What women want is an end to hectoring by feminists

[emkana]

do you agree?

Sorry about those rogue apostrophes.

God I could really do without being hectored by Minette Marrin on what women really want.

Thanks very much for your opinion, Minette. But I don't want your life. Thrusting opinions down unwilling throats is not for me. Not even part-time.

Another wealthy woman preaching to me about what 'feminism' should mean to me.

No words, really. Just two fingers.

How's that for angry (because I'm really on a roll tonight)?

Oh, and after reading the Sunday Times yesterday I'm even more sickened. What a wet load of Tory propoganda it was!

Pass me the bucket and the phone, Papa, yeah, go ahead, I think we're coming back.

Is Minette channelling Cristina Odone? Because they seem to be spouting a remarkably similar line

And getting paid for it.

Nice work where you can get it.

Tag-team journalism

I was quite furious reading this and I'm glad there's a thread on it.

It's beyond the pale for a columnist who lives off someone else's money to tell us all we should do likewise. Fine for women who have husbands who have the financial wherewithal to support us to be part-time gobshites. But not fine for women who have to work to pay bills. Not fine for women who enjoy their work and want to do their jobs. Apparently not fine for women who want to stay at home either.

The solution - per Minette - is for us all to be like Minette. Like it or not.

'I suspect it would actually be cheaper and better for government to enable women to look after their own children and families, if they want to, rather than nudging and driving them back into work. But it?s difficult for alpha females to understand such an unliberated desire. Women beware wimmin.'

It would be cheaper for you to stop taxing what my husband and I earn at every turn and for housing and fuel costs to come down.

But you missed the point, Minette, just like everyone else and you don't have to live my life so you don't see it and you don't care!

And I'm really glad you don't have to live it. Because you wouldn't last a month.

"Ironically, many women don't like feminism because men tend not to like feminism. It's baffling."

True that

I hereby nominate Tethersend for quote of the week on Mumsnet

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..should even bother to read it? Feminism is about respect,equality and choice not restriction,control or anyones values male or female...imo

I wouldn't bother mumcentreplus. It makes really patronising assumptions about working class women and, as I can't see any government paying women what they were earning in their jobs to stay at home with their children, is utterly bloody pointless.

Quattrocento - I think Moaning Minnie Marrin is in the enviable position of earning a very good whack turning out articles like this from her lappie at home.

Which will, of course, mean that in a few months time she'll be able to moan about women who sponge off men, no doubt.

Consistency and cogitation can only ever be the enemy of this sort of twaddle.

Too right, Quattro.

I bothered to read it, Mumcentre. I bothered to pay £2 for the paper that printed it, even.

Thanks for the heads up LadyB...I really should go to bed..lol

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I'm too busy sorting out the absolute tatters that pass as an excuse for our lives here to go to bed.

No thanks in part to the idea that us wimmins better get back in that kitchen whilst Mr Man goes out to bring home da bacon.

Don't hire us wimmins, now, all we really want is to be at home in da kitchen.

I wonder if they asked the same question of men? I suspect that most people who don't have well paid career type jobs would really rather do something else, regardless of whether they happened to have a penis or a vagina. It's all such a load of cobblers really.

Minette sounds like an old prune, and I don't identify with the "alpha female" tosh either - are all the successful men alpha too - or is this just another way to denigrate women who happen to have been successful, because you can't possibly be female, successful and nice can you (not that I like Harman either, but that's to do with the way she sounds/what she says, not her gender).

I don't recall ever being hectored by a feminist. Or anyone for that matter. Except possibly my mother.

Oh, The Times was full of this drivel yesterday!

Kate Kerrigan wrote another charming piece, with a sideline next to a photo of a little girl featuring valuable skills to teach our daughters - knitting, sewing, family budgeting and menu planning.

She pontificated on how these valuable and creative skills are being re-discovered. By women, of course.

We have a choice, apparently. We can work or be homemakers.

Wow! I guess if she has sons she's grooming them that real men don't do 'nourishing' children and housework.

At the rate they're going, there'll be articles next week on the virtues of the burka to protect female modesty.

If that was Minette Marrin's article then she can congratulate herself on sealing my decision never to by the ST and read her surface-level button-pushing tripe again. No matter - it will be behind a pay wall soon and then no one will see it.

Ugh. I thought it was just the DM and DT who seemed to employ a raft of women of a certain age (says she, heading rapidly there myself!) telling us what we want. Now it's the Sunday Times as well.

Ever noticed that, in the opinions of these newspapers, what we really want/need is to be able to spend all our time with our children, unless of course we send them away to boarding school, in which case (DM) we are of a 'classic middle class English background'. hmmm.

Actually (still not read the article), I do think that the government should pay parents/grandparents (of either sex) to look after children full-time, if that's what the adult concerned wants to do. But then I agree with the Green Party's notion of a living wage for everyone.

Why is putting down feminism such a popular topic at the moment?

This is the third thread in as many days about feminism.

The article is so tediously full of clichés that it is laughable. Middle-class working mums, mums who ALL would prefer to stay home with the DC...