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177 replies

mamath · 05/03/2010 00:16

what are mums' views on foster carers?

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chegirlshadabloodynuff · 05/03/2010 23:25

Oh come on! Birth parent with care? What does that mean?

You are a parent.

A birth parent clearly refers to a parent who does not have care of their child. It is a term used to distinguish between a biological parent, foster carers and adoptive parents. It recognises that the birth parent is an important part of a child's life and should be recognised as such.

Calling yourself a birth parent with care is pretentious.

mamath · 05/03/2010 23:27

re 'By supply and demand, do you mean that if there are X number of foster carers "demanding" children, then social services will supply X number of children?'

Not as such. There is a lack of FC we are told. The demand is in the adoption and other industries.

I would not disagree with StewieGriffinsMom re specialist skills.

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Haskell · 05/03/2010 23:28

Do you mean your child is on a care order but placed with you?

and mirandaSawyer- the real MS? or a mn name only? [boggles]

Missus84 · 05/03/2010 23:29

So you're talking about adoption rather than foster care?

Do Social Services and the courts remove children from good homes to give to adopters?

chegirlshadabloodynuff · 05/03/2010 23:30

Didnt think of that Haskell

If that is the case Mamath, I apologise for my comments re your use of birth parent with care.

MirandaSawyer · 05/03/2010 23:31

Oh dear - I namechanged and I thought it was the name of the woman in Sex and the City but Haskell you've made me realise it isn't. Needless to say, am not the MS

I am a silly old bat. Will change

Haskell · 05/03/2010 23:32

Ah! I wondered if you were researching the news story!

mamath · 05/03/2010 23:33

I'm not sure about your point about birth parent with care. In a discussion about these differnt types of carers and context of 'parent' = 'inadequate parent' in many of the above comments?

I said already I am a mum.

I was asked where I was coming from.

You might assume that I am not resident parent.

I thnking this is getting personal to get off the point again.

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mamath · 05/03/2010 23:36

No my child is not on a care order.

Although as a mum who has escaped DV for the sake of my child, I expect I am on the radar.

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dolphin13 · 05/03/2010 23:36

Right it's getting to late for me. Need to be up bright and early to look after my 6 children (a mixed bag of fostered, adopted and birth) and take them ALL to there various saturday clubs and activities. I look forward to catching up tomorrow and hope mamath that you have the answers to whatever your qestion is.

Haskell · 05/03/2010 23:36

Please clarify mamath.
You are a parent (well- most of us on here are)
You do not live with your children?
Are they on care orders?
Do they live with their other parent? are they in FC?

I am sorry, but I do not really comprehend what it is you wish to discuss. I am not being obtuse, I am finding your points disjointed.

FWIW- I am not a SW, I am coming to this from the child's PoV

mamath · 05/03/2010 23:38

Missus84
'So you're talking about adoption rather than foster care?

'Do Social Services and the courts remove children from good homes to give to adopters?'

The evidence is mounting.

FCs good, not so good and other, may be unwitting in such a process.

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Missus84 · 05/03/2010 23:39

Mamath - you started a thread about foster carers, but now we're talking about children being wrongly removed for adoption on a "supply and demand" basis?

This seems to me to be a whole different discussion.

Finona · 05/03/2010 23:42

Like many others - can't understand where you're coming from mamath. As to being on the radar for escaping DV for the sake of your child - you show a disarming lack of understanding of how SW would view that - you have acted in the best interest of your child if this is true so how could that be putting you on a radar
Now leaving this thread.

Missus84 · 05/03/2010 23:42

What evidence mamath? And what part are foster carers playing?

Why would social services and the courts conspire to remove children who are not abused, neglected or in any danger and put them up for adoption? I don't understand what the incentive is?

I completely understand that mistakes may happen, but are you saying there's a deliberate policy?

mamath · 05/03/2010 23:42

It is a bit disjointed because I am on a forum not familiar with the discussion of other forums, and I am scrolling the replies and the comments are not coming out in complete sequence.

For the 2nd or 3rd time I live with my child, my child is at home with me.

This is a family social and political question I guess, economic too

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Missus84 · 05/03/2010 23:44

"As to being on the radar for escaping DV for the sake of your child - you show a disarming lack of understanding of how SW would view that - you have acted in the best interest of your child if this is true so how could that be putting you on a radar"

I disagree - if the OP and her child came into contact at all with social services over the DV situation then it is more than likely that social services are still aware of them.

mamath · 05/03/2010 23:45

Incentive
well there is money changing hands

and there are children changing hands

But don't shoot the messenger

because there are people who gather and hold more evidence

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Haskell · 05/03/2010 23:46

Indeed- past DV in the child's home is a warning sign, because experience of DV has been proven to harm children psychologically.

Missus84 · 05/03/2010 23:48

Money changing hands between who?

LadyBiscuit · 05/03/2010 23:48

I'm sorry but you're just using phrases rather than sentences and I have no real idea what your point is.

As a mum, I think foster carers on the whole provide a brilliant halfway house between formal adoption and birth parents and also act as a form of respite for parents who are temporarily unable to be with their children for whatever reason.

See, whole sentences where my meaning is clear. It really isn't very hard

TheFallenMadonna · 05/03/2010 23:49

OK.

I get the point (without passing comment on its validity) that children are being removed from parents wrongly.

But are you suggesting that this is for the benefit of foster carers?

Who are you blaming for the removal of the children? And what motivation do you think they have for doing so?

Your posts are too cryptic to follow your argument.

StewieGriffinsMom · 05/03/2010 23:52

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Haskell · 05/03/2010 23:53

You know... checking out mamath's only other post... I think mamath is an AI, a computer program. Seriously... the strange quoting of phrases, etc. All too odd and disjointed.

You need to hire some decent AI coders!

mamath · 05/03/2010 23:58

there are a fair amount of mothers putting their filmclips on to you tube
(examples of info, not the evidence)
who having some quite oppressive experiences in the wake of trying to start a DV free life with their little ones
for example

www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i17dWD9npg&feature=PlayList&p=AB62A17CD80D48EF&index=15

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