Proposed march through Wooton Bassett

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Initially saw this on the BBC but this link gives a bit more detail. I support everyone's right to free speech but ... dear goodness, this seems to be exceptionally bad taste. My DH is an army doctor and, during his time in a free Afgan clinic for civilians run by the army, saved many Afgan lives. He's going out there again in January. I can imagine I'd be incredibly distressed if he'd lost his life in the conflict and somebody wrote to me explaining what he'd 'really' died for. Ugh. Maybe it's just my personal bias, but I can't help feel that the proposed march is sited to cause maximum potential for violent conflict and to cause maximum hurt to those who are bereaved.

"An informed vote is a good vote whether it be for a party that I support or not. "

Then please understand why DP chooses to vote the way she does and accept it.

"I like Gordon Brown LOL."

Peachy, you must be the only person who does, even his own party can't stand him.

"I dont get it, im not british and im asian. Why this organisation plan to do this march. If Wootton Bassett has become for returning serviceman & soldiers who lost their lives serving their country, why would this Mulsim4uk in need of crashing this tradition. Whole world is aware of the loss of innoccent people`s life.
Im against war. But this is so wrong."

Couldn't agree more Diva.

I also found the picture of the Muslim couple who regually attend the repatriation ceremonies in WB in the mail particually touching.

Before playing the victim card Atlantis you were very rude and talked about a stupid buzzer, I was only replying in kind.

"Before playing the victim card Atlantis you were very rude and talked about a stupid buzzer, I was only replying in kind. "

Good for you, and it's not a 'victim card' it's a condition which I hope your children never have to suffer and if they do I hope your a little more sympathetic.

I mentioned earlier the Muslim couple who go to the repatriation ceremonies and the daily mail ( yes guardian readers, that horrible Muslim hating newspaper ) have interviewed them, what a lovely family;

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1241805/How-Muslim-mourners-displaying-real-patriotism-Wootton-Bass ett.html#

and so typical of the attitudes of the real Muslims who live here.

'"I like Gordon Brown LOL."

Peachy, you must be the only person who does, even his own party can't stand him. '

Possibly true but there you go. Shows I have some independence of mind above what us Libs are generallya cused of on here LOL

Dysl;exia is a POTA isn't it Atlantis? Two ofmine have it,ds1's is addresed alongwith his ASD so that's 'solved' IYKWIM but ds2 has noother dx(not the same as no other conditions obv) and the Head made the TA'sreedundant just as he was making progress dammit.

Back to the subjecxt though.. I do actyually understand why DP votes the eway she does, I think I comefrom a similar background to many BNP voters (estate, rural town,high unemployment and big class divide etc....) I just think the BNP get it very wrong indeed. Oh and that Nick Griffin is a prize arse.

Peachy;

I don't come from that background...I have never lived on a council estate...my family are all property owners...and have never been unemployed.

A Home Office audit recently found that asylum seekers were overpaid £10 000 000 in benefits last year.

I'm a bit uneasy about the whole Wootton Bassett thing. Modern Britain is in love with the melodramatic 'everyone watch me!' gesture, whether or not the tragedy in question has anything to do with them.
A bit like the piles of garage forecourt flowers and cheap teddies you find near crash sites.

They didn't do it like that in days of youre.Henry Allingham only started talking publicly about his role in WW1 in his 90s.

Just a thought... not a million miles from my home is a town where 50% of the population have never done a days paid work in their lives. There are generations of families who live entirely on benefits. They are virtually without exception white and British. As a taxpayer I'd rather see them sent to some desert island somewhere than the many thousands of immigrants of a myriad races who actually CONTRIBUTE to the British economy. The BNP probably don't have a problem with these people because of course they are WHITE. What a ridiculous state of affairs that we want to blame everything that is bad with this country on immigrants without first of all sorting out those who have lived here all their lives and contribute NOTHING to our country.

