Missing Woman Nicola Bulley 2

How easy it is to find someone who has gone into a body of water is not just dependent on the search team and equipment, it is also very dependent on the type of water and the depth. Very big rivers near estuaries are really difficult, lots of mud and tides (Richie Edwards has never been found) . Deep, large rivers with fast moving water can mean that people are not found for many weeks, and may be found a considerable distance from where they fell in, or sadly never found at all. Deep, large lakes are also hard to search.
But in more shallow and slower moving small rivers, it is usually easier to find people quickly.
Even on land it can be surprisingly difficult, depending on the terrain. An elderly man was found alive who had fallen into a ditch and got stuck. The area had been searched but he had initially been missed because he was under vegetation. One searcher had a gut feeling, went back and amazingly she found him.
DH is in the Coastguard and trained in search and rescue, it is a difficult and painstaking process and it is amazing how easy it can be for people to remain hidden.
A friend of his found a skeleton in woodland as a teenager. That person had clearly been hidden there for some time.

I also agree with this and him acting and saying what he is doing is causing even more confusion and possibly giving the family hope when there is none? However he is really sticking his neck on the line here? To say in all his 20 years he's not come across a case like this and she would have been found within a few feet?

Attempting suicide is a bit different from walking away from your kids and deliberately leaving them thinking that you've died when you haven't though. It's highly unlikely that any mother would do that surely?

@Togoodtobeforgotten he is going to look like an idiot if they find her today.

I've had sad experience of someone who disappeared and had fallen into a river they were walking beside. Tracker dogs followed their scent to a spot where there were slight signs of a slip. Divers searched for a few days but in January visibility in a muddy bottomed river is a few inches at best. Add in junk and weeds and it's an extremely difficult task. Due to the cold it was 4 weeks before sufficient gases built up in the body and caused it to come to the surface where it was found less than 100 yards away by a dog walker. So I'm not in the least surprised that nothing has been found yet.
I also used to work for an organisation that trained accident investigators and part of that course was an exercise to show how unreliable even experts in something are as eye witnesses, so I'm also unsurprised by conflicting accounts. Especially once you add in inaccurate reporting by the press and there is likely to be information being deliberately withheld by the police for good operational reasons if there is the slightest possibility of a crime.

She probably got tired of life and took off

There are 2 caravan parks. One's a holiday site and the other's residential. She owned the holiday site, the CCTV wasn't working on the other site.

They've now got CCTV covering both exits. The only path out of the field they've not got it for us the path along the river that she initially entered the field.

@Plitvice of course it is not statistically negligible for a woman to up and leave her kids. The fact the PP "aunt" did it means people knows she did it! Very different

I am talking about these circumstances- what people are suggesting here is that she covered her tracks. It is absolutely bollocks. That is statist

What is wrong with some people on here

@countrygirl99 , @SirVixofVixHall , I was just about to post and ask similar questions. Thanks for the sharing.

@pigsinoodies statistically almost zero.

Immediately after making a playdate for her kids?

That's right. I don't think she's really capable to do it without leaving any suspicious clues. She's not a master manipulator and I don't think she'd do this to her children.

@Unicornpoop87 statistically almost zero that a mum would take off and leave her children with open ended questions.

About as likely as Bill Gates trying to poison the world with Covid vaccines

You never really know what a person is going though I just hope she is found safe for her family so sad

Maybe not but it’s been known for people to leave of there own will and not everyone is the same you don’t know what personal struggles people have, I hope she’s safe

I agree and just hope whatever it is she is found safe and well.

The problem is that if no body is found in the river near the phone, as is looking increasingly likely, then what do they do with that? Refuse to entertain the possibility she just walked off? Because if no body is found, you are left with abduction or disappearance where someone used the phone to misdirect.

You can't say that. People are genuinely concerned for this lady and for her family. The fact is you do not know as we do not know that does not make anyone mentally ill.

That does not make someone mentally sick to assume that maybe the outcome

Personally, I think she is in the water but for people who do leave their children and disappear, it may not even be a gradual thing that others saw coming. Some people share their woes, others bottle them up until breaking point and put on a happy act. Mental health can appear change at the flick of a switch no matter how perfect your life seems on paper. I think that is what is terrifying from the point of view of parents of young DC.

That’s what makes me wonder why he is so confident that if she’s there he will find her within the hour/days (depending on which version you choose).

I think he's confident because of the years and years of experience working on hundreds of cases. This guy is a close to a defintive expert of bodies missing in water as it is possible to get. There's nothing he hasn't seen before, including a murderer who used a shoe to misdirect the police into believing that someone was in a river when in fact they were buried somewhere else.

it is also worth bearing in mind that this STILL is not a criminal investigation "only" a missing person. Until it is a criminal investigation under the direction of a DCI or such like, then it is going to drift.

What would trigger it to become criminal? They would have to find a piece of evidence?
My worry is what happens if no body is found today. What do the police do then?

I’ve wondered this too