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Andy Burnham says wealthy areas must house more migrants after leafy village revolts over 1,250 asylum seekers

246 replies

MrsLifeisnotabowlofcherries4 · Yesterday 09:42

Andy Burnham just doesn't get it does he, we don't want anymore migrants/illegals put anywhere not in rich or poor areas we want to stop them coming here full stop.

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drspouse · Yesterday 14:12

EasternStandard · Yesterday 14:00

Ok so you’re a yes to a 1000 plus men, not families, waiting for asylum? Ok nothing wrong with that but they may as well be placed where people feel as you do.

We currently have 245 who are supported (but we have a lot more who are settled, because we started taking them earlier).
Another council in our region has double the population and 4x the number being supported so based on the ratio of our populations (their district is twice the size of ours) I'd say we'd work well with 500 supported asylum seekers.
We are fairly rural and have a lot of small villages, though most of the housing is in a small town OR in the barracks which are in a small village (2000 in village and hamlets).
We do get refugees with settled status staying here though as they have children in school.
So while those living in barracks (singles or families) can't carry on living in villages, those in housing can and those with families probably will.
This is unlike either the squaddies or the single men who will get out as soon as they can.

Also, the number seeking asylum has dropped. Don't think anyone on here has admitted to that.

weetumshie · Yesterday 14:13

The original poster does not speak for me-
nor do any of the other racists or fascist adjacent posters on this topic. People are not illegal. They may arrive by illegal means- but only because there are no legal means to gain asylum in most places. I don’t understand why we do not have a home office outpost in Calais which would mean legal means exist. I so wish people would stop reading and listening to the anti immigration rubbish scum media and equally scum political parties feed them.

EasternStandard · Yesterday 14:15

weetumshie · Yesterday 14:13

The original poster does not speak for me-
nor do any of the other racists or fascist adjacent posters on this topic. People are not illegal. They may arrive by illegal means- but only because there are no legal means to gain asylum in most places. I don’t understand why we do not have a home office outpost in Calais which would mean legal means exist. I so wish people would stop reading and listening to the anti immigration rubbish scum media and equally scum political parties feed them.

It’s good if you’re keen to have barracks nearby, pls let your MP know

GodDamnitDonut · Yesterday 14:17

weetumshie · Yesterday 14:13

The original poster does not speak for me-
nor do any of the other racists or fascist adjacent posters on this topic. People are not illegal. They may arrive by illegal means- but only because there are no legal means to gain asylum in most places. I don’t understand why we do not have a home office outpost in Calais which would mean legal means exist. I so wish people would stop reading and listening to the anti immigration rubbish scum media and equally scum political parties feed them.

We need more people like you, how many refugees do you currently house ? The more of you offer help with accommodation, the more it will help with reducing the tensions.

RaininSummer · Yesterday 14:17

Could do with spreading them around as my small city has so many migrants now it has changed hugely. However not sure I would be too pleased with them being housed in expensive and gorgeous areas most of us can't afford to live in either. That really would change the character of the country.

Catterbat · Yesterday 14:18

Since nobody had a problem with Ukrainian refugees (presumably because they were mostly female, rather than just ‘not brown’) can’t we just get rid of all the men? Not just the brown ones, all of them. Ship them all off somewhere else, since they’re all potentially dangerous to women and children. Why stop with the foreign ones?

Azerothians · Yesterday 14:19

Mugsey62 · Yesterday 13:04

All of it until you provide some research.

'Assertions made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence' - Hitchen's Razor.

Go ahead and refute it then.

You're entitled not to want these men are treated and dispute that they even are so treated. I for one think they should be treated by the NHS no matter how expensive and extensive that treatment. You are entitled not to want this.

Mugsey62 · Yesterday 14:21

EasternStandard · Yesterday 14:00

Ok so you’re a yes to a 1000 plus men, not families, waiting for asylum? Ok nothing wrong with that but they may as well be placed where people feel as you do.

How would you ascertain that?

parall · Yesterday 14:22

summater · Yesterday 13:15

He is going to raise the caps on rent so they can be housed in HMOs in wealthier areas apparently

Oh this gets better and better. Free blood pressure meds for the leafy suburbia residents, when do we want it, NOW 😊

Backedoffhackedoff · Yesterday 14:23

EasternStandard · Yesterday 14:15

It’s good if you’re keen to have barracks nearby, pls let your MP know

I don’t know why you keep saying this. What good will it do me to email my MP and tell them I’d like a barracks built in my densely populated area which clearly has no space for one?

I mean, I’m willing to do it and let you know what he says but I suspect it’s not “thanks constituent! We’ll be breaking ground in your garden tomorrow”

Mugsey62 · Yesterday 14:24

Terrribletwos · Yesterday 13:53

I am interested to know how it will be ruined? And how you will be become a 51st state?

Regardless of anything else in these posts we are absolutely the 51st state. We get bullied by America, either in an overtly bullying way like Trump does it, or in a more charming way a la Obama. We have very little autonomy.

EasternStandard · Yesterday 14:24

Backedoffhackedoff · Yesterday 14:23

I don’t know why you keep saying this. What good will it do me to email my MP and tell them I’d like a barracks built in my densely populated area which clearly has no space for one?

I mean, I’m willing to do it and let you know what he says but I suspect it’s not “thanks constituent! We’ll be breaking ground in your garden tomorrow”

You could have the houses nearby instead. That’s fine.

Backedoffhackedoff · Yesterday 14:25

parall · Yesterday 14:22

Oh this gets better and better. Free blood pressure meds for the leafy suburbia residents, when do we want it, NOW 😊

I doubt this is right. Why would they raise rent caps for HMOs, HMOs don’t even have rent caps and AS aren’t entitled to housing (or any other) benefits anyway.

