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Missing Woman Nicola Bulley 2

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justgettingthroughtheday · 05/02/2023 15:23

Just thought I'd create a second thread for those following this case.

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Judashascomeintosomemoney · 05/02/2023 18:33

SirVixofVixHall · 05/02/2023 18:09

They said over a “waist length coat”, (which is a jacket, surely) , I think it is unlikely that she wore an ankle length puffa type gilet over the puffa coat pictured. That would surely be too bulky to move in easily ?

The Facebook page supporting the search (who are very supportive of the police effort so far and are not entertaining any criticism of them) have made it very clear that these images are:
A. Definitely the outfit she was wearing when she went missing (the difference in colour may be due to it being cctv image and slightly distorting the colour)
and
B. Absolutely does tally with the police description.

If you look closely on an enlarged image you can just about make out that it does look like a sleeveless gilet over another full sleeve coat/jacket. However what it isn’t is an ankle length gilet. And that is definitely the description that Superintendent Sally Riley gave when she asked people to think whether they may have seen her - an ankle length blacked quilted gilet jacket. But if their description of the clothing does not tally with the actual clothing then it’s no wonder they didn’t get people coming forward initially.

NothingButAWalkover · 05/02/2023 18:34

confounded234 · 05/02/2023 17:29

Unfortunately for every crime solved by police, there are plenty that have been mucked up by them too. Plenty of awful crimes have had huge errors by the police, things that would just seem basic stuff really.

Correct

MissingMoominMamma · 05/02/2023 18:34

Her phone was on the bench; the harness and lead were on the ground between the bench and the river. She always took them off the dog so she could run around. Her friend has done an interview explaining Nicola’s routine. Nothing was out of the ordinary until she vanished.

Crumpetdisappointment · 05/02/2023 18:36

i hope the specialist team, who were very proud of their expertise on GB news, do manage to find her.

Peverellshire · 05/02/2023 18:36

Is this our understanding? Witness one (W1) finds phone on ground two feet away & puts on bench, lockscreen is on & W1 half recognises woman on it but can’t get past lock screen. Speaker is poss still on & conf call in progress (?) Then W2 & W3 appear on scene & try & fail to identify phone. W4 arrives & gives view of poss a medical event causing tragic accident & mentions what may have lured dog to river.

W1 leaves after tying dog to bench & leaves phone there for partner/police. W1 calls someone, who calls school, who calls partner.

Please no conjecture or commenting on witnesses, looking at Mirror article as early source of how events unfolded. Is this your understanding of timeline?

Activelyannoyed · 05/02/2023 18:37

katseyes7 · 05/02/2023 18:27

I've seen this very recently on twitter. Hopefully this will either confirm or rule out the river theory.
twitter.com/peter_faulding/status/1622263625791455232?s=20&t=nuGEOs0EBenJQmkYjfjCjA

I suspect so. They can do 10 miles a day apparently . They are a big very high tech outfit .

I feel a bit for the police, the officer in charge right now is going to be hoping like fuck they find her, because if they don’t, the public outcry will be enormous, as it would indicate something criminal has happened.

I suspect they will find her though.

Allgoodthings1 · 05/02/2023 18:49

I found myself feeling really hopeful and relieved when I saw some extra help is coming in to search for her. Then realised the only outcome that can come from it is they find her in the river though.. which is obviously the worst case scenario for her family at this point. If they don’t find her, even by tomorrow night (when they have such a high success rate and can search such large areas per day) it’s going to raise a lot of questions over whether she’s in the river or not. It seems this Peter’s theory (and her family’s) is that she isn’t in there and we shouldn’t assume she is with no evidence.

I just saw a video on Twitter of the bench area and didn’t realise how close the campsite gate is to the bench. Also very taken aback by how many people and kids were up there taking pictures etc, no police cordon there at all.

