The mind numbing boredom of infertility IV

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Yes it's the return of the thread where we're so fucking bored of being infertile and talking about infertility and thinking about infertility and worrying and infertility and learning about infertility treatment and explaining infertility to other people and making up lies to cover up for going for infertility tests and treatment that we can't even be bothered to think of a better name for the thread.

Join us if you are barren, bored and bitter, or any combination of the above. We'll listen to your tails of woe when everyone you've ever met upduffs in an instant, accompany you through the trials of tests and treatment and commiserate the inevitable setbacks and disappointments.

Welcome to the ghetto.

When I can work out links, I'll post linnks to threads 1, 2 and 3

Great news lh and icy! So exciting.

Closephine - just wanted to say sorry, no tips for face to face baby bombs. My colleague did that to me a couple of months ago (she also knew about my situation so should have just emailed me) and I also broke down and did the sobbing thing. And then had to go straight into a one to one coaching session and sobbed all over the coach. Not my best day at work.

Loving new thread. Glitter shit to all!

oh icy I am so sorry, I totally missed your news . Yeah!! and fingers crossed for you as well. x

Just popping in briefly to say cautious but very heartfelt congrats to those of you with early good results. I can't hope enough that everything pans out for the best. You all deserve this, more than most.

Good luck all

Wow, congratulation to icy and LHReturns! Fabulous news. And well done PeaOp on your frosties, nice work!

Well I'm back home. 11 eggs which I think surprised everyone (I suspect a good percentage of them will be immature but I guess wait and see). DH's sperm was not great so we're going full ICSI instead of the half and half we had hoped for. I do wonder if this has been the problem all along (antisperm antibodies). We have been told that it can come and go and but the last two samples (the ones that actually check for it) have all had that problem. So frustrating if that the NHS don't do that in initial sample tests (they only do it for pre-IVF ones) as if we'd known 4 years ago we could have gone straight into IVF instead of the years of stress and pain we've had (and whilst my eggs deteriorate), plus we could have had our free cycle on the NHS as were were living in the right postcode. Oh well, I guess we'll never know. Let's just hope some of my geriatric eggs manage to fertilise.

Ace news lh and icy. Quite the run! Hope pea and tammy have similar success. 11 eggs is brill tammy.

Woop LH and icy - bloody marvellous news

peaop amazing news on your frosties!! The little embryos that could

Tammy congratulations on a fantastic haul - a veritable football team of eggs. Rest up and keeping everything crossed for fab news from the love lab tomorrow

Hey peeps

Just checking in to say big congrats on the BFP's! 👍 Finally our thread has some good news for once and thanks for starting bittern and barren #4.
I'm not going to lie, I am starting to panic that I'm going to be left on the shelf, flying solo on this thread for the rest of my life so you all have to make a glitter shit pact that you'll hang around with me until I'm upduffed or dead from old age 😀

tammy good work.
karla hang on in there

Me too karla. I'll still be here with you. I have seen so many people come and go in the three years I have been kicking about on mumsnet.

Nice work tammy and fingers crossed for good fertilisation.

Seem to be getting a daily headache since starting the estradiol, nice.

tiger I hear ya - years of dabbling in and out of MN... A little constant in my life! I sometimes look up users to keep tabs on where they are. I am a sad, SAD woman

Wonderful news LH how fantastic. You've given me some hope there! Icy - his advice sounds eminently sensible but i reckon there's the same odds of you not testing till sun as of me starting my fitness regime this week!
Peaop- two frosties is great what a relief.
Just delurking as out of the game while things settle for next cycle in Jan. Which seems a lifetime away. And all else feels essentially pointless. Any suggestions for a new all absorbing hobby that requires minimal effort or expenditure...? Stay clean ladies☺

I've found you all!! Must admit I was lurking for a while then stopped.
I skimmed as much as I could then looked again today and a new thread had been made!
Couldn't live with myself for not coming on to say how pleased I was to see some BFPs! Keeping everything crossed that this is your time ladies (cheesy, I know)
Also would be a complete twat if I didn't show some support to fourpaws I am truly sorry for how you have been treated by your hospital trust. I hope they suffer for what they've put you through and you get some good information from another clinic.

Hope you will accept me back one day (if there is anyone left).
I'll be along once I've kicked My travel bug and love of alcohol. One more mini break and a few social events, then I'll detox and contact the clinic about a FET....easy peasy, lemon squeezy...😏

Hey Sara, we are hoping for January as well so I will join you in hobby search.

Thanks pebbles, maybe my love of prosecco could become my hobby until then. Always been a white wine girl but developed a liking for fizz of late. Am blaming the hot tub........