AS are housed in hotels, barracks, encampments etc

Backedoffhackedoff · Yesterday 14:25

EasternStandard · Yesterday 14:24

You could have the houses nearby instead. That’s fine.

I could have what?

Mugsey62 · Yesterday 14:26

Azerothians · Yesterday 14:19

Go ahead and refute it then.

You're entitled not to want these men are treated and dispute that they even are so treated. I for one think they should be treated by the NHS no matter how expensive and extensive that treatment. You are entitled not to want this.

I have no idea what you are talking about. What grounds do you have for believing that asylum seekers have a higher rate of stds than the general population?

EasternStandard · Yesterday 14:26

Backedoffhackedoff · Yesterday 14:25

I could have what?

Do you know what a house is? You say barracks are not possible for you. But if you say to your MP you’re keen to have men waiting for asylum accommodated nearby I’m sure they’ll be delighted.

Terrribletwos · Yesterday 14:27

Mugsey62 · Yesterday 14:24

Regardless of anything else in these posts we are absolutely the 51st state. We get bullied by America, either in an overtly bullying way like Trump does it, or in a more charming way a la Obama. We have very little autonomy.

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In what way are we bullied by America tho in regards to immigration?

Backedoffhackedoff · Yesterday 14:28

EasternStandard · Yesterday 14:26

Do you know what a house is? You say barracks are not possible for you. But if you say to your MP you’re keen to have men waiting for asylum accommodated nearby I’m sure they’ll be delighted.

AS are not housed in houses, but none the less, the houses near by are all owner occupied, so again, I suspect his answer won’t be “thanks constituent! On the basis of your email I’ve issued a compulsory purchase of your neighbours home”

its almost like they need an underpopulated area with lots of empty land nearby……

parall · Yesterday 14:29

Backedoffhackedoff · Yesterday 14:25

I doubt this is right. Why would they raise rent caps for HMOs, HMOs don’t even have rent caps and AS aren’t entitled to housing (or any other) benefits anyway.

AS are housed in hotels, barracks, encampments etc

Mine was a tongue in cheek comment. I have no idea what the heck is going to happen, it might all just be a klaxon and no resulting issue. Who knows? But what has happened is a realisation from those heretofore insulated from the arrival of the dinghy dahlings that it might affect them too.

Makes everyone think, respond, react either positively or negatively, but it gets the narrative going amongst those who really didn't have to or want to participate up to now, apart from telling the rest of us what we should do.

probablyamunreasonable · Yesterday 14:29

RaininSummer · Yesterday 14:17

Could do with spreading them around as my small city has so many migrants now it has changed hugely. However not sure I would be too pleased with them being housed in expensive and gorgeous areas most of us can't afford to live in either. That really would change the character of the country.

The people living in expensive areas perhaps need to realise what they are voting for.

A few months ago during the local elections I visited a very affluent village, which has stunning views of the countryside, an old village shop, honesty boxes for eggs, a charming tea room etc. Detached houses there cost over £1.5m, small terraces about £600k.

About 95% of them had a ‘vote Green’ sticker in their window.

Maybe they will welcome having some asylum seekers housed there.

EasternStandard · Yesterday 14:29

Backedoffhackedoff · Yesterday 14:28

AS are not housed in houses, but none the less, the houses near by are all owner occupied, so again, I suspect his answer won’t be “thanks constituent! On the basis of your email I’ve issued a compulsory purchase of your neighbours home”

its almost like they need an underpopulated area with lots of empty land nearby……

Ok let’s see, put it out there. You may get your wish.

Mugsey62 · Yesterday 14:29

tommyhoundmum · Yesterday 13:53

That sounds about right. I don't mind when I'm up North but won't allow it here just because I am little, old or anything else.

Well it would only be because you are female wouldn't it? It wouldn't be because you were little or old etc would it?

Backedoffhackedoff · Yesterday 14:31

EasternStandard · Yesterday 14:29

Ok let’s see, put it out there. You may get your wish.

Done! I’ll let you know what he says and you can stop posting email your MP after every post that isn’t rabidly anti immigrant

MarmaladeorJam · Yesterday 14:31

Mugsey62 · Yesterday 12:56

Are brown people statistically more liable to sexually abuse women? Do you have any research for this?

It is brown people we are talking about. No one is complaining about Australians are they?

This is silly.

First of all, quantity is in play.

Second, people who come from a particular area tend to be a comparable colour.

I would think that the colour of these men is the last thing people have an issue with.

They usually come from very conservative countries whose cultures expect very different things from their women, and allow very different behaviors in their men.

Most of these men will be fine at home in that they conform to the cultural construct of the place.

Transferred here though, that culture will play (for us) as sexist and conservative, with layers of misogyny rolled in.

The simple, easy to see values around women's dress - covered hair or mini skirts for example, versus deeper beliefs around sex before marriage and what that indicates, for them, in the value of a woman.

I do think that the racism accusations around this issue are extremely unfair, even though there will be some - 'cause people 'init?

I have heard many a sneery conversation around this topic in our "leafy suburb."

If bus loads of young men were to arrive tomorrow?

The "racism" would kick in sharpish.

MrsLifeisnotabowlofcherries4 · Yesterday 14:32

Catterbat · Yesterday 14:18

Since nobody had a problem with Ukrainian refugees (presumably because they were mostly female, rather than just ‘not brown’) can’t we just get rid of all the men? Not just the brown ones, all of them. Ship them all off somewhere else, since they’re all potentially dangerous to women and children. Why stop with the foreign ones?

The Ukranians were proper refugees fleeing war, the so called irregulars/illegals call them what you want who cross the Channel and have paid people smugglers lots of money to get here are not. Surely and I'm not including you in this I'm just highlighting your quote, people must be thick or just plain.stupid to think otherwise.

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