Bluebellwood129 · 05/02/2023 18:52

Peverellshire · 05/02/2023 18:36

Is this our understanding? Witness one (W1) finds phone on ground two feet away & puts on bench, lockscreen is on & W1 half recognises woman on it but can’t get past lock screen. Speaker is poss still on & conf call in progress (?) Then W2 & W3 appear on scene & try & fail to identify phone. W4 arrives & gives view of poss a medical event causing tragic accident & mentions what may have lured dog to river.

W1 leaves after tying dog to bench & leaves phone there for partner/police. W1 calls someone, who calls school, who calls partner.

Please no conjecture or commenting on witnesses, looking at Mirror article as early source of how events unfolded. Is this your understanding of timeline?

This is the version from 2 days ago in the Mirror - this seems to have fewer people at the scene and a slightly different version of events:
www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/missing-nicola-bulley-timeline-events-29113806

ofwarren · 05/02/2023 18:57

Allgoodthings1 · 05/02/2023 18:49

I found myself feeling really hopeful and relieved when I saw some extra help is coming in to search for her. Then realised the only outcome that can come from it is they find her in the river though.. which is obviously the worst case scenario for her family at this point. If they don’t find her, even by tomorrow night (when they have such a high success rate and can search such large areas per day) it’s going to raise a lot of questions over whether she’s in the river or not. It seems this Peter’s theory (and her family’s) is that she isn’t in there and we shouldn’t assume she is with no evidence.

I just saw a video on Twitter of the bench area and didn’t realise how close the campsite gate is to the bench. Also very taken aback by how many people and kids were up there taking pictures etc, no police cordon there at all.

I don't think it is the worse scenario.
It would be worse to be abducted by some maniac and murdered.
At least the river would be quick and relatively painless.

Tannedandfake · 05/02/2023 19:03

Scautish · 05/02/2023 17:36

@LivMumsnet

“If we have to delete too many posts, we will remove this thread too“

So if I make lots of posts knowing that they break guidelines and will be deleted, will that mean you delete the thread or will I just get banned?

I think this thread is in terrible taste - this is a woman with an utterly distraught family. How crass and selfish and devoid of empathy must some posters be to see this thread as reasonable?

Completely agree!
Tho lots of comments from people that don’t live in the area, haven’t even read the police updates, and keep commenting on the same things again and again 😩🤦‍♀️

Blueberrywitch · 05/02/2023 19:03

Commonsensitivity · 05/02/2023 16:57

Apparently her spaniel was found bone dry. Spaniels are water dogs. If she had gone in the river I'm pretty sure the dog would have tried to go in after her. None of this is making any sense.

This is an excellent point. A spaniel would have jumped in after it’s owner

Roselilly36 · 05/02/2023 19:04

So sad for Nicola’s loved ones, I hope they get closure, one way or another, not having an answer to a missing person is the worst kind of limbo a family can find themselves in. I am praying Nicola will be found.

Peverellshire · 05/02/2023 19:08

@Blueberrywitch @Commonsensitivity to add that the dog seemed to love the water, again was a splash in water the typical on daily walk? In that spot? What was usual routine?

Eastie77Returns · 05/02/2023 19:14

The armchair detectives (not referring to her family and friends) who know better than actual detectives and the insistence on this thread that the police are completely incompetent because of the length of a gilet is baffling.

It is often the case in these situations that the police are aware of what happened but continue to appeal for witnesses as they build their case. An arrest or discovery may be imminent for all we know. I remember watching a documentary on the disappearance of Shannon Matthew’s. The officers involved knew within days the mother was implicated but couldn’t release that information. Meanwhile the community marched in support of the family and protested at the seemingly uncaring police who were not doing enough to find a kidnapped child.

DemBonesDemBones · 05/02/2023 19:17

@Eastie77Returns I think that is EXACTLY the case here.

