH was all why ? When I texted I was tearful at trampolining but he’s not going trough this physically and hasn’t all of the hell I have for last 12 y so he will never fully understand . He’s a pretty good support though and an excellent nurse I just feel like I’ll need all the hugs in the next month to come !

@nordicmom it is such a painful thing to go through and you're right, many people don't know what it feels like. Sometimes it honestly feels like you're spiralling. But, try not to overthink things, take each day as it comes. I myself was the exact same all of December, in fact that whole of 2018! I'm so glad to see it go! But we have to enjoy the little things in life that bring us joy so as to bring balance to our lives...because IVF is all consuming. I've decided to that every Saturday I'm treating myself to massages, manicures and spa days just because I know this month will be hard. Hang in there! :)

Thanks for the lovely words mimi! I’m trying to see friends a lot and do things with my kids and DH and have lots and lots of hugs with them all . I do wish I could have just put it all behind me but I’ve thought about it for 5 y and just can’t give it up and move on without trying . Now I’m nearly getting to the menopause age it’s the last chance I have . It’s always haunted me whether I could have carried DD myself and we wouldn’t have needed our surrogate but I had by then had 10 early Mc and just gotten sick with the adrenal insufficiency but I wasn’t diagnosed yet so after looking into
adoption earlier we moved straight to gestational surrogacy and I didn’t try ivf myself . I’m very grateful for her help and the enourmous “ gift “ she gave to us but it was pretty hard process to go through and has always bothered me although I don’t think about it when I look at her . She’s my special little girl and I’m so happy to have her ! She’s as much our child as our son . I think it helps she’s a spitting image of me when I was little 😄

@Nordicmom I'm so sorry to hear that! It's been so tough for you, I can imagine how it would haunt you. It's lovely that you see yourself in your DD, it must be such a beautiful feeling when you look at her. Hopefully that will be someday!

Thank you

@Positivity86 thank you. I'm a bit worried as I'm due to start down regging tomorrow but have only just ovulated yesterday. Does anyone think this matters? Not sure then if period will still start 7 days after synarel or still take 11 more like when I'd normally be due.
@Nordicmom sorry you are feeling so low. Second the doing nice things for yourself and perhaps look into counselling? My clinic offers it for free alongside IVF which I'm definitely going to use.

We had our nurse appointment yesterday so it's all go now. Feeling excited and nervous. Feel like I've already forgotten how to give injections though!!

@nordicmom sorry to hear you are feeling low. May be worth looking into the counselling side of things?

I had my egg collection yesterday. All went well, we got 14 eggs. Feeling quite sore this morning but happy with how many we got. Will get a call this morning to tell us how many have fertilised.

Hope everyones injections etc are going well.xx

That's great news @Vikkid2007

I'm currently on day 6 of buserelin down regging and possibly one of the only times I've wanted AF to hurry up and come. I'm hoping that it comes before Sunday.... Feeling the side effects though- I think this is good though as it means the meds are in my system and hopefully will start doing what they are meant to v soon.

Hope you don’t mind me asking here ladies.
Can I ask is icsi/ivf override mfi issues? I’m hopefully going to be doing icsi/ivf in the future and I’m going through a very bad patch rn of thinking it just won’t work for us. Would you say it works most the time ? We only have mfi as my tests have came back clear. I’m nearly 28 dp is 29 been ttc naturally for 7 years now and last year and a half been having tests/referal
Thankyou.

@Vikkid2007 great news and a great number! I hope you recover ok.

@Boboelephant I think you will be fine, some periods can be earlier or later while on buserelin but as long as you have one! If you're worried I'm sure your nurse can advise 😊

@donnas146 welcome! I don't know much about MFI as we are unexplained, but I've heard ICSI is the best approach if that's the case. Good luck!

@Vikkid2007 that's great news. Hope it's more good news today!

@brighteye3986 fingers crossed. Hope AF comes soon. I know what you mean- it's going to feel weird wanting her to show up after so long wishing she wouldn't!

@donnas146 I have no idea I'm afraid but I hope it works for you.

@Positivity86 thank you. I did mention it to the nurse yesterday and she asked if the doc had told me to start later. I said no and so she said to just crack on. I've emailed the doc today just to check. I think it won't do any damage, I'll probably just be down regging longer. We are unexplained too (secondary). I really hate the unknowing but am hoping it'll mean the IVF works!

@donnas146 we have both female and male factors (I believe) and having ICSI. After all the info we have received I feel like ICSI will give us better chances of IVF working as rather than waiting for the eggs and sperm to dance and hope for the best they inject a single sperm into the egg. There is still the chance that the egg won't fertilise or stick but I'm feeling positive about it

@brighteye3986 it will arrive soon! Mine came on day 9 of Buserelin and I was desperate for it so I know how you feel.

@Boboelephant that's good, always best to check these things! Yes that's what I hope too...we are just having standard IVF so hope the sperm know what to do 😂

@Positivity86 I hope so. I feel like it is coming. I'm getting the menopause side effects today! 😩

@vikki2007 That is a great number. Hope you are recovering okay and they are growing well.

@donna146 We are mfi and having ICSI. It depends on what MFI you have as to whether ICSI will overcome it, but that is the go to treatment. If is is the usual (low count/motility/morphology) then they do recommend it because they select and inject the best of the sperm so you don't need as many good sperm.

@donna146 we are going with icsi as my husband has low everything, count, volume, morphology and high abnormality. We have been told that it will give us the best chances. Costs more but they will advise as to whether your case is severe enough to need it. As it is my fertility is coming back really good, my initial follicle count was 19 and all my blood have come back spot on. So hoping mine will counter his.

Day 3 of burselin now. Feeling fine so far. Looking forward to my period for the first time. Tracking can't decide when I ovulated but I think it was around new year and from how I'm feeling I suspect I'm due any day now. So just got to see how much it's delayed by. Luckily next few days are very busy! Airport run Sunday, off to Belfast Tuesday and my husband goes in for surgrey on Friday. So enough to distract me.