BESH - relocated to less offensive surroundings

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Hi hags, here's our new thread. Did we decide to post the BESH-tionnaire or not? I'll have to go and dig it out if so..

Newbies - we think we're much like the ladies in the 'mind-numbing boredom of infertility' thread ladies, but we can't admit defeat, oh no. After the new recruits kind of dried up over in conception, we've moved over here where there are no insta-differs to send us into fits of rage/tears.

(BESH stands for Bitter Evil Selfish Hags - named so by the Daily Mail I think...) come and be bitter about the shit-ness that is infertility with us...

Thank you Rebecca. It's been a really strange few days, the due date wasn't sad but very reflective. The weather on Monday was atrocious and when we went for a walk after it cleared up a bit, we saw the most amazing rainbow, and thought maybe it's a sign?! I'm glad we decided to go away, this would all be too intense at home. We're in limbo with the 2ww too. I'm desperately symptom spotting but deliberately didn't bring any HPTs with me... so have to wait until we get home.

Erica you've been through a lot this week but it sounds like you're in a good place now with 3 frosties. I don't know anything about FET but if you are overstimulated now, I can understand why your body would need a break.

Place enjoy your holiday. A holiday between cycles sounds ideal! I'm also not looking forward to Christmas this year, last year we escaped as we just couldn't face it.

Hi to everyone else!

Rebecca Loving the rant about Christmas!!

Hope I did not sound like a massive dick with my "only 3 frosties" pity party. I am just so scared of going through all this and mc-ing again. Having PGD seemed a bit of a security blanket in a really scary situation. At the moment it looks like we will stimm again, just give it our best in January and try and have a good sample for PGD and if it still does not work .... well, we could try egg donation I guess but I am not sure I have any enthusiasm/energy left. I need my life back. And my husband is terrified that we would end up getting lured into a million rounds, always hoping that something can be different... so in a few weeks, we are going to sit down and agree on how much longer and how much money we are willing to invest in this. Gulps!

If we FET, it would be unmedicated, apparently.

BlueRoses Getting away sounds like a plan. I am thinking of you and hoping for BFP - let's get the BESH BFP party going!

Blueroses that sounds lovely to glimpse the rainbow. I hope it represents peace and happiness for you and your DH. Think it was a genius move not to bring the HPTs - that way you'll avoid the uncertainty of early testing. Hope the change of scene is doing you good.

Erica not a pity party at all ... It's absolutely understandable why you were hoping to do PGD, to avoid yet another heartache. Sounds like a good idea to talk things through with Mr Erica and definitely prioritise your health and wellbeing above everything else. You were so Zen before this last round and I'm sorry it's thrown you into such turmoil, anyone would feel the same.

Big hugs to all hags.

Thank you Rebecca - and please keep popping by!

Mr Erica and I had more chats this week end and we stay inclined to do another round of stimms (probably early Jan) before attempting to transfer. And after that... well, it depends on whether we get the chance of trying more than one transfer (these three embies would still have to survive the "defrosting", right? and see what we would produce on a second round) but I think this is it for us. And I am fine with it, actually. It would suck and I would probably go through a grieving period and so on and so on. But I talk to people that have had IVF 7 times (and succeeded on the 8th!) and I just cannot see myself going down this road for much longer. I think it is a lot because of the mc-s, they have taken so much out of us...

Oh, that was cheery!

Anyway, sanity sort of restored. Now waiting for the droid so we can figure out dates!

How is everyone else doing?

So I decided to test early today as it's DH's birthday... I got a second pink line, I can't quite believe it. I'm 9dp5dt, it's faint but definitely there, hopefully will get stronger by OTD on Wednesday. DH over the moon.

Blueroses that is fabulous news, congratulations xx

Amazing news BlueRoses! Congrats!

Blueroses Ahhhhhh!!! So happy for you! Really hope the line continues to get darker this week.

Thanks hags 😊

That's brilliant news Blueroses!!!!!! So glad the test was worth the wait. And Happy Birthday to your DH!

Blue - that's wonderful news

Congrats blue!!!!!!!

Thanks ladies, it's sinking in slowly though the nausea which started yesterday is definitely making it all feel real... Due to my complete lack of organisation this year, DH's birthday gift was a pee stick but I think he's happy with that 🤔

That's fabulous news, huge congratulations blueroses99 xx

Hi ladies, you may have already seen it but if not the panorama programme on BBC 1 last night was on fertility treatments and was very interesting, may be worth a look if you've got a free half hour xx

I saw it and it was interesting but I'm not sure what their conclusion was other than desperate couples being ripped off by unscrupulous clinics for unproven treatments. They were not trying to promote proper clinical trials or even consider why that might not be feasible (who wants to sign up for a trial and risk being in the control group - esp if you're paying for it. They were not saying that the treatments were ineffective, just that they were unproven and the risks were not properly explained or understood. It wasn't fair and balanced and made me quite angry actually

Anyways, AFM it's my OTD today, the lines on the FR have got darker everyday and there is a definite 'Pregnant 2-3 weeks' on the clear blue digital from the clinic, so it's official! I am booked in for a scan on 14th December. I also need to get into the NHS system pretty quick as I need to get a cervical stitch arranged and the consultant advised that I get a referral to the EPU because of my history.

Hey, just checking in, how's everyone doing?

I feel like I might have killed the thread

Happy New Year Hags. Here's to a better 2017 for all of us 🎉

Happy new year 😀 🎉 Hope you are well x

Happy New Year's to you all. Here's hoping it's a good one for all of us.
I've been quiet because I've had 2 miscarriages at Christmas time so I find it is a really difficult time for me. I've been signed off with PTSD and post natal depression from having 3 miscarriages in 16 months.

I'm hoping the rest of you lovely ladies are ok xx

K8liz take all the time you need, you've been on a rough journey

Hello all, just checking in too. I frequently come back to the board to see what is happening but all quiet. Just hoping everyone in the trenches is doing OK and thinking about you all. Christmas time sucks when going through infertility. Hoping that 2017 brings you all happiness. xxx

(I also check back frequently - much love to the besh)

Hi. Do any of you lovely ladies know how long a day 21 blood test - checking egg quality- takes to come back? Also what is a good number. My consultant didn't say. She just said if my eggs weren't if good enough quality, I wouldn't be able to have IVF on the NHS xx

Day 21 just checks for ovulation - progesterone levels only tell you if you've ovulated or not. They don't tell you anything about the egg other than it it was released or not

There is no test for egg quality - the only test is doing IVF and seeing how the embryos develop

Day 3 FSH can give an indication of ovarian reserve, and high FSH MAY be an issue for some CCGs for NHS funding. However if you have decent AMH or antral follicle count many local policies say you can still be eligible for funding as long as you meet one of the ovarian reserve criteria. Check with your CCG for their IVF policy