Peverellshire · 05/02/2023 19:17

@Bluebellwood129 so the takeaway is now the phone wasn’t on ground two feet away but always placed on bench. Also, the witness that suggested bait luring dog to water’s edge & that Nicola may have suffered a medical emergency at scene, this was presumably incorrectly reported originally?

I think it’s important facts are set straight. Not to endlessly rehash for the wrong reasons but I know from experience the needle can get lost in the haystack. Clearly the narrative has changed & possibly amended for good reason.

Mummapenguin20 · 05/02/2023 19:18

I just hope they find her

Bluebellwood129 · 05/02/2023 19:19

@Peverellshire I don't think anyone knows how much of that is correct and what's mis-reporting.

TheUsualChaos · 05/02/2023 19:32

A lot of people seem to be focusing on the water being shallow near the bench but we don't know that she fell right there just because her things were on the bench.

With the dog being dry. Once Nicola was out of sight, the dog wouldn't have stayed in the water, it would have been running about the area, likely getting distressed because it couldn't find her. If she was last seen 9.10 and dog found 9.35, you've potentially got a good 15-20 mins there where the dog was out running about and drying off. To the person who found him, he may have looked pretty dry by that time. I don't think some one saying it was "bone dry" proves the dog was never in the water earlier on. Would they have checked the dogs coat? I doubt it, as you wouldn't be thinking like that at the time as would just be assuming an owner was somewhere nearby looking for the dog. Likely then that Willow was dry enough by that point for the witness to recall that the dog looked dry.

Bluekerfuffle · 05/02/2023 19:32

@Eastie77Returns , they generally don’t say they think something else happened (in this case, the river) if they believe something totally the opposite. I doubt they have a different theory going in the background. They have said they think the river is most likely, but appear not to have totally ruled out any other scenarios.

CromwellsPetHate · 05/02/2023 19:34

Baileysandcream · 05/02/2023 17:10

Yes there are very easily searchable reviews online that make for some very interesting reading.

Not the most welcoming of places it seems 😑

Togoodtobeforgotten · 05/02/2023 19:36

Allgoodthings1 · 05/02/2023 18:49

I found myself feeling really hopeful and relieved when I saw some extra help is coming in to search for her. Then realised the only outcome that can come from it is they find her in the river though.. which is obviously the worst case scenario for her family at this point. If they don’t find her, even by tomorrow night (when they have such a high success rate and can search such large areas per day) it’s going to raise a lot of questions over whether she’s in the river or not. It seems this Peter’s theory (and her family’s) is that she isn’t in there and we shouldn’t assume she is with no evidence.

I just saw a video on Twitter of the bench area and didn’t realise how close the campsite gate is to the bench. Also very taken aback by how many people and kids were up there taking pictures etc, no police cordon there at all.

Why do people say this??? It leads out to the Irish sea!!

justgettingthroughtheday · 05/02/2023 19:37

TheUsualChaos · 05/02/2023 19:32

A lot of people seem to be focusing on the water being shallow near the bench but we don't know that she fell right there just because her things were on the bench.

With the dog being dry. Once Nicola was out of sight, the dog wouldn't have stayed in the water, it would have been running about the area, likely getting distressed because it couldn't find her. If she was last seen 9.10 and dog found 9.35, you've potentially got a good 15-20 mins there where the dog was out running about and drying off. To the person who found him, he may have looked pretty dry by that time. I don't think some one saying it was "bone dry" proves the dog was never in the water earlier on. Would they have checked the dogs coat? I doubt it, as you wouldn't be thinking like that at the time as would just be assuming an owner was somewhere nearby looking for the dog. Likely then that Willow was dry enough by that point for the witness to recall that the dog looked dry.

My dog has been in the river today and then sunning herself in the garden for an hour on our return. She was still wet when I called her in. There is no way a dog would dry out in 20 minutes at this time of year outside.

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EasterIssland · 05/02/2023 19:40

Wish there is good information this week and she’s found. Keep feeling sorry for her chilfren

TokyoSushi · 05/02/2023 19:41

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