PCOS - Trying to conceive

[ElizabethCatherine]

Welcome to our 5th thread :)

A lovely bunch of ladies all here to help each other along the way with any questions or concerns we all have when TTC with PCOS

*dye run

@SLady how frustrating about your results!!! Can you leave a message for someone to call you back? Any symptoms? What CD are you on (Sorry i am rubbish, i always lose track)

I am CD16 today, no peak OPK yet but last cycle it was CD17 so planning on DTD tonight as we still haven't done it yet!!! OH doesn't come near me when i have a cold. Its finally wearing off but this morning i have woke up to a breakout in cold sores....3 and counting so far :-(( I feel he may need some persuading tonight haha!

How is everyone else? @ElizabetheCatherine Hope you are ok! Sending you positive vibes!!

@ConfusionIsNothingNew Sorry for the BFN. Do you know whereabouts you are in your cycle?

Sorry for the BFN confusion

Haha snap on the coldsore amy hate those things!! Just pretend to him you feel 100% better haha.

Someone called me back this morning and my progesterone was less than 1 again. So it's 150mg for me. I can't believe it I just want to give up with it all. It's so disheartening!!! I've asked if the doctor can call me back, I have so many questions!!

@SLady well I tried it on last night and he was having none of it as i broke out in a coughing fit haha! I need to plaster the compeed patches on aswell! Bloody crap timing!!

Ah sorry to hear that about your progesterone!! Are they sure you are having the bloods done on the right day? If you ovulate late (which is common on clomid) you won't get the right reading on CD21?! Deffo try and get to talk to a consultant! Is it worth you paying privately for scans to monitor this next cycle?

My best friend had her lovely baby boy last night so she is on cloud 9. I am so happy for her but jealous at the same time (does that make me a shit friend) I just need to keep positive and my time will come i'm sure! xx

Yeah that is rubbish timing Amy. You don't want to miss a cycle if you can help it.

I'm going to ask that, I don't think I ovulate as early as CD14 but I expect my progesterone should still be higher than a zero even if I were to ovulate later in that cycle. Im going to ask whether its worth paying for a monitored cycle and I'm also going to ask about metformin and what happens if 150mg doesn't work!! I'm not ready for IVF yet. I've got quite a few questions which I've written down so hopefully he calls me back. I don't think my clinic realise there are people at the end of their prescriptions!!

No you're not a bad person at all, it's natural to feel that way. The longer I go on with these cycles the more bitter I feel I'm becoming

Thank you everyone for the positive vibes and love it really means a lot. Sorry for being so distant and not participating much in the thread it’s just been so tough for me. You ladies are all so strong for hanging in there every month as well. This journey is so tough for all of us mentally and physically. I am so so happy to say that I am finally back home after 2 weeks in hospital. It will be a further 2 week recovery period I am definitely not that mobile and still have pains. I wake up DRENCHED in sweat like I have never seen before for the last 3 nights so I hope that doesn’t mean an infection is coming... also woke up to the worst diarrhea too.. I have a follow up scan tomorrow morning to see how the fluid is doing and if my ovaries are calming down more. Also woke up to my period today which shocked me as I never get periods only had 1 in a year. They said it would come after egg collection but I didn’t believe them cuz I never have them but sure enough it came and I was shocked that it didn’t have to be induced with norethisterone.
@HollyWollyDooDah the fluid is all in the tissues of my body and draining into my legs etc I feel a lot more “jelly and wobbly” at the moment. But in hospital it was completely surrounding all my organs in masses and there was so much pressure from so much fluid swimming around that it began leaking into my lungs so there is still some in there but the drain did the majority of the work at getting it out of the free spaces between the organs.
@SLady if I were you maybe consider asking your doctor about doing an HSG so they can make sure that your tubes are not blocked and if you are ovulating that it can travel freely. I had that procedure done and had to before even considering to take clomid because they want to rule out all possibilities to give the medication the best shot it’s got.
Stay positive everyone. Sending you all hugs

@SLady It is hard isn't it because every month is a roller coaster of emotions. I get so hopeful in the 2ww just to have all hope crushed out of me when AF arrives

I know what you mean, you would like to think it would be higher than 1! I think you would benefit from a monitored cycle. I was having 3 scans a month plus bloods. They scan you between CD 1 - 4 then around CD14 and they can see if you have any follicles maturing. I then went back about 4/5 days later to see the follicle has ovulated (looked like a burst balloon) then had my bloods 7 days after my 2nd scan date to check chemical ovulation. It gave me a clear picture of what was happening through my cycle.

