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Anyone else having IVF for second child after IVF for first?!?

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Bunnygirlie · 11/01/2016 20:18

Hello!

We had IVF ICSI in January 2014 which resulted in our little boy born in October 2014. We started trying again when he's was 9 months hoping that nature would be on our side this time but after 3 months we decided to speak to the FC again to see if it was even worth bothering to try naturally. It wasn't and so we are to start IVF again very soon.

Looking for others going through the same thing if possible to be my buddy's Smile

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sunshineonarainyday1 · 14/08/2016 19:40

Ah bless you Hun, as if the 2ww wasn't stressful enough! At least it's brown... You did fresh cycle didn't you? Could be from the prodding and poking earlier in the week.

All went well at transfer. Transferred 5 day blasto which was top grade. Was starting to hatch when they showed us it on the screen! My otd is 21st so a week today.....going to be the longest week ever! I have no idea what the outcome will be. I can't even remember what I felt in Feb when we had a failed fresh cycle....let alone two years ago when it worked first time. Trying not to second guess everything and just trying positive thinking for a change!

Was yours a 5 day-er?

Smileybobs29 · 14/08/2016 20:04

I know it's so stressful isn't it! I really don't know how I did it last time around! Yeah I was a fresh cycle, trying not to worry too much with it being brown and still early after ET. Are you feeling anything or just normal? I really wish I'd have kept a diary last time so I could remember what it was like but then I'd probably compare every little thing which may not be a good thing! Yeah I had a 5 day blasto transferred top grade too Smile and a better grade then DS was first time round, hoping that's a good sign.
Your absolutely right you have to not try second guess it'll drive you crazy and can't be good, don't see how your meant to stay calm for 2 weeks though! Isn't it funny how we've got different otd's, I'll still have 2 days of misery to get through when you do yours, keeping everything crossed for us xx

sunshineonarainyday1 · 14/08/2016 21:36

Not really had any.signs so far to be honest. I super tired (like so tired I'm going to bed now at 930pm!) But I know the medication can cause this so not looking into it at all.

Yeah it is funny we have different test dates. This is the third test date I've had (2 fresh and 1 FET in tital so far) and all have been on the same number of days post transfer. Hard as it is, guess it's better having later test date as you'll be more sure of the result. Do you just do a clear blue and contact clinic or do you have hcg bloods? My clinic just does home pregnancy testing and then scan at 6 or 7 weeks. I remember first time round the wait was never over! Wait to test, wait for scan, wait to be discharged, wait for booking appt, wait for dating scab etc etc.....just hoping I get to do all that waiting this time round! Lol.

Smileybobs29 · 14/08/2016 22:09

Is this your FeT or frozen? The clinic gave me a test unbranded in a plain packet but just like a clear blue, my clinic is same as yours just a hpt then scan 3 weeks later, I agree it's all wait wait wait constantly! Well have faith 3rd time lucky!! I don't know how I'm gonna last another 9 days I'm so agitated! X

sunshineonarainyday1 · 15/08/2016 10:23

This is our 1st FET(got another 3 in the freezer should we need them). My only problem is, this is our 3rd transfer but our first worked to give ua our DD so technically that's our 1 in 3 success.... So part of me thinks this isn't going to work. But that's the pessimist in me.

Are you off for the 2ww? Ive taken it as sick. ..find work is too stressful at the best of times so want to give this my best shot and being home "chilling" (with a toddler!!) Best option for me

Smileybobs29 · 15/08/2016 10:56

I don't think those statistics apply to all cases particularly those where a successful cycle has happened my doc told me chances go up quite significantly if you have had a previous successful cycle! So try think like that. I've got 2 Frosties if I need them.
Yes I'm a teacher so purposefully timed it in the holidays so I have plenty of Time off which I don't have to explain to my boss!
Best option if you have a stressful job I'd say.
I'm just waiting for a call from the clinic, I rang them this morning after finding even more brown discharge, seems to be coming out with the mess from the pessaries and not on its own if that makes sense but I'm still really starting to panic now, i need some reassurance from them in going insane, I really don't know how I'm going to last another week, why is this so damn hard, I'm really feeling sorry for myself today! X

sunshineonarainyday1 · 15/08/2016 14:58

Aww smiley, hope the clinic have got back to you with some reassurance now. That's great you're a teacher and don't have to worry about taking time off. Have they been understanding with scan appts etc? Do you teach highschool or primary?

