Thread 32 | TTC#1 | Making the move from conception to infertility. We've taken some blows but we are not beaten

[Jamon]

Hi all. We're a group of first timers who've been plugging away on the conception boards for some time. The support here is amazing so if you're in a similar boat please jump onboard.

Time to hand hold through treatments and support each other through to becoming the mums we deserve to be 💪🏼🌸🙏🏼

Definitely better skip 👍🏼

Plane my DH had 2% then 1% and our gp wasn’t concerned, once we went to the hospital they said ICSI and we start ivf next month - 6 months later. He went on to Proxeed Plus and his morphology came up to 4% which is considered normal but no BFP.

Morphology seems to be poorly understood and a lot of couples on here have had experiences with low numbers here too.

Sounds like he’s doing all the right things and hope you get an improved result next time

Thanks for the info jamon! Can I ask did the gp prescribe the proxeed or did you buy online? I've heard of it but not done any research on it.

Great news that you can finally start your icsi journey! Good luck!!

Not sure where everyone is based, we are London and have chosen the lister clinic think the urologist guy there is meant to be really good? Or so a fertility podcast informed me.... 😬

@mudskip enjoy your evening!

wing feel your pain - today would have been my due date

How is the hangover mud?

Haha plane I did not watch it last night but I totally agree!!! Bloody fertile women

Ok so I was watching YouTube last night and saw a couple of videos on V-steaming... well I think I want to give it a go... anyone with me?

Kwick - I was drinking beer all day and drunk like 2 litres of water before bed so have zero hangover. It's a talent of mine ;) I feel bad for my DH, he has work today and I don't. But still had to get up as theres someone coming to take a look at my loft, I want to convert it into another bedroom. Why did I book it for 9pm....

We buy it online plane. It’s the only one I’ve seen and heard consistently recommended and it made a difference for us.

Big hug kwick today 💐 but v steaming I assume you are pranking us

@kwick lol I read something about this or it was on another podcast 😂 I seriously thought about it! What are the benefits again?!!

Thanks @Jamon I'll take a look today!!

Oooh love a bit of home improvement mud! Least he can go back to bed if he wants after?! Also 🙌 on the boozing minus hangover!! A true skill!

I'm a big proceed plus advocate over here as well. There's a new supplement which we've also been recommended called Fertilix which is new to the market but apparently even better. We're at the Lister plane and the urologist we've seen is called Dr Ramsay who has been amazing. Think there's lots of stuff on the net about him and loads of people singing his praises.

kwick hope you get through today all ok. x

winging that's such a shitty situation, so unfair what this does to your friendships.

Glad you've not got a hangover today skip, I always forget to drink water, such a school boy error.

I had such a lovely weekend with friends. Have been struggling and DH is away for 2 weeks with work but had nicest weekend I've had in ages and felt like myself and then one of my best friends husband text me last night basically having a go at me for not inviting her out on Saturday and saying she feels rather lonely... This is the couple who promised to be with us every step of the way after MC and have literally disappeared off face of the earth and never ask how things are, how we're feeling, anything. The girls I went out with were my 2 best friends from school who she's not friends with so I have zero need to justify it anyway and normally I would say oh no, sorry and make some apology but I was so so angry given the way they've both been such shit friends to me and also to DH so I said the girls actually arranged the night out because they knew DH was away and know I've been having a shit time. I told her last week he was away and she didn't ask what my plans were, did I want to do something, go round for dinner, yet again nothing. Just can't believe how selfish some people are! He's messaged today saying forget I said anything, it's just she's lonely I think and I saw you went out and it wound me up (!!). But it was ok the other weekend when she went to a spa weekend with two of our mutual friends but I didn't get invited...just such shitty behaviour!

Welcome plane! Sounds like you're keeping a positive attitude

Woah Chlo she sounds batshit insane. One rule for you and another for her I guess!

Thanks girls! Hi kerry Aw you've all been lovely!

Thanks for the proxeed and fertilix advice chlo and jam do you think we should crack on with this or wait until we get to the clinic?

Mr Ramsay was the reason I chose the lister chlo! Great to hear he lives up to his reputation! Your pal sounds rather selfish. It's funny how people react in these situations,maybe have a real heart to heart with her? Any reason she would be feeling lonely or has just brought it on her self?

My childhood friendship group has really started to splinter in the last 5 years especially since children have come along. Priorities change I suppose but I also have noted my friends with children are rather sensitive to the lack of acknowledgement on social media of their kids bizarrely.... I rarely use Facebook now but it's definitely a thing if you haven't like a pic of the off spring 🙄 anyone else found that?

Yeah he's been so amazing in our case plane, I would say you're in good hands. When's your appointment? We saw a consultant at the lister who then referred us to dr Ramsay so it's taken a few months overall to get sorted but well worth it in the grand scheme.

I'm not sure what's up really. She's rubbish about talking about feelings so I do ask but she never gives much back and I've got fed up of asking and never being asked in return. Doesn't have to be a huge convo, just how are things, when's your next appt etc. When I have told her, she's never followed up and said hope you get on ok or anything. To me that's just very basic? I've invited her to things before as have the girls I went out with and they've never been invited back to her house so it sounds harsh but you get out what you put in. I've backed off because it was upsetting me basically and now all of a sudden it seems to have been noticed but come on, where have you been for the last 6 months?! I fully expect when we do have a baby things will go back to normal but that's just not really good enough. You need your friends much more when going through this then any other time.

The whole social media thing is a nightmare isn't it. I just always like pics as don't want anyone to be like oh she's not liking it because she doesn't have a kid or talk about me behind my back. Probably me being over sensitive but can't be effed with all of that.

What stage are you at chlo? We've just informed our insurance it's the lister we would like to be referred to so awaiting on them getting back to us asap about an appt.

I would definitely say something to her about it all. Note down everything though so you don't get too emotional if you do decide to chat to her about it. We had a similar situ in our group which was only resolved by confronting the friend about her shit behaviour... hope you are ok 💐

That's weird behaviour for a friend, Chlo!

Do we know how Harriet is doing?

Cd1 cycle 21

Another f*ing 25day cycle. Seems acupuncture not the miracle I thought it was. Did have nice high temps until yesterday morning though which is an improvement on previous months.

jamon I kid you not - apparently fanjo steaming can help many issues including infertility.
My (very limited) research indicates I will have to do at home if I want to try... but can procure the herbs through a fertility masseuse.
Have a lot on at the mo (not least an appt with Donor Coordinator of IVI tomorrow) so not sure if I will sort but thought very interesting. Take a look on YouTube - I can send a link later if you want.

Well done on drinking tecnique mud!

Really shitty chlo

Today has been fine - crazy busy at work and now dashing home to see builder. Also a friend from another thread got a BFP today after doing double donor IVF at Serum - I am so pleased for her.

wing

Sorry Winging xx

Fanjo steaming?? That is definitely a new one! I'm scared to google it in case of what comes up on the screen!

winging I've heard of people being prescribed progesterone to help lengthen cycle? Have the drs recommended anything other than the acupuncture?

How are you feeling about your appointment kwick?

We're gearing up for ICSI/IMSI in November plane. Got to go back to the Lister in a few weeks and discuss further but that's the plan. How weird as I'm writing this I've just glanced at a letter from the Pensions Regulator and thought it said Penis Regulator.. how very apt!

Sorry Winging. I've been having acupuncture for a while and AF is definitely less painful (physically 😓 anyway).
When do you think you ovulated? How does it compare to previous cycles?
My cycle length is longer this month, but have had my usual spotting and BFN on tests.

Oh Chlo that "friend" is no good and as for her DH, who the fuck does he think he is noticing you were out and getting miffed. Pardon my French but really, what a twat. Send the Penis Regulator round to check his forehead!

Kwick that sounds interesting, my mum has a Karcher...

Baby bombed again... At work and on FB though that's a lovely old friend but it's her third and I'm gutted, have been wanting this since she had number 1.
I think I'll disconnect from FB for a while.

So sad, just want a little person that's a mix of me and DH, though hope they would get his sporting and musical talents! We've had names picked for years. Don't really want to have to use them for a puppy!

Hi all

Found the new thread and have been catching up since getting back from hols 2 there has been so much action. Sorry to those of you who have been having a hard time and welcome to all new people.

My stats are
Age: 33
TTC: 22 months
Various slight issues including slightly low morph and motility, possible adhesions on tubes and slightly reduced antral follicle count.

We had an amazing holiday - definitely ate and drank everything we could and really enjoyed ourselves. Came back yesterday to the airline having lost my case...luckily I got it back this evening, I was worried about losing
most of my worldly possessions!

I think I'll hit back home with a proper bump when I get my period this week - this is our last chance of a natural conception before having the scratch later in October and beginning on the long protocol - glad I'll have some cycle buddies. I go up and down on feeling terrified, and then feeling weirdly quite excited that we might get somewhere at last....Sore boobs are my classic week before period sign, and they started yesterday, so just a countdown now....

chlo No it's not really been mentioned by consultant, I think they've focused on Dh's results instead. We have first ivf appointment soon so I'll bring it up then.

jene I did have pretty regular 28 day cycles and ovulation around day 16/17. From the start of the year I've had a lot of 25 and 26 day cycles. Since starting acupuncture I immediately had a 30 day followed by a 28 day, but still ovulating around day 16.

Baguette - So sad, just want a little person that's a mix of me and DH, though hope they would get his sporting and musical talents! We've had names picked for years. Don't really want to have to use them for a puppy! - what you said there resonates with me 100%, that's all I want too. Our child will have so many freckles, and dark hair and will probably do well at school, though DH is the analyst and I'm the creative person so that will be interesting. And yep, names picked too...

chlo I am feeling fine - well actually not what with lurgy which has me floating along in a bit of a cloud.

Seriously google "vaginal steaming" on You Tube and watch the Safiyra one or the Candace Lowry one or the Susan Yara one - it is supposed to help with painful periods - amongst many other things.

baguette what is a Karcher?

I too want a baby that is a bit of me - thank God they have discovered that the carrying mummy plays a very important genetic role.

Right am off to find out what a karcher is...

Sorry Kwick a Karcher is a steam cleaner but as far as I know for bathrooms and windows etc.

baguette 😂😂😂😂😂!!!! No I do not want to use that on my fanjo!!!!
I know I sound like I have gone all Gywneth Paltrow (and I fricking hate her) but if castor oil can work why not this? perhaps I am really going mad

I think somebody on this board might have tried fanjo steaming. It rings a bell. I don't think it worked for her though.

I'm on holiday in Genoa atm, and awful is it might sound I can't be arsed to be here. I've had AF style cramps for two weeks now (but no AF) and I just feel like shit. I know DH wants sexy times as well, but I've literally never felt less sexy in my life.