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Anyone Starting IVF? Join Me (4)

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bessie84 · 19/08/2015 20:23

The other thread reached 1000 comments, so having to start a new one.

A puff of Babydust to all Star

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lildottie · 19/08/2015 22:42

place marking

Shellster52 · 20/08/2015 01:41

4 pills left lil!

Thanks for that m/c statistics website cat. Lucky I am in the low 2.1% range now that you have shown it to me, or I would be stressing at my high odds!

Shellster52 · 20/08/2015 01:58

Just read the last few posts of the old thread and want to say a huge congratulations to Toes. I understand feeling cautious after your last m/c. I too had a m/c after my 2nd last IVF, (but mine was much earlier than yours) so I totally get you not feeling at ease until you see a strong heartbeat at that ultrasound. But still, it's exciting to get a BFP and be in with a chance rather than the BFN alternative. Keep us posted.

Waitingimpatient · 20/08/2015 07:21

Hello everyone

lildottie · 20/08/2015 08:20

shit only 4? you're right! it's starting to get real again. though I seem to have misplaced my PMA!

Elektra83 · 20/08/2015 14:05

Hi all, can I join?

deadomestica100 · 20/08/2015 14:10

Eating clean ( lots of green veg) helps and 30 mins cardio a day helps with IVF

Blackandwhitecat3 · 20/08/2015 20:22

Found you all! Just going to add another bit of baby dust so the embryo fairy remembers to drop round Star

Waitingimpatient · 20/08/2015 20:31

I've been trying to eat really well but never manage the 30 mins a day cardio (I walk everywhere as don't drive though I'm hoping that sort of counts!)
As well as lots of veg and salad I've also upped my intake of things like nuts and seeds, eggs and fish on the advice of my acupuncturist.

I'm taking my ferrous sulphate religiously too. I often forget but I've got a pill box as I know I can't afford to let my iron level drop (I'm frequently anaemic) and I'm worried if I'm not 100% ovulation won't happen

patch77 · 20/08/2015 20:57

Can I join too, my meds are being delivered tomorrow ready to start next week?

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Elbbob · 20/08/2015 21:00

Hello - would anyone mind giving me some advice? I am on my first ivf, long protocol, am starting merinol in 4 days and need to take 450 dose. The nurse said to inject 3 vials + water in one side of my tummy and then another 3 vials + water in the other side.

My question is - can I use the same syringe for both? I am asking because I have a ton of the large and small needles so have plenty to enable me to use 4 each evening, but hardly any syringes - is that because I only need to use one for both sets of three?

In addition to the merinol I am taking suprecur so need a syringe for that too!

lildottie · 20/08/2015 21:08

EB is the merinol the stimms drug? I'm on menopur so maybe it's different but I have to mix all the drugs with just 1ml of water otherwise it dilutes the dose. I'd phone clinic if I were you and quadruple check.

lildottie · 20/08/2015 21:09

Hi patch, sorry didn't mean to ignore you!

Elbbob · 20/08/2015 21:31

Hi lildottie yes it's the stims med - sorry its merional, I spelt it incorrectly. I know the dose it is defnitely 225 + 1 vial of water x 2. I just need to know if I can use the same syringe! I've googled and not found anything...
The nurse at the clinic was rude so I want to avoid asking them if I can!

CatnipMouse · 20/08/2015 21:46

Hello, a new thread seems like a good place to unlurk and join in :0)

I'm looking at starting my second fresh IVF cycle towards the end of October I think. The first fresh go was BFN, but a subsequent FET cycle resulted in a pregnancy! Sadly it didn't work out and I miscarried about a month ago. It's been tough but I found out that there was a severe chromosomal issue with the baby which meant it was never going to end well, and that knowledge helps a bit. Hopefully this new cycle will produce a few good eggs for a healthy one next time... This is a long old journey though, isn't it.

Elbbob, sorry I haven't used merional so I can't help there, but if you aren't sure about anything ask the clinic not Dr Google :0)

marmaladeandjam11 · 20/08/2015 22:04

Elbbob yes you use the same syringe but a different needle. You use the larger needle to mix and then use the fine needle to inject. If the nurses are rude, perhaps say something, IVF is stressful enough without dealing with an attitude.

marmaladeandjam11 · 20/08/2015 22:09

Elbbob, I'm referring here to the merional - just seen your higher post about using two different drugs, merional and suprecar. Use different syringes and needles for both drugs.