GilbertBlythe4JM · 15/08/2016 16:10

I just rang my clinic as my period has started to book in my next (and final) fet, only to be told the clinic has a shut down every September for cleaning or something - I wasn't really listening - so I have to wait another month to start. So annoying!!! I too am a teacher and this means fet will now be towards the end of term when I'm knackered. Grrrr. So typical of ivf - so glad I'm now used to the total lack of control otherwise I'd have been devastated! It has taught me to live day by day.....xx

GilbertBlythe4JM · 15/08/2016 16:11

PS I can't believe neither of you get a blood test from your clinic - that seems crazy!

sunshineonarainyday1 · 15/08/2016 17:26

Oh Gilbert that's so frustrating. A whole blimming month?! How dirty is it?! Lol. Hopefully you can try to enjoy the rest of the summer hols and make the most of a few more weeks off. Although it still sucksAngry

Funnily enough I'm just reading my Zita West Fertility book and actually on the section "testing for pregnancy". Says that some clinics will offer a blood test and most clinics offer urine test. I always find it strange with mine that they don't give me the hpt.....pay ridiculous amounts of money and then need to spend another tenner on a test!

GilbertBlythe4JM · 15/08/2016 17:45

Do they tell you which one to buy? They all detect different amounts of hcg....

Smileybobs29 · 15/08/2016 18:05

Yes sunshine they phoned me back, very reassuring, says its old blood and unlikely to be connected to my period and quite common, think you had this too didn't you Gilbery? However, I'm not going to take it as gospel and get my hopes up I'll just take it day by day. Still a nervous wreck mind spent most the morning crying I just couldn't stop!
I teach primary sunshine, work don't know there's only been a few apps that have interfered with work so I've just asked for my planning and paper work time during that time and just said I had docs app.
I agree it's ridiculous! My clinic do give me a test to use though, can't believe you have to provide your own after spending all that money!
What's your head like Gilbert, understanding? That sucks you have to wait a month seems like forever when you want to get started but it will fly by I'm sure, maybe a slight break will be good for your body too. Xx

GilbertBlythe4JM · 15/08/2016 18:25

My head is amazing - she had a difficult time having children so is immensely sympathetic. I was the first woman at my school who'd had it - I took the two week wait off for my third and fourth rounds - since then two more women have gone through it and also taken the 2ww off - I like to think I set a precedent! One has a little boy, another is due in December. All good xx

sunshineonarainyday1 · 15/08/2016 21:23

Gilbert they told me to buy Clear blue but not the digital one as the meds interfere with the results.

Smiley glad to hear they said it's just old blood and not to worry. Sorry to hear you were upset this morning.....totally normal tho given this stupid rollercoaster ride we are all on.

Sounds like you're both in good places of work. And that's great your head knows exactly what you're going through Gilbert. I have been very honest with my boss but he has two children conceived with no issues and I feel no matter how much I explain things he doesn't really fully understand....like the sort of understanding you can only really have if you've been through it. But fair play as long as I keep him in the loop he has no issues with any of my appts, time off etc.

HollyHx · 17/08/2016 13:07

How are you doing Smiley? I hope you’re feeling a bit better. I had brown discharge/spotting on my successful cycle too. I spotted right up until 8 weeks when I had a big bleed but all was okay. Stressful though. Hope you’re managing to keep distracted. Glad that the clinic offered reassurance. I think spotting is really common with IVF.
How are you sunshine? Keep going with the positive thinking. Will you test early?
I see what you mean about 6 cycles Gilbert. It is such an emotional roller-coaster (not to mention costly) that we can’t put ourselves through too many and the fact we have already had success means we can draw a line. I say that now though, don’t know how I’ll feel if it gets to the point we don’t have anymore frosties…
So frustrating that you can’t go this cycle Gilbert. Grrr! We are on a month off too so we will be cycling at the same time in Sept. Rubbish for you that it will be slap back in the middle of a busy term. I work in an office so the stress is always the same level (but not at the level of teaching!). It’s getting tricky to make up excuses for all of the appts though, particularly when it’s the third one. I told them last time but haven’t this time around. It’s easier without the pressure. I have been back to work after ET both times so might think about taking at least the whole day of ET off this time around.
We have a follow up appt on 1st Sept (which I think will be around start of my next cycle) to discuss the previous rounds. I don’t think they will have anything additional to say but it’s included in the cycle and I think it will be good for us to talk it through and see if there is anything else they recommend.
P.S I don’t get a blood test either, just a regular HPT – they do provide it though at least!

sunshineonarainyday1 · 17/08/2016 15:15

Hey holly I definitely recommend taking the time off. I went to doc today to get signed off for the rest of the week and could have had "medical procedure" put on it if my boss didn't know we'd had IVF. So you can still keep it to yourself but have the time off sick.

