The mind numbing boredom of infertility IV

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Yes it's the return of the thread where we're so fucking bored of being infertile and talking about infertility and thinking about infertility and worrying and infertility and learning about infertility treatment and explaining infertility to other people and making up lies to cover up for going for infertility tests and treatment that we can't even be bothered to think of a better name for the thread.

Join us if you are barren, bored and bitter, or any combination of the above. We'll listen to your tails of woe when everyone you've ever met upduffs in an instant, accompany you through the trials of tests and treatment and commiserate the inevitable setbacks and disappointments.

Welcome to the ghetto.

When I can work out links, I'll post linnks to threads 1, 2 and 3

For those of you bunged up - I have been taking two DulcoEase before bed for last three nights and I am pooing daily again. It isn't perfect, but a hell of a lot better.

This was my research about early pregnancy:

www.dulcolax.com/constipation-and-pregnancy-breastfeeding.html

Needless to say I did NOT talk to me health professional before doing this. My asshole was not interested in my health professionals concerns.

Icy, you had sex last night. Take a bow please. No sexy for me yet - I worry I might fart my poor husband across the room (all 17 stone of him).

No SEX for me (or SEXY!). Me so sexy.

At the moment I'm not really entertaining the thought of doing a 5 day transfer, will go for the 2 day transfer if it looks ok tomorrow. It's such a difficult decision (and like the worst game of chicken ever!) and if they would consider a 3 day transfer then I would be happier to make the 5 day or not decision then, rather than at 2 days (if that makes sense!) Because I am over 40 they are more open to putting 2 back in first time (they talked about 3 maybe yesterday but even though the risk of triplets is probably less than the odds of winning the lottery whilst simultaneous being struck by lightning I still don't want to risk it) so if there are 2 looking good tomorrow then that's probably what I'll do.

Totally makes sense Tammy. Awful chicken game. I ended up with two making it to blast (none to freeze). They both went in, as you know I have had a positive test, so will know in a few weeks if one or two stuck. Unless it all goes wrong before then.

Every time we discuss twins my husband and I start giggling like hysterical panicked crazy people. My husband has three already (two are my stepchildren, one is our son), so this is NO laughing matter.

On balance I am still very happy I put two back in. As well as being old I have low AMH (2.9), so I don't want delay future fresh stim cycles if this doesn't work.

Good news Tammy.

We have discussed with embryologist and agreed we will have 2 back on d3 if we have clear front runners but only 1 if d5. Got to make an embryo first though!

Team, I had a poo and am gearing up for another!!

I'm waving pom poms Icy!

Good luck with the poo icy. Remember, pic or it didn't.... Yeah OK maybe not for this.

Karla I feel the same about the shelf! Let's hold hands for now

Tammy good luck for that transfer.

Sara / fourpaws I'm on for Dec/Jan so see you there...

I'm also aiming for Jan/on the shelf until then (and probably again after... think positive and all that! Or not...)

Random question

Does anyone know if taking Ubiquinol and/or DHEA can regulate or alter cycles.

Since my failed IVF in May, I have been taking max dose and have found my cycles are more towards 28 days rather than 24-26 and also I'm ovulating later at day 14. I can't remember the last time I got past day 13 so was wondering if it is the suppliaments or just IVF playing tricks on me..

Karla!!! My cycles were 22 days ALWAYS, and on max dose Ubiquinol for 6 months they increased to 24 days! I can think of no other reason for this. Other than getting older which I don't think causes longer cycles, usually more irregular bleeding.

I did not take DHEA - tried but turned a bit crazy on it (thumping heart etc) so stopped after four days.

Hello, can I join please? You all seem like a lovely bunch and very supportive. Congrats to the recent bfps, and good news Tammy on 6 fertilising. congrats on the poo icy I would say dhea or ubiquinol has had the same effect on me Karla, my cycle has lengthened about the same as yours since taking the supplements or it may be the NK cells biopsy I had which coincides as well. Hello to Tiger, hope you're doing ok with your FET so far.

So I'm definitely barren, very bitter and so unbelievably bored of my shitty infertility. I've been trying for over 4 years, have 2 failed iuis and 3 failed IVFs with very very low amh, poor response and apparently not very good egg quality . Also have very high uNK cells. I need to trying and get fit again as I've let that go after the failed cycles. I'm hoping to cycle in Prague quite soon.

Hope there's room for another not so little one!

Beakybeak please DO join! Warm welcome, although so sorry you need to be here.

I'm so sorry that you have not had success yet. May I ask what is the diagnosis for you not being able to get pregnant naturally? Low AMH would point to your poor response to IVF stims, but do you have a good reason for not getting pregnant before you started fertility treatment? How do they know that your eggs are not good quality?

And how old are you, if you don't mind me asking?

Sorry if being too nosey after your first post!

Hi beaky. Welcome about the glittershit bus.

Thanks LH, and congrats to you! I was given the unexplained diagnosis when I first had investigations, so no, basically no good explanation for infertility before treatment. Incidentally all bloods and other tests were normal when I first went along too.

Egg quality wise, I've usually had at least two average embryos transferred each cycle but also a couple they said were very good too. The consultant gave me egg quality as a reason for the 3 failed ivfs but I don't feel convinced that in 5 yrs plus I've not made any good enough to implant. We always have really good fertilisation despite low egg numbers.

I'm 36, and don't mind any questioning!

Hi bean, thank you!

hi beaky welcome to the barren ghetto. Man alive it sounds like you've been through the wringer and then some. Lots of experience and knowledge on this thread (also in BESH) so hopefully someone will be able to give you their experiences and hopefully some ideas. Glitter shit to you! 🦄

Welcome Beaky, sorry you are here, it sounds like you have been through a lot but you are in good company here.

I have my standard pre-AF insomnia. Is it not enough that I'm not pregnant? Why does my body feel the need to keep me awake all night to reinforce the fact?

Hi Beaky, welcome to the best club that no one wants to join, everyone here is ever so friendly and helpful.

Early call from clinic which got me panicked but everything is fine and all 6 are looking good so am doing what I said I wouldn't and waiting until Monday. It's going to be a long weekend.

Can I join please?
I've been TTC for 17 years with 3 failed ivfs. Bloody fed up is an understatement!!

eek Tammy long weekend but everyone seems to say that 5 days are that bit more successful. If they're all looking good no reason to go ugly, early so to speak... Sorry that was a very laddish analogy! Worra twat. Glitter shit for those embryos, come on, grow you little fuckers, grow!! 🦄💩

littlebee Jesus, 17 years? What did the clinics say about your IVF attempts - any reasons given for failure? When did you cycle? How old? Sorry for the questions but we all think we're fertility doctors now (although banana is actually an expert on all things lining and did homework for her consultant, so if that's your issue you're in the right place). Welcome to our club of (glitter) shittery. You don't want to be here, we don't want you to be here and yet here we all are, barren ghetto unite.

Thanks Icy! You are right it's shitty being here
Last cycle was last month. I'm 40 low AMH and only 1 ovary & tube. Last 2 cycles I've only ended up with 1 fertilised egg and had a 2dt both times (collected just 1 egg in May and 3 eggs in August).
I'm back for my review today but want to request immune tests and believe they will suggest donor eggs.

Wow, littlebee - 17 years?! Can't imagine how horrible your experience must have been, sorry that you are here but welcome! (think you deserve some sort of medal, I'm crazy enough after just over 4 years!)

I know Tammy, 17 years is ridiculous but I'm still not ready to give up. I've convinced myself that something will show in the immune tests and actually hope there is something so at least I'll have some answers.. And hopefully I'll have a definite way forward.. Please God!!