"on mumsnet this week" in the Mail. Is this a new thing

[jujumaman]

Came across this this morning when I should have been working

Is this a new weekly rip-off by the Mail? Or has it been going on for months and I'm behind the times as usual

I'm not quite as virulently anti the Mail as mnetters, find it silly rather than the end of civilisation as we know it. But still ...

namechanging for sensitive topics will not protect you from someone in RL recognising your situation though.

And sometimes when you really need guidance or advice,(or even a good kick up the arse) on a sensitive issue, it is the details which are important, which make the dilemma. And which, ultimately, can make you identifiable.
Now someone googling shitey-smelling washing machine might come across me in MN guise and might be my best mate. But wouldn't neccessarily recognise me.

But the same best mate picking up the copy of the daily mail and eyes falling on ''AIBU to be worried about my shitey-smelling best friend who smells of shite and whose children smell'' might just realise from questions asked by MNetters on that thread and answered by me, in the interests of having my problem solved, that I am talking about her.

'The thing is, Justine, that some people do share their nicknames with their friends, and husbands. And maybe their friends might work with them. I have some friends who I know are Mumsnetters and although we have never discussed nicknames, if they asked me what mine was, I would gladly tell them.

Then if I opened the Daily Mail and found that according to that "esteemed publication" I was pregnant and was threatened with the sack, I might just feel like suing for libel myself.

It's certainly somebody's fault. If Mumsnetters' posts are not owned by the posters themselves, by whom are they owned? And if they are distributed publically, and attributed to the wrong person, causing that person embarrassment and distress, whose fault is it? I am clearly no legal eagle but would guess the buck might turn out to stop at MNHQ.'

This is exactly my point nothing to do with being stalked on line or anything like that, but it has been ignored or passed off as 'fair useage' which has no relevance.

So who is responsible?

The whole area of copyright law is now becoming so complex now because of this very issue....who actually holds the copyright....with the explosion of the internet it is sometimes very difficult to say.

I think each person has to use a certain amount of common sense. If you have a high profile career/profession then perhaps it is easier to identify that poster. And in certain professions/jobs expressing forthright outspoken opinions is not always wise....

So we should go somewhere else and just get used to 'aw hugs hun'?

Dx with ASD?
Aw hugs hun

DP beats me?
Aw hugs hun

Leg falling off?
Aw hugs hun

Help me make sense of this claim form?
Aw hugs hun

May as well quit...

And if you attempt to proetect yourself by, perhaps changing your DD to a DS, changing ages, etc, someone shouts ''TROLL! She said in her last post she had a DD!!'' and you have lost your thread to pitchfork-thrusting.

Precisely yafuckers. And we've got way too much of that already.

I have to say I snorted tea through my nose at work at lunchtime when I read the namechanging names on this thread lol

'And in certain professions/jobs expressing forthright outspoken opinions is not always wise....
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true but when PI posted certain things 8 years ago I didn't think I might be considering entering one of those.

a bit of savvy and joined up thinking.don't post sensitive content you don't want revealed and then on other topic eg for sale state you buggy can be collected from your address and give your real email for the transaction, and post about your DC.

overall,i do think people will process this and MN will still have lively riposte,maybe just a wee bit more cautious about sharing tons of info

You should always plan ahead....

feck off ,tomorrow is my limit

Yuo'rerigght Sm butr theres a lot of people here like me with nobody else to talk to, soetimes the need gets the better of you.

I have learned though. Save my support (which often means giving personal info) for otehr locked fora,and if I have a problem- whisky

I know what you're saying SM, but if everyone is forced to adopt a 'persona' on MN, in order to put people off the scent, and never disclose anything genuine about themselves or discuss anything sensitive, we are losing the essence of MN. We just become a load of people being jocular and talking about the weather.
We lose the empathy. Sometimes the 'disclosures' are what make a thread moving or interesting or hilarious or human.

Scottishmummy - hahahhah being sensible is no longer enough, not with bastards like me around who can automate the entire stalking research process and just wait for that time you slip up - late at night, having had a few, and refer to something personal.

I have to agree with that actually, fucker. When you can predict what a poster is going to say with deadening regularity, it gets pretty dull. We do need the humanity to keep the site alive.

being called fucker really sits ill with me

Is yafucker OK then?

How does this do you?

actually, yes, yafucker sounds marginally better...sort of affectionate ....

completely agree but empathy,humour and humanity add to a thread and it would be sterile to loss the connection that a lived experience brings.BUT only disclose what you can live with unknown (or potentially known) others knowing. the familiarity of the names on the screen belies the thousands of others reading

and yes some sickos do get a vicarious thrill out of reading certain topics

i would hate to see the shared experience and range of answers diminish

all i am saying is be internet safe

Nancy, re your post: "FAQ - so...you post on a thread that is lifted by the DM. A DM reader sees your comment and thinks: 'hmmm that FAQ person seems like an interesting character, what else do they have to say?'
So the DM reader logs on to mumsnet and does a search for you and then trawls through all your hundreds of posts and is able to build a picture of who you are.
Even then you would still be a faceless stranger on an internet site - it's only if they knew you in RL that they might, might put two and two together.
How likely do you think that is? "

My answer - not very, and not at all what I would be worrying about.

My Ex-H was a Daily Mail reader in every sense of the term.

If someone posted on relationships about a marriage break up which was similar to mine, I might well have posted with my experiences, hoping they might make her feel less alone. Then suppose my Ex - who would never look on Mumsnet under any normal circumstances, should see in the Daily Mail what I had written, and recognise the events. Might he not think, "ooh, spooky! I wonder if that Balloonslayer is my Ex. Why don't I go on to Mumsnet and have a look at what else she has written?" THAT is the sort of thing people are worried about.

Well actually I am not worried. Because I know my ex is as indifferent to me as I am to him. But not everyone is that lucky.

This all just points to a slow erasure of any 'personality' this site had ... posters will be less forthcoming and things like 'The MN Christmas Appeal' will be a thing of the past ...

Perhaps we can have a 'This week in the DM' thread ???

BoF - no hard feelings btw - am just hiding out at the mo while I change all my email addresses so I wasn't ignoring you (and did post on shiney's to say so - well to throw veggies at you) but don't worry, you aren't on my list of people to annoy.

Yafucker sounds like something you'd do with a sloane ranger

Sorry yafucker!

Agree, SM, but also interesting what WMMC says can happen when you are off-guard.

Oh, it worked this time.

Daily mail are Bs!!