lildottie · 20/08/2015 22:54

supercur is just small needle, no mixing. glad I'm on menopur elb. my 225 dose is 3 "tablets" mixed with 1ml water and injected all together. I agree you shouldn't have to deal with rude nurses. either explain to her firmly that unlike her you don't generally make a habit of doing this every day, or complain about her. I am so lucky with the nurses at my clinic,they are amazing!

rachyb1981 · 21/08/2015 08:47

Hi all, I hope you don't mind me joining in. I am due to go for my consultant appointment at St Mary's in Manchester next week to review my baseline results and discuss treatment options. I feel really anxious and impatient - I just want to get going after waiting for so long! Unfortunately we only get one NHS cycle so there are a lot of hopes pinned on this. I thought it might be a good idea to join in with a thread like this for some support through my journey.

Waitingimpatient · 21/08/2015 12:34

Hi rachy

I know what you mean about the waiting and anxiety (hence my username!)
I feel like all I do is wait !

Hopefully your appt will go well and you can get started asap

Vixxfacee · 21/08/2015 20:36

Hi everyone, can I join?

Had my pre ivf appointment last month and have my next ivf appointment in 2 weeks. I am not sure but think it's to actually start the process.

Does anyone have any tips? I just saw about 30 minutes exercise and eating clean.

lildottie · 22/08/2015 16:29

Hi vix, hope your appointment goes well. my advice would be 1000mg vit c to improve sperm, high protein low carb to increase chances of successful outcome.

ToesAndFingersCrossed · 23/08/2015 00:23

Hello everyone, so many newbies. It's sad we're all here on one hand, but on the other hand this is such a fantastic thread full of incredibly supportive and understanding women who will answer all your questions, no matter how embarrassing!

Not sure about this whole "eating clean" nonsense if I'm honest. Eat a healthy balanced diet, but don't say no to cake if that's what you want. If you forbid yourself from eating things, the guilt and stress you feel if you break the rules will be far more harmful to you than a bowl of ice cream ever was! I'm not saying surviving on a diet of Big Macs is good for anyone, never mind if you're about to start growing a baby, but if anyone needs to be cut some slack it's us IVF ladies, with the amount we're going through already. Especially if you've had weeks of injections, then an operation, then worrying about your embryos, and after all that, all you have to eat is a salad? Even the doctors in my clinic say to go home and have some cake and a glass of wine after egg collection to relax!

I'd be very careful about the 30 minutes of cardio too - consult your doctor before drastically changing any existing habits, I was told to do less running while doing IVF. Obviously everyone's different, I have a friend who is very active and cycled everywhere until her 40th week of pregnancy, but I wouldn't because I don't already if you see what I mean.

bananafish81 · 23/08/2015 00:52

Hi Vixx - nice to see you here Smile

How did your appointment go?

In terms of advice / tips, just worth mentioning that amongst the various supplements that are recommended for IVF prep, as it might pop up at some point, DHEA is one that's not advised for women with PCOS, as it increases androgen levels.

My consultant said I was fine to take it as I'm now presenting as a very poor responder with diminished reserves, and no longer presenting as PCOS - but in 'normal' PCOS ladies, it's def to be avoided.
xx

bananafish81 · 23/08/2015 01:01

Well, will see what my consultant has to say when I see him week after next, but I’ve read some really interesting stuff from a fertility clinic in NYC that specialises in treating women with diminished ovarian reserve (DOR) and premature ovarian ageing (POA), and they say they treat a quite a lot of slim women who were given a lean PCOS diagnosis when younger, and who then come to the clinic in their 30s with POA. They call it ‘burning out PCOS’ - the ovaries got used to being in a hyper-androgenic state (too much testosterone) when younger and burned through eggs at a faster rate, and then presenting with a hypo-androgenic state (too little testosterone) when older.

It seems to be a particular genetic mutation, and it all pretty much seems to fit exactly with what’s happened to me. There’s one study that even says they start to see patients presenting with DOR at around 32/33. I am 33! When I presented as PCOS I had acne, and my testosterone was in the middle of normal range - now I have no acne, and my testosterone was barely detectable in my recent bloods.

So if I have this shitty gene, I’ll know it was just my lot, and the tests weren’t wrong, but we’ll know what we’re dealing with. And apparently androgen supplementation can make a significant difference (am already on DHEA which is something) Oh, and this gene also apparently guarantees autoimmunity which makes implantation less likely and the risk of miscarriage much higher, without aggressive immune treatment. Brilliant.

See what the Dr says. It might not be this, but it certainly seems the most logical explanation for my mysterious un-polycystic-ing and disappearance of all my eggs...