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what do you think? was the resturant right?

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2shoes · 12/07/2008 12:26

or is it discrimination

I now await being asked to not take dd to places incase she puts people off their food.

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expatinscotland · 12/07/2008 20:45

Someone have some damn wine for me!

This baby is STILL making me vomit! He's decided he doesn't want me to have coffee anymore.

He certainly doesn't want me to eat very much, particularly not at one sitting.

And I'd like to pour Gaviscon Advance in a glass and swill it.

donnie · 12/07/2008 20:45

"it's a shame if you have a disability but we didn't do it to you"

"the rest of us have feelings and rights too"

nice line in segregation there GRS. A real 'us' and 'them' stance - you couldn't be more lucid if you tried.

This thread is really eye opening stuff. For all the wrong reasons, sadly.

jimjamshaslefttheyurt · 12/07/2008 20:46

A collective toast (except my glass is empty- horror- must refill!)

Hair of the dog MB?

Blandmum · 12/07/2008 20:47

Oh God, no! [shudder!]

I'm on the waggon for a wee while!

StressTeddy · 12/07/2008 20:48

Oh and one more thing - I am going to print this off and read it with my Brother and he will spit all over it. And no, it won't be the involuntary spit that he normally does

expatinscotland · 12/07/2008 20:49

Then someone gets to drink my bottle glass.

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welliemum · 12/07/2008 20:55

Eye-opening thread.

And why is it this woman's problem if she eats messily? It's not her problem, it's the problem of the people staring at her. Since when was it compulsory or polite to stare at other patrons in a restaurant?

lulumama · 12/07/2008 20:56

i thikn there might some small comfort in the fact that no-one has agreed with grs

WasStealthPolarBear · 12/07/2008 20:57

Lol ST I don't think he will be the only one

WasStealthPolarBear · 12/07/2008 20:58

"Gods, what gives someone the right to remove everyone they feel is 'offensive' from public view?"
Especially when that public is made up of many people, not all NT. In fact the 'offensive' people must make up a sizeable part of it - or do they not get a say?

Heated · 12/07/2008 21:23

A few months ago at a supermarket cafe was an elderly lady obviously ill. She had holes where her nose had been and her mouth also was in a bad way; I don't consider myself squeamish having looked after my terminally ill mother but had to cut her out of my line of vision but the gagging/choking noises when she was fed were horrible. She also scared my ds (4) as she kept trying to hug him & shouting. But that's my bag. I certainly wouldn't complain - what's there to complain about? And I admired her carers for taking her, knowing they would attract attention. But I admit if she were a regular there I couldn't go back.

wannaBe · 12/07/2008 21:23

you know, I am still baffled by the fact that this man's business apparently has suffered because of this woman. That lots of people complained and stopped coming to this restaurant.

Now I've been to some pretty shite restaurants in my time. Restaurants which I would probably never revisit. But if I chose not to go back, I really don't think that I would take the time to go and tell the management why I had chosen not to go back.

I can see how there are ignorant people out there who might be put off to the degree that they would choose not to go to that restaurant again (although tbh they would have to be regular customers as someone going there for the first time wouldn't know that this lady ate there every day and surely wouldn't be put off a restaurant by one customer?), but most people, even the most obviously ignorant ones, wouldn't make a concerted effort to complain to the management would they?

I'm wondering more and more whether this man had maybe one or two complaints, and because he himself was ignorant and bigoted and narrow-minded, he used the "I'm losing business" line to justify his discrimination.

Or maybe the lady's condition degenerated over the past two years and so while in the beginning he wasn't too bothered, by the end he was less able to deal with it and so decided to ban her.

TwoIfBySea · 12/07/2008 21:30

"'this man also has rights"

What to discriminate against whoever he wants to?"

Maybe he should be introduced to the bigoted magistrate.

