Faith schools should say homosexuality is normal..

[daftpunk]

Why can't people just leave us alone

DecorHate, yes, very well put.

I was racking my brains there trying to come up with something so thanks for doing that!

My previous priest used to call the hardliners 'religious fanatics'.

Grimma - yes I think that at least ought to be required of all schools. And outlawing homophobic bullying is in no way contrary to even the strictest church teachings. We are meant to "hate the sin but love the sinner" (if homosexuality is a sin, which I disagree with anyway...)

We can show love for everyone by taking action against bullying, even if we disapprove of some aspect of their lifestyle.

Is it abnormal then, DaftPunk?

Normal...and harmless!
And they have act on homophobic bullying.

Wow, controversial.

I don't think I've ever felt prouder to be a Lib Dem than when I read about this.
Seems pretty self-evident to me that state-funded schools shouldn't be teaching bigotry. But unfortunately most politicians are too scare of the 'family values' pressure groups, the churches, and the Mail headlines to point this out.

I don't believe it's 'disrespectful' at all DP - my respect for anyone's beliefs ends right at the point where they cause harm to others. And telling gay teenagers that they're f*cked up, and allowing them to be bullied into suicide, is pretty harmful in my book.

Yes... I was thinking somethign like that when I read '...the notion people should be forced to teach as fact what are arguably matters of belief is disturbing.'

All our kids get presented with God as fact in those dratted assemblies.

(sorry, replying to TeddyBare, should have realised this thread would move!)

While obviously the State should be able to say what is acceptable in State schools, I think that's a bit of a red herring - this should apply to ALL schools, state and private. Its a matter of humanity not funding.

I'm Anglo-Catholic (so C of E but 'high' church) and I'm pretty sure that our priest is gay. I'm bisexual. I would be horrified if DD were to be taught anything other than homosexuality is normal and not unnatural.

Surely the history of the Church demonstrates that prejudice and discrimination isn't exactly a great way to build community and religious cohesion? Maybe some respect, acceptance and tolerance might be a better way forward?

Personally I find RC schools to be very hypocritical anyway.

They won't support Comic Relief because it supports people in Africa who want to use condoms to avoid dying.

On the other hand the staff and parents are obviously using contraception to avoid having to sell Mummy's 4x4 in order to have something big enough for all the children and that's all OK.

I've also heard about parents who got very annoyed with teachers who went on maternity leave because it would affect their child's education.

African's can't use condoms to avoid death.

Teachers should use condoms to avoid little Johnny changing teacher halfway through a year.

So to hear them complain that they can't be "hypocritical" over homosexuality annoys me...

I actually have no idea what the local faith schools teach on this matter - I suspect they are not dogmatic.

I remember seeing a poster in the secondary school RE room on the issue of evolution/creationism - it said something like " Some Christians believe that God created the world and everything in it, most Christians believe in evolution but that God had a hand in it somehow" I thought that was well-put

Faith schools cannot teach belief as fact.

Teaching that same-sex relationships are "abnormal" is the same as teaching creationism.

It's wrong.

Daftpunk I was raised catholic. When I was younger I knew nothing of the churches views on such things and really enjoyed my faith.

I went to church every week, prayed every night andwas proud to be Catholic.

As I grew into my teens I realised that I was attracted to women.

I still loved my Catholic school, I still believed In what they taught me, but suddenly I was 'bad?' 'wrong?' 'sinful?'

What do you say to that? Being agy or bi-sexual isn't a choice, its just how you feel, a natural preference, just as you grew up and started to feel attracted to the opposite sex, I grew up feeling that way about both.

Now I am 25 and I am NOT a catholic.

Not because I am attracted to women, but because I fell (and I am entitled to my opinoon just as you are) that the Catholic church is old fashioned predjudiced and hateful.

I feel the history behind them is unforgivable, I don't believe they uphold the things they are supposed to stand for and I don't want to be a part of it.

I have not turned my back on God I would say, but I have turned my back on the out of date church as a whole.

Oh, super. DP's doing her "Look how much of a close-minded bigot I am" trolling again.

Snorbs....go away.

LGP; re; 50/50...I don't live completely by the bible , but I try my best.

Agree, snorbs

Riven welcome back We need you here !Snorbs well said x

Too right Snorbs.

Why people rise to it I do not know.

Yawn.

dp your trolling is getting really boring now.

why don't you try getting some positive attention in rl.
by perhaps doing something nice rather spoutiung hate on here all the time.

or in other words.
do one

I'm a Christian (C of E) and I'm also bisexual. I'm also married and have a daughter within that marriage. Where do I fit in terms of abnormal/normal in terms of religion?
My faith is my own personal thing and I honestly do not believe that the God I have put my faith in is really bothered about my sexuality. The important thing is that I am a good person.

My DD will be taught by me and DH that it is normal to be gay or straight or whatever. I hope this is backed up by whatever schools she attends.

Riven...I'm pretty sure the only reason Labour banned Islam4UK is because they knew if they didn't the BNP would get even more votes......people on here might not take the BNP seriously....but MPs do.

I don't care what homosexuals do...I just want to be left alone and not forced to accept it as "normal"....I don't consider it it is "normal".....why can't my views be respected.

Perhaps because she is an attention seeking nobber?