Civil unrest, what's really going on?

[Sadworld23]

My DH keeps chirping up with, there's riots here, protests there, immigrants have done assaults in xxx etc. He sees me as a bit of a do-gooder..

All UK places, but when I look at my regular news, there's very little reporting of it.

My DH has some MH issues currently and to confront him with 'what the heck are you reading?' isn't worth it right now.
I make comments such as, ooh that sounds grim and doesn't sound good, and that's very worrying, but I'd really like to know if it's really happening and where he's getting this info.

It has been in the main stream media:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c6276rlwdqko.amp

The one in Manchester was organized by Britain First which is neo-fascist anti-Islam group.

You should, in the interests of balance, also read the judge's extremely in depth comments on the case Tommy Robinson lost in the courts