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Missing Woman Nicola Bulley 2

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justgettingthroughtheday · 05/02/2023 15:23

Just thought I'd create a second thread for those following this case.

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Activelyannoyed · 06/02/2023 17:59

User45378754 · 06/02/2023 17:41

He’s either an unprofessional opportunistic business man who has inserted himself into the story - in some ways in his earlier claims he couldn’t lose - if she wasn’t there then that’s what he claimed - if she was then he’s the hero because he found her when previous missed her.

I think he has changed his tune once he is on the inside of the investigation - he is likely to have been briefed about parallel investigations that the police need more time on - so it’s not in the investigations interest for this guy to confirm she isn’t in the 10 mile stretch within a day…..

His company is a big deal though, he really is an expert. They do work all over and also a lot of the police work in the south east, he isn’t some random self proclaimed expert running a shoe string company. They actually are the real deal and are well respected.

he seemed to have come out this morning and toed the police line,but seems to be swerving back.

Most of us have seen the divers go in and out along that bank. It’s nit a sheer drop off into the water, irs a shallow bank.

it is so hard to understand how she fell in, drowned in shallow water, no one saw her, even mins after, and no one can find her, even thermal imaging on a helicopter soon after, and none of her clothes have come off. No wellies, nothing. And that the dog didn’t go anywhere near the water.

I also don’t understand why the police said this was an incredibly safe area. This appears not to be the case.

maybe she is caught in the under growth, but I think everyone is worried something is very wrong here. So the sooner they find her the better.

as really all the police seem to know is her belongings were left there, as was the dog. They don’t even seem to know if she herself placed them there.

confounded234 · 06/02/2023 18:00

ofwarren · 06/02/2023 17:56

Hang on, why has the time changed?
I thought she was seen at 9:10?

She was. This has changed. Either someone who wrote the web page lancashire.police.uk/news/2023/february/missing-nicola-bulley-latest-update/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=Orlo cocked up, or else they were wrong before. Either way, this is not creating confidence that the police know what they are doing.

melonraspberry · 06/02/2023 18:01

@Rebel2023 yeah I think you’re right on second thoughts. Also it’s not a violent sexual assault it’s violence or sexual assaults. Could just be a pissed teenage throwing a punch at another one I guess

SirVixofVixHall · 06/02/2023 18:01

TokyoSushi · 06/02/2023 17:53

Exactly. All this focus on the river, I hope that there has been as much focus on the other things as well. Otherwise to start widening the search now after 11 days would mean that any evidence has likely disappeared.

I'm not usually like this with these things, I think it's because she's 'just like me' that it's really bothering me.

Yes, she must be like so many of us. I am in my fifties now, with teenagers, but a decade ago I had small daughters and would sometimes walk my dog by a river. She was doing something so normal and commonplace, in the daytime, in a place which other people use too, yet she just vanished. It is unnerving that she still hasn’t been found, and also painful thinking of her family and what they must be going through.

melonraspberry · 06/02/2023 18:03

The 0920 timeline makes it even more odd, as ten minutes is nothing to return from the field to the bench surely.

Such a short timeframe 0920-33 when no one saw her .

confounded234 · 06/02/2023 18:05

melonraspberry · 06/02/2023 18:03

The 0920 timeline makes it even more odd, as ten minutes is nothing to return from the field to the bench surely.

Such a short timeframe 0920-33 when no one saw her .

I'm hoping this is a typo in the police statement. If not, and now they are genuinly saying that it was 9.20, then that is the time the police have said the phone was placed there. This is turning into a complete flustercuck.....

melonraspberry · 06/02/2023 18:05

I often walk over an hour without seeing anyone in the middle of our local common. Where she was was populated, there were people around. So for me that also goes against third party involvement as the risk was huge .

CromwellsPetHate · 06/02/2023 18:06

melonraspberry · 06/02/2023 15:40

This has been a lesson in bad police comms. If they had been clearer there wouldn’t be so many inconsistencies and therefore hysteria.
And they absolutely should have closed off the area so that you couldn’t get people turning up taking selfies. Even as a public safety measure if they think she fell in, now you have dozens of people who possibly don’t know that path clambering around peering into the river . It’s absolutely nuts.

This. Controversy conjures up SM interest. It has turned into an utter chaotic spectacle, unless of course they wanted all this publicity. She's been kidnapped IMO.

pigsinoodies · 06/02/2023 18:07

melonraspberry · 06/02/2023 18:03

The 0920 timeline makes it even more odd, as ten minutes is nothing to return from the field to the bench surely.

Such a short timeframe 0920-33 when no one saw her .

I think it's a typo. The timeline at the bottom of the page makes it clear that the phone as back near the bench at 0920. They'll presumably have that time straight from a cell site so it will be accurate.