I keep feeling really down about the fact I fell pregnant in Nov 2016 and that's fast approaching one year ago!! I need to remember even though i feel like i have been on clomid for months, I have only actually had one successful ovulation which was last month!! Onwards and Upwards!!!

@ElizabethCatherine Good to hear from you and i am glad you are home and on the road to recovery. You have certainly been through some shit!! That's positive you period has returned (not that you need to deal with that on top of everything else) Must be reassuring to know!

Glad to hear you are home ElizabethCatherine take it easy.

I've spoken to my consultant and he has said it's a possibility im Clomid resistant some women are and they don't know why but not to give up on the Clomid yet as I may still react on a higher dose. We will try 150mg for two months and if still no ovulation then he would put me on 3 months with metformin. But he did say if i wanted metformin now I could have it. If that doesn't work then it would be ovarian drilling or injections. I don't qualify for nhs ivf until 2019 anyway. He said that the scans are only really there to check for multiple follicles and its not actually a benefit to be scanned but if I want a scan they are happy to do that on cd10 next cycle for my own benefit. He said different doctors have different processes but if I feel like others are getting treatment that I should have then he seemed happy to listen and accomodate that which I appreciate

So glad to hear you are at home Elizabethcatherine been thinking of you. Hopefully you are well on the way to a full recovery now

I think my main problem is that the Clomid isn't having an effect on me so pregnancy isnt possible. He did say before that we would look into things like that if I was ovulating and still not getting pregnant. But I just need to ovulate first!

Yes definitely it would help for my own benefit I think amy I think I'll ask to be scanned on my cycle of 150mg and do the two cycles of that as recommended and then start the 150mg with the metformin after that and see how that goes!

I know it's just such a disappointment. I always thought I'd get pregnant before my 30th but it's getting closer and closer and doesnt look like it'll happen and just makes me feel more upset. So hard to keep up the positivity sometimes

@SLady well that sounds positive for sure! If you are monitored on 150 and they can see its not doing anything then they can move on to something else surly?

I have heard alot of talk of Metformin but my consultant has never mentioned it to me. I need to get another prescription of clomid for next cycle so i may see if they will prescribe it to me also. I feel like as I have pcos and have had a MMC it can be down to my insulin resistance as to why i misscarried.

Yes I feel a little bit better amy. I do think I'm going to be resistant to it though as my progesterone is zero so it's not like it's even working a bit. I think i'll have the scan on the first cycle of 150mg and if it looks like it hasn't worked then I will start the metformin on cycle 6 no point waiting until cycle 7 and see how I get on with that for a few cycles. I don't think I like the sound of the drilling so i might move onto injectables after that.

I would definitely ask amy it seemed like my doctor was really accommodating once I'd asked. He even said if I'd had enough of Clomid we could stop that now and try something else even though he'd recommend trying the maximum dose first.

Hi ladies.

I am an old poster on this forum but haven't posted in a while as I felt I was getting slightly obsessed with googling and posting so I had some time to sort my head out.

It's been nice catching up on all your stories - whether they are positive or negative we are all making progress in our journeys.

So yesterday I had the first bit of good news I've had in my whole 18month journey - so I tried clomid for three months and had no response which was heartbreaking, a meeting with the consultant resulted in him prescribing metformin and merional injectables and a trigger shot. Yesterday was my cd10 scan and guess what?! Follicles!! Lots of big juicy ones!!! Two at 17mm, one at 16mm and the rest 14mm or smaller. I am just so relieved for the first time in this whole journey I actually have a chance at ovulating.

I did the trigger shot tonight and so should know in 36 hours if I have ovulated (hopefully) xxx

AmaIng new @Elly1685 keep us posted x

Hey lovelies,

Sorry I’ve been MIA had a bit of difficult 10 days with Work and then another 3 friends telling me they are pregnant, I’m over the moon for them but just wish it was me too!
So I’ve been reading but not posting as I didn’t want to burden you all with my moaning and negativity!

So pleased you are home ElizabethCatherine. Sounds like you have had an awful time, was your scan today?

