Faith schools should say homosexuality is normal..

[daftpunk]

Why can't people just leave us alone

The above post was aimed at riven using a direct quote

btw the spread of AIDS is not entirely down to homosexuals nor is it simply because they are homosexual. It's an interesting thing for a catholic to bring up though given that your pope is doing his best to prevent the use of condoms which would help contain the disease.

tapas, the development of religion is down to people taking the bits they agree with and disposing of the bits they dont (development of the CofE) people create religions, Deities dont. it is perfectly possible to find aspects of your religion unacceptable. thats why so many different churches etc "break away"

I think DP was making an offensive, sweeping statement about homosexuals with a small basis in fact to counter the earlier offensive sweeping statement about Catholics and child abuse.

Whilst the former statement inspires competitive offended-ness amongst many MNers, the latter tends to be allowed to pass unchallenged.

"it is not acceptable to post attacks on groups of society to which you dont belong."

For many MNers that would statement would appear to have the caveat.... "unless that particular group happens to be a Christian or, even worse, Catholic one."

After that AIDs comment DP I now agree with those who say Troll.

You are here to offend not to discuss.

Were you not getting enough attention with your posts? Is that the problem?

I find your comments offensive and disgusting.

As others have posted, you are no Christian. You have no concept of the meaning of Christianity.

I am NOT a christian but I think you are bang out of order{youknownothingofthecrunch}

The bible condemns homosexuality. Fullstop.

If daftpunk is a christian then it follows that she also does not agree with it.

It might be unpalatable to you but she is only adhering to her 'faith'

Much the same as the rest of the 'believing' hypocrites on this thread.

queenoftheslatterns;

Unfortunately, when subjects like this are discussed, (and I think they should be discussed)...things will get said that can come across as offensive, and it can all get a bit heated...but you know, I take all the attacks on me and my religion pretty much on the chin....

maybe my problem is I never walk away...

tapas dp doesn't adhere to all the bible teachings though just the ones that suit her

How do you know that noddyholder?

but you seem to be deliberately offensive. maybe if you cant just walk away everyone else should. you obviously refuse to open your mind at all. therefore by continuing to post maybe we are just adding fuel to the fire. after all, bigotry thrives on controversy.

tapas, that does not mean she needs to make nasty comments. DP is no victim here.

I love the idea that adhering to one's faith takes away any personal responsibility. You choose to be intolerant, that is your decision. No one else forces that belief upon you.

As other (Catholics) have pointed out there are many interpretations of biblical passages.

Some people just don't get quite so hysterical about who others fall in love with.

My aids comment was in response to the attack on the catholic church.

catholic catechism 2291?

DP I couldn't care less. If others choose to attack the Catholic Church then do the right thing and turn the other cheek. You do NOT make an even more vile statement to counteract it. There is no justification for it.

By interpretations you mean {drop the bits that don't suit} don't you?

Daftpunk has interpretated that catholocism FORBIDS homosexuality. It follows that as a catholic she does too.

FACT: The catholic church/pope DOES forbid homosexuality.

So all the so called catholics on this thread should accept this fact and please refrain from painting a romanticised version : love, peace etc.

CAtholics don't love gay people.

tapas, have you ever looked at just how much of the bible is "dropped because it doesn't suit" by every Christian Church? That comment is laughable.

Yes, I have.

That is why I am NOT a christian.

Tapas, the Bible doesn't condemn homosexuality 'full stop' at all. Read through the thread and you'll see why many denominations now take a more relaxed view of how those passages are interpreted. The Bible condemns a massive number of things - but we live in 2010 not 500 BC or even when Jesus was born or 50 years after he was born. I respect that people have different views on whether to interpret every word of the Bible literally, but I look first to what Jesus said - and he never said a single word condemning loving, permanent caring relationships between two committed people as far as I can see. If it were something worth all this hoo-hah, I'm pretty sure he would have thought to say something directly on the topic.

54% of women on the autism spectrum identify as bisexual or lesbian in the latest study. Yes, 54%. And there are strong links to testosterone levels affecting sexuality - testosterone levels and brain design differences which are it seems something we're born with, by design. So who designed us, then?

I'm blessed indeed to work for a church that is accepting of me and my sexual identity.

Well, if dp only adheres to the bible teachings that suit her, she's hardly alone in that, is she?

For example, most Christians would accept that adultery is morally wrong. That doesn't mean that they go along with the bit about stoning adulterers to death.

scarletlilybug if you meant this bit "the Catholic church passively endorsed institutionalized paedophilia and child abuse for decades yet refused to allow children to have a chance of a normal life in a happy family home with gay parents"

That is specifically true not a generalisation. The Catholic church as an institution (not all Catholics) passively endorsed institutionalized paedophilia and child abuse for decades and then promoted the person responsible for keeping it quiet to Pope. The Catholic church as an institution refused to allow children to have a chance of a normal life in a happy family home with gay parents.

It's a matter of public record.

My point is that although I don't have much time for Daftpunk at least she isn't wishywashy with her beliefs.

It's laughable the way others on this thread 'claim' to be chiristian but drop the unfashionable concepts.

Tapas, it's too easy to define discernment and wisdom and understanding as "dropping unfashionable concepts". As a society we no longer treat black people as slaves, but you don't define that as "dropping an unfashionable concept". Neither should we strive to treat any of our fellows as people worthy of condemnation, lest we too be condemned.

Same religious hypocrisy applies to muslims on this thread.

Amberlight,

The bible was NOT written by Jesus.

You carry on listening to what 'jesus' said though...