Come on people remember where we live. This is a country where children are frowned upon if you dare to take them to some restaurants. There are enough narrow-minded, po-faced people making others feel guilty for simply existing and for some reason they are allowed to dictate for all society. Once we were in a restaurant, my mother, my late aunt and me - my aunt had a port-wine mark across one side of her face - and these two bitches women made a point of showing their disgust. I was in my 20s at the time and had never thought of it as anything other than just something she had, no big deal. My aunt was quite upset so I made a point of staring at them fixedly until they left as she wouldn't let me go over and tell them what I thought of them. And that was just a mark on her face, not a disability.

Yes, it would be off-putting to have someone "spitting" their food or dropping half chewed food around them. Guess what, they could turn their chairs around and eat their own bloody dinner and leave this woman alone.

I feel sorry for the restaurateur but he could have stuck up for his regular and told the non-paying customers that they could either pay or he'd call the police. Make it their prejudiced little problem.

donnie · 12/07/2008 21:37

I agree wannabe- it would be interesting to see some concrete evidence that his finances have suffered. As you say, who would bother to actually go to the restaurant and inform him that they would definitely return but only if this woman was not there - it doesn't add up. Plus he has made a fortune out of her over the last two years. Bizarre.

chisigirl · 12/07/2008 21:38

god, but this thread is depressing.

don't know why i'm posting really, haven't read the whole thread and i'm sure it's all been said by now. i suppose i just thought of my aunt who died of HD a couple of years ago and I couldn't really bear the thought that someone might have treated HER this way.

Kimi · 12/07/2008 21:45

By Greyriverside on Sat 12-Jul-08 19:02:34
If you are parent/carer to someone who can't/won't stop yelling do you take them to the cinema or do you consider that it might not be very fair on others?

DS1 has tourettes, mostly motion ticks but some vocal ones, we take him places, sometimes people stare we are used to it.
Some people are unkind, but as DS1 puts it he will always have to deal with a whole lot of ugly coming from a long line of stupid.

Saying that a friend of ours who had parkinsons choked to death in a restruantm whilst having dinner with his wife, very upsetting for all conserned.

jimjamshaslefttheyurt · 12/07/2008 21:47

'a whole lot of ugly coming from a long line of stupid'

Please tell your ds1 he is a genius. I will chant that next time we go out.

Kimi · 12/07/2008 21:49

He got it from hairspray jimjams, maybell says it to her son when he gets a white girlfriend.

jimjamshaslefttheyurt · 12/07/2008 21:52

It's a good line to chant - definitely.

edam · 12/07/2008 21:56

Quite right, Wannabe - I was amazed by the number of people who assumed that the restauranteur must be telling the truth when his story just doesn't add up.

MOST restaurants fail - it's a minority that survive more than six years. I suspect his place is in trouble and he's picking on this lady in order to assuage his rage. Pretty stupid - given economic conditions, he should be glad to have such a devoted customer. If I still lived in Battersea, I'd take great delight in going in and telling him I would never cross his doorstep ever again.

Kimi · 12/07/2008 21:56

By Greyriverside on Sat 12-Jul-08 19:02:34
If you are parent/carer to someone who can't/won't stop yelling do you take them to the cinema or do you consider that it might not be very fair on others?

It's a shame if you have a disability, but we didn't do it to you and I'm a bit tired of hearing "I'm in a minority do everything my way". the rest of us have feelings and rights too.

If the person was (through no fault of her own) acting in a manner that would put other people off their food then it was a selfish act to go there in the first place.

"I don't care if they lose money. I'm disabled!"

Sorry to re post this vile post but are you not the same person who is saying on another thread that a christian woman was a bigot for not wanting to conduct same sex partnerships?
Wow the hypocrisy, are gay people not a minority.
Hope you are never any place I take my son

SueW · 12/07/2008 21:58

jimjams there is someone who does mobile kids' shoes. I'm sure there was a leaflet in our last NCT newsletter.

jimjamshaslefttheyurt · 12/07/2008 22:00

I thought that kimi

Sensible person SueW. I'm sure there's money to be made going to residential homes etc.

DS1 did have a mobile shoe fitter for a while (a friend's sister who ran a shoe shop!)

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