Such an enormous thank you to you all for your congrats. Potatoes, Icy, Fourpaws, Robber, ChattyCat, Banana, Kiwi, Zenzie, Graceflorrick, Tammy, Beanhunter, Karla, PeaOp, Tigerdog, Pebbles, Sara....what a lovely warm feeling to have so many online friends who could care less. Probably the only place where I have ever felt that other women genuinely are pleased for others good fortune, when life isn't necessarily going particularly well for them.

Big congrats to Icy too - one of my great idols since March when I watched her tear apart some silly woman who wanted to join the thread because she so desperately wanted a third child as long as it was a girl.

PeaOp - two Frosties - what a result!! Well done you, what a lovely feeling to have something in the fridge. If my round doesn't work I have to start all over again, so I now understand how valuable some FEs can be.

Tammy what a result!! And full ICSI worked for me...my DH sperm is 'normal' but we went from 20% fertilisation in March with normal IVF to 80% a few weeks ago with ICSI. So I am a fan! Let us know tomorrow...

And for those concerned about being left alone - I felt that back in March after my poor frozen round. Thought by the time I returned in August everyone would be gone. It doesn't seem to work that way, and I have loved returning to some fabulously pregnant ladies, some still working on it, and some lovely new friends. The shelf has become more colourful and supportive, not empty or anyone flying solo.

To finish on me for today - my first beta HCG on 8dp5dt has come back at 41, so all ok for now. Absolutely no complacency - so far to go to reach happy and healthy 12 week scan with good panorama / harmony test. But I love knowing you are all here either way.

lh cautiously hopeful is where I'm at. OH doesn't believe that tests done before the clinic says so are accurate. Hmm. Aaahhh I remember that fucking batshit bitch. Good times..?!

Day 3 of no shitting, Cyclogest has caught up with me! Can't complain. Just - ugh - got to eat fibre and healthy shit.

fourpaws how are you feeling now about clinics etc? Have you had time to discuss with DH?

Hobby ideas: if you have the space - what about buying old shitty pine furniture online and tarting it up upcycling it with chalk paint & making some cash on?

I do a bit of online copy work (at work, LOL, I draft my jobs in outlook so I look like I'm actually working...) using copify.com. It's like 1p a word but making £2.50 here and there is quite addictive. And keeps mind busy!

Reading books, box sets, candy crush...?!

Lh I'm so pleased to hear that icsi worked so well. I'm hoping it'll be the same for us in a few weeks time - at least it can't be any worse than the rubbish IVF cycle was.

Icy - one of my fertile friends did share with me as though she was about to give me some groundbreaking revelation 'you do know you can test BEFORE your period is due don't you?!' No? Had no frickin idea (I've not been doing that for the last 30 months!) perhaps I could ask her to have a word with your DP for you? Oh and congratulations by the way! Awesomest news. Will you hang around though (she says selfishly)? I know I've only joined the thread recently but I have lurked from your very first post and would miss your cynicism and wit!

Lh - congratulations also!

Kiwi - I'm sorry you have had similar baby bomb sobbing episodes :s I've got this pit of my stomach dreading feeling I'm going to get one from my next door neighbour soon. If I'm right, the only option will be move house.

Thank you Closephine!

closephine what the actual... Test BEFORE your period is due?! Get away. Your friend is groundbreaking. If I were being charitable, I suppose she meant well, but Jesus people just don't think do they. It would be like talking to someone with, I don't know, a broken leg about cast options. still too early to feel the FET worked... I didn't test today as yesterday was a faint +ve and it takes what 48 hours for hcg to double (plus i did a 4 am pee and tears downstairs in my fertility drawer. Must relocate). Don't see myself leaving the barren ghetto. Even if this works out I'm still a barren fiend!

IVF being discussed on radio 4 today now. Should be a good debate - catch up on iplayer!!

Glitter shit all.

Icy, I hear you - I did another test this morning and am now irritable because the line wasn't any darker then yesterday. BALLS.

LHReturns, step away from the pee sticks! You are pregnant atm and that's all you need to know at this point (easy for me to say, I know).

Got phone call from clinic just now, only 7 of the 11 were mature (which was what I was expecting from the last scan tbh) BUT 6 of them have fertilized, which I am so happy (and relieved, oh so relieved) about. Another call tomorrow to see if they made it overnight and then decision to transfer tomorrow (2 day) or wait until Monday (5 day). Did question about 3 day but they said it wasn't an option (?) and there is very little difference between 2 and 3 day transfer. Anyway, we should be so lucky to make it to tomorrow, don't want to count any chickens yet.

Good work tammy. Sending more glittery shit your way

Great work Tammy! The 2 - 3 day thing must be just how your clinic does it. Wouldn't worry about that.

6 fertilised eggs is a fantastic result.

Do you have a feeling about how many you would like going strong tomorrow to wait until 5 days? That was one of my big issues while I waited for the calls.

Best of luck!!