Riven is right when she points out that moderate muslims ARE speaking out against these extremists - it's just that it's not getting picked up by certain sections of the media because 'benefits scrounging hate preacher' about a tiny group of loons is a bigger, more dramatic and sensationalist story than the thousands of muslims who hate him as much as we do.

BUT I am having 'good god - only in England' musings when I look at the craziness of a man that hates us, wishes we were all dead but who's happy to take a nice house and £25k of tax payer's money - and we willingly hand it over.

DP I am not unemployed, neitehr is my DH or any of our famillies; and just so as you kmnow my parents had a stunning work ethic thanks, still working after retirement and with a disability- they were losers to a pensions collapse (nothing to dowuth labour,far more complex sadly, linked to company being sold to American ownership) In the seventies council houses were offered to prety much anybody and they lost pension fund saved to fund the bungalow, dad worked 16 hour days allm y childhood for 20 days plus at a time (yes I ama bit touchy when people assume Dad is unemployed)

Not all BNP supporters come from that, but IME that is the public perception, and those I know tend to.

Made that point days ago Nancy....they hate us and all we stand for but are happy to milk our benefit system....always the same.

Nancy described a He, not a they.

Of course there are twats, there are teats in every single community. that's a given. The problem is when people take occasional twat and make it into 'therefore all peoplewho share X characteristic with him are twats'

Do you think he's the only muslim extremist living here on benefits...?

come on peachy...you're not that naive

No

And I also think thya re rare.

I have no issues whatsoever with peoplewho say 'I think all Muslime xtremists advocating should be deported'.None at all, though if they are likelyn toface the death penalty or similar I would rpefer interment.

However,they are so rare that the specifics have to be detailed. And tbh i'm up for anyone of any faith facing the same treatment- am note ven sure that them being Muslim is relevant in fact. Violent peoplewith plans to harm should be deported or interned depending on their situation is best.

Although I will say (with no data to hand to back me up but just gut feeling) that the indigenous people of this island (if we think white peopel who have been here a good few generations) are in the main much lazier than immigrants.

My dh has worked in developing countries for years (as did my parents) and it would make you weep to see how gratefully people leap on the tiniest chance of self improvment.

"I'm a bit uneasy about the whole Wootton Bassett thing. Modern Britain is in love with the melodramatic 'everyone watch me!' gesture, whether or not the tragedy in question has anything to do with them."

It's called gratitude and respect, that's why people are at Wootton Bassett. It's a place where the military is present and relevant, for those people the 'war on terror' is very real, not headlines and sound bites, not a show of how clever they can be with political spin and wind up a few forum users. It's coffins carrying young men and women accompanied by grieving parents and young families. Families who feel that little bit more supported by streets lined with people showing their child/husband/wife/father/mother/sibling respect and gratitude.

'for those people the 'war on terror' is very real, not headlines and sound bites'

Of course.
Wootton Bassett being packed to the gills with nutters with y fronts full of explosives.

An interesting parallel exists in cyberspace whereby individuals get off on seeing their twelth hand platitudes down in writing and manage to persuade themselves that they have a lucid and noble take on the current situation.

'An interesting parallel exists in cyberspace whereby individuals get off on seeing their twelth hand platitudes down in writing and manage to persuade themselves that they have a lucid and noble take on the current situation. '

At which point I think we alllook askance at whoever disagrees with us and say 'yes,like them'

When in fact its p[robably a little trueo f all of us.

Especially those who think themselves the least likely candidate.

I think you probably fit your own mould all too perfectly moondog.

Read this thread last week, not had chance to catch up, but I really hope for the people of Wooton Bassett and all those who have lost someone in any war this doesn't happen. And the media stops giving the group publicity.

It will be banned for breaching Terrorism Act says here

Yes thats a story picked up from the express
www.express.co.uk/posts/view/150909/Anti-war-march-group-to-be-banned-

It's about time Johnson got off his butt and did something, but i'm sure the group will just change their name and start over somewhere else.

Some prosecutions would be nice though.

This is good news...

Now they need deporting..