Assisted conception after recurrent miscarriage part 5

[Mel3062]

Hope this is right ladies ...

[brownstag]

Good news, Pebbles and Sue.

[duggs1976]

Hi brown yes I can freelance (I'm in marketing) and I have applied for voluntary work as of yesterday. Totally agree with you I need to keep busy. X

[brownstag]

Good idea; having something to novel to take up your attention is a good thing. Sometimes when I feel really low I decide to do a sponsored event; it's something else to think about and organise and at the end of it, you've helped some cause, even if it hasn't got you any nearer to having a baby. Although this year I thought it would be a bit churlish to ask people to sponsor me to lose the same stone they sponsored me to lose last year, and have put back on post-pregnancy/pred, so I'll have to think of something else! Interestingly, a friend of mine in Peckham has just retired and has applied to do voluntary work in various sectors. And because there are so many people unemployed, and recent graduates looking to put something on their CVs, there are actually waiting lists to do voluntary work in some fields!

[duggs1976]

Well yes it isn't as easy as I thought it would be it always seems to be hour by hour with me up and down rather than day to day. I have about 50 different thoughts and ideas in a day. DH says he is struggling to keep up with the constant chopping and changing this time especially.

[suemays]

duggs I think the best way to look at it is that you haven't been TTC for nearly 4 years as over 2 of those were looking for the cause of the miscarriages. I would say you have been realistically trying with a good chance of pregnsncy since you had the hidden infection tests done. Then add to that the damage the steroids have done over the last few years, it has taken time for your body to heal and get back into balance. Bearing in mind it takes as average couple with no known factors to conceive in a year, you are probably not far from that. I know its frustrating as I feel the same but I still think hydroxy and Chinese medicine will help you.

[suemays]

I agree to keep busy. I am finding it hard forcing myself to relax. My acupuncturist told me today that my pulses are tired so I need to try and have an afternoon nap. Lucky that I haven't got much freelance work in at the moment!

[brownstag]

Well put, Sue.

[suemays]

I have got my first scan booked with the Silverstar high risk pregnancy unit in Oxford on 21st October. I will be about 9.5 weeks by then. Trying to hold out until that scan unless of course I start bleeding first. I can't see the point in having a 7 wk scan as the baby can still die at 8 weeks. I have had that before where we saw a heartbeat at 8 weeks and then the baby died a few days later. Scans stress me so much and I think its not good for the baby so I would rather avoid them. So for now I will stay in denial and try to think that everything is ok.

pebbles have you decided what to do yet??

[suemays]

pebbles I get progesterone, preds and hydroxy on the nhs plus don't pay for it now I am pregnant. My gp writes the prescription for me. I am going to try and get the clexane too as they have letters from mr ndukwe detailing the drugs I should be taking. I think clexane is a standard pregnancy drug so they might go for it!!

[Pebbles73]

We hear you Duggs and know exactly how you are feeling. The whole thing gets exhausting and very, very frustrating and you have to watch all your friends family etc just pop babies out like there is no tomorrow!! Work is defo a good distraction when you are ready, in the meantime some wine and and some plans to do nice things are good to have to look forward to. Sending big hugs and thinking of you.

Think we are going to risk paying out for intralipids and not have a scan, watch this space though as am sure will cave in. Just so terrified of going for scan and finding this is all over, never got this far before.... I know onviously there is a high chance I won't get much further going by everybody else's experience......

[suemays]

pebbles you can't judge your pregnancy by others. This could be your time so try and stay as positive as you can. Make sure you repeat that to me when I am having a wobble! It's great you have got this far. Are you feeling sick yet?

[Pebbles73]

I hope so, surely after all these years?!

Have nit had much in way of sickness, once in car and furry for tmi but was sick in my mouth couple of evenings ago. Not been feeling quite so turned today just felt a bit weak and shaky in the afternoon. I find after I eat is slimiest like having low blood sugar. How about you?

[suemays]

I am two weeks behind you but have been feeling a bit dizzy and queasy. I feel really bloated too! I really hope this works out for you!!

[Pebbles73]

Sorry for all the mistakes, b**y i phone!!

[Mel3062]

Bfn on frer :( I'm taking that's a chemical pregnancy? Never had one before I don't like it :(
Still worrying its because I took that injection :/

[brownstag]

So very sorry, Mel. I wouldn't worry at all about the injection. It's nothing you've done. xxx

[Mel3062]

It's so cruel. I'm wondering what prof quenby will say I wonder if I do need cyclogest from ovulation.

[Mel3062]

HAs anyone had this on hydroxy then conceived successfully??

[duggs1976]

Sorry mel. Freelance, sue, choccy (I believe) all had chemicals on dr a programme. Sue had a few. I had one in January. Is just because we are testing so early is not considered a mc by doctors in terms of "how many you've had" or chances in future. Usually a chromosonal defect which your body just deals with. That is standard explanation. Whether the nk cells have anything to do with them we will never know but has no effect on your chances. X

[duggs1976]

Dr s I meant not dr a I phone

[Mel3062]

Thanks duggs x

[Arianrhod]

So sorry mel - I'd echo what duggs has said, remember if we weren't testing so early we wouldn't even know about most of these 'chemicals', our AFs would perhaps be a few days late but you wouldn't really think much of it. Chromosomal issues are unfortunately very common, gutting though it is for us. And absolutely no way would one Clexane injection cause any problems at all - remember it's just a blood thinner, it won't have had any negative impact at all.

[Pebbles73]

Oh st Mel am so sorry, what did your blood test show? As Ari said the clexane wouldn't have caused an issue so don't worry about that.

[suemays]

mel I am so sorry you have had a chemical. I had one in jan 2012 and then one in march 2012 and was

[suemays]

On mr shehatas plan inc steroids and intrallipids but not hydroxy. I started taking it about 3 weeks before I had the 2nd chemical so I think it wasn't in my system long enough. It's hard to know if its a chromosome, implantation or immune problem when its so early. If it has to fail, its best its so early on as you can try again next month. I was put on an enforced 3 cycle break after my 2nd cp and then conceived again at the end of may.

Were you on superov as one of the fertility consultants I have seen said that if the hcg injection is taken after the egg has released it can cause damage to the developing embryo and cause implantation failure?