I am doing ok thanks. Not testing early....I'm a bit superstitious and think if I test early it won't work (although last time I didn't test early and it still didn't work!). Last time I started bleeding 2 days before test day so if I can get through Friday without bleeding I'll be one step closer. And then Saturday.....and then Sunday morning bright and early test. Probably won't sleep sat night if I haven't bled by then!

Remind me, how many frosties do you have left? Gosh how stressful your first pregnancy must have been, spotting until 8 weeks. My mum's a midwife and does say it's ridiculously common but that doesn't help relieve the stress I bet.

Smiley how are you doing? How you're staying strong my lovely Flowers

GlummyMummy · 17/08/2016 20:10

Hi folks, well once again I've not had to wait too long during two week wait, period came on 7 days after embryo transfer ( managed two days longer than last time!!!!)

I actually did some sneaky tests early and they were positive but now bleed has come on, test is negative. I was totally expecting it, though must admit the positive tests early did give me a tiny glimmer of hope.

Hard to think that I've still got a few days to go before official test date....what a long two weeks it's been!!! Sunshine-admire your restraint at not testing early!

GilbertBlythe4JM · 17/08/2016 20:24

Oh I'm so sorry to hear that glummy - it sounds like an evil chemical. Welcome to the (crap) club. I don't blame you for early testing - I can never resist! What will your plan be now? Hugs to you xxx

GlummyMummy · 17/08/2016 20:57

Thanks Gilbert. Yeah, I don't know whether it's better that it implanted or worse as it gave me false hope.

We actually managed to freeze two embryos so will speak to Drs and find out how that all works (FET uncharted territory for us.) I don't think I'd be able to give up without trying them, though it's so expensive as we've self funded throughout, never mind the emotional side and what all this is doing to my body!!

sunshineonarainyday1 · 17/08/2016 20:59

Oh glummy I'm so sorry to hear that. That's so poo. I hope you're doing something nice this evening even if its just eating some naughty food. I'm so sorry that I didn't realise you were in 2ww also. That's rubbish of me. Was this a fresh cycle or frozen?

GlummyMummy · 17/08/2016 21:03

No worries Sunshine, I was keeping a low profile so you weren't to know. This was our third fresh cycle.

It's nice to be able to eat what I want again that's for sure!!!

How are you?

sunshineonarainyday1 · 17/08/2016 22:01

Two in the freezer still gives you a good shot. I was disappointed in February when our fresh cycle didn't work but then I read that some clinics freeze all from fresh and only do FETs. Our clinic gave us improved chances for an FET compared to fresh.

Are you keen to get going asap after your month off? Will you look to start asap and transfer in sep or wait until sep to start the process? Does your clinic do down regging with an FET cycle? Mine doesn't typically but I did this time round as my attempt at FET in may led to me ovulating annoyingly.

sunshineonarainyday1 · 17/08/2016 22:02

Sorry for the ridiculous amount of questions!!

Smileybobs29 · 17/08/2016 22:17

Hiya ladies, feeling a lot better now thank you, think I just needed a really good cry to pick myself back up again. Trying my very best to keep distracted and calm, difficult though!
Did you really Holly, can you remember when it started? It has settled right down now (touch wood) but is there slightly still when I wipe after using the loo.
I had a big bleed at 6 weeks too last time but all was fine. You just assume the worst don't you and I don't think I had any on my first go but suppose every time is different!
Glad your doing ok, bet you just can't wait to get started again, keep the faith, I know it is so gruelling going over and over again but be worth it when it finally works! And agree even just the ET day off work at least would be good for you xx
Hope your ok too sunshine only few more days now for you, yeah I'm trying to stay strong with the help of my DS who has no idea what's going on but just keeps hugging me telling me it'll be alright! Plus think you lot are keeping me as sane as I can be! Xx

Smileybobs29 · 17/08/2016 22:40

so sorry to hear that glummy how bloody disappointing especially to get the bfp first, hope your ok, I really hate this 2ww ibusiness it's torture!! Xx