Hillsmakeyoustrong · 06/02/2023 18:07

I have also found the harness unnerving. Having read that it was routine to take off the dog's harness on entering the field and putting it back on when leaving it, I am confused as to why the dog was not wearing it. I do hope they also search the river and banks by the field she was last seen in.

melonraspberry · 06/02/2023 18:08

Now it says 0910 again! Or I’m going a bit mad.

ofwarren · 06/02/2023 18:09

melonraspberry · 06/02/2023 18:08

Now it says 0910 again! Or I’m going a bit mad.

Still says 9:20 when I check

Plitvice · 06/02/2023 18:11

Her partner found the specialist diving company through doing his own research which tells us everything we need to know about Lancashire Police.

The owner sounds like a salesman (has a book out soon) but he was keen to stress that he isn't charging anyone for his services which is a nice gesture.

He went from saying that it would typically take an hour to saying that it would take around three days.

confounded234 · 06/02/2023 18:12

ofwarren · 06/02/2023 18:09

Still says 9:20 when I check

It looks like the 9.20 in the main body of text is a typo as the time line at the bottom of the page is still saying she was last seen at 9.10am. Details matter though however and the police aren't doing themselves any favours by not getting the basics right

Allgoodthings1 · 06/02/2023 18:13

melonraspberry · 06/02/2023 18:05

I often walk over an hour without seeing anyone in the middle of our local common. Where she was was populated, there were people around. So for me that also goes against third party involvement as the risk was huge .

But if something happened in the open field when someone could easily look and see if anyone was about first would probably make them think they could get away with it. If anything has happened with a third party I think it’s been there and not by the river

pigsinoodies · 06/02/2023 18:15

melonraspberry · 06/02/2023 18:01

@Rebel2023 yeah I think you’re right on second thoughts. Also it’s not a violent sexual assault it’s violence or sexual assaults. Could just be a pissed teenage throwing a punch at another one I guess

It's 'violence or sexual offences' rather than sexual assaults. It presumably includes flashers and online offences, as well as a scuffle in the street or hair-pulling.

Bluebellwood129 · 06/02/2023 18:17

Plitvice · 06/02/2023 18:11

Her partner found the specialist diving company through doing his own research which tells us everything we need to know about Lancashire Police.

The owner sounds like a salesman (has a book out soon) but he was keen to stress that he isn't charging anyone for his services which is a nice gesture.

He went from saying that it would typically take an hour to saying that it would take around three days.

This guy has been getting a lot of bad press today. I hadn't heard of him prior to this but as you say, he essentially just volunteered the expertise of his company to help, whatever motive he may have had for doing so. If that helps to get some answers for Nicola's family and friends then that's great. Ultimately, it's the police that will be held accountable for their performance throughout this investigation.

confounded234 · 06/02/2023 18:18

What I'm unclear on is that are they saying that Nicola was not seen on ANY CCTV at ANY stage in her walk and that witness is the only thing to place her?

Diverging · 06/02/2023 18:19

I am confused as to why the dog was not wearing it. I do hope they also search the river and banks by the field she was last seen in.

Yes maybe she never made it back near to the bench at all.

I think someone needs to review how the police have conducted this investigation. What were they doing in the first 24 hours? Now the times have changed. It feels like they were resigned to not finding her from early on.

Why was her phone still dialled into the conference call?

We’ll know soon enough if this expert finds her or not. I’m terrified to keep checking the news. It feels like this can happen to anyone and at the same time the seeming ‘disappearance into thin air’ aspect is so disturbing.

Bluebellwood129 · 06/02/2023 18:21

@confounded234 Was it definitely Nicola they saw I wonder. The outfit she was wearing in the CCTV footage yesterday and Willow are hardly distinctive, especially if she was on the other side of the field some distance away. Is it possible the witness was mistaken?

Plitvice · 06/02/2023 18:22

They have just released some new footage so she was captured at least once.

ofwarren · 06/02/2023 18:23

Plitvice · 06/02/2023 18:22

They have just released some new footage so she was captured at least once.

Think that's near their house though. Getting into the car.

Allgoodthings1 · 06/02/2023 18:24

@Bluebellwood129 it was someone who knows her/regularly sees her so seems to have definitely been her

confounded234 · 06/02/2023 18:24

Plitvice · 06/02/2023 18:22

They have just released some new footage so she was captured at least once.

that just looks like more stills from their house footage. The police haven't even said where the footage was taken , and it doens't move anyone on from the footage released by the friend.

Bluebellwood129 · 06/02/2023 18:26

@Allgoodthings1 Thanks for clarifying that - clears up one thing at least!

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