SLady sorry to hear you didn’t ovulate, could the blood test have been too early? When do you think you are due AF? It’s great you have spoken to the consultant and have a plan now. Why aren’t you eligible
For IVF until 2019?

How are you feeling now AmyL? Did you manage to convince OH to get to it?!!

Sounds really promising Elly! Keeping everything crossed for you.

I thought AF was coming early on Saturday but was just some pink spotting so have no idea what that was about due AF Thursday. Hoping for a miracle that it doesn’t come but don’t feel very lucky this month!

That's great news Elly gives people like me hope!! There's no way I'm going to respond on the 150mg, I can't see it happening. Hopefully the metformin or injections will do the trick. What are merional injections? How long do you inject for?

Oooh sunny that sounds promising...could be implantation bleeding. When will you test?
I think it would have been too early but even if I'd have ovulated a bit later my progesterone would have been rising. But it was still baseline. I guess the only chance would be if I ovulated CD21 onwards. I have got some symptoms of AF though, I'm due on at the weekend. Going to give it a bit longer until I start norethisterone.
You have to be trying for 3 years before you get ivf funding in my area so it'll be early 2019 for us. Hopefully I'll be pregnant by then!

Sorry to hear about the babybombs sunny they're so hard but your time is going to come soon I know it don't worry about burdening us, that's what we're here for!!

Thanks for all your good wishes ladies.

Slady I had 5 injections, one every other day from cd2 to 10 and then the trigger shot yesterday. Not sure what merional is similar to but when I was googling merional it seemed quite rare and not many people were on.
I've had loads of discomfort in my lower side the past few days. It's really tender and sore - not sure if it's a combination of ovulation pains and injection site pains? X

@Sunny1984 Don't worry you can always moan away to us lot! Did the spotting turn into anything?

Managed to DTD Tuesday night, and today got my positive OPK on an IC and CB so need to dtd again but i still feel crappy. I doubt very much i will catch this month as i have just been so ill. Coldsores are that bad my friend thinks i need antibiotics for them. Top lip looks like ive been punched it's that swollen!

@SLady has AF arrived?

@Elly1685 Great news on the folli's!! When do you get your next scan? FX for you x

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Does anyone take meds for depression?
I've been on them in the past, and feel myself getting hopeless. Just constantly worrying about stupid things, making stupid mistakes and generally not seeing light anywhere.
I just don't want to mess up fertility referral
Xxx

Hi all,

Sorry not really caught up on the whole thread but just seen Holly's query and felt compelled to reply.

I don't take meds for depression but I did have a bought of very severe depression many years ago so know what it's like to feel like that.

Please go to your GP as they will be able to help. A friend of mine has bipolar and was on strong meds and she had to gradually switch to different meds before they TTC. I appreciate that is different to depression but there must be some meds that are ok to use when TTC/preg.

I must say I am finding myself very anxious since finding out about my close friends pregnancy and then yesterday her sister put something on FB that made it sound like she could be pg too. I had a dream about it last night. I think it's not the it's not happened yet that gets to me but the unknown about when/if it will happen for me.

Positive for me is I seem to be back in the zone with losing weight and not eating as much rubbish and I have just had a 33 day cycle which is brilliant for me so Metformin must be working.

Oh @HollyWollyDooDah
It’s so hard hun.. I was prescribed them by my doctor and didn’t end up taking them and chose to go the counselling route instead as I think you have to be careful which ones you are on if pregnant but when ttc I’m not sure if it matters 100% I think if/when you become pregnant they safely take you off them. People who are on depression meds conceive as well and then come off so she said there is no proven medical evidence that it messes with anything but best to check with your doctor on what she recommends for you

Baby bombs are the worst. That’s the thing is never know if and when it will ever happen for us. I can’t handle that part. I just want to be a Mumma so bad and now that IVF has been so intense for my body I feel like it’s really not meant to be... it’s just crazy :( drives me insane

Hope you are feeling a bit better holly - ttc can be really tough :(

So I did my trigger shot Tuesday and since Thursday I've been in really bad pain in my left side by my hip bone and up my left side and round my lower back. Paracetamol and hot water bottle relieve the pain but if I don't take pain killers every 4-6 hours I'm in a lot of pain. Does it sound normal that it's going on this long ? I've been putting up with it as I've never ovulated before but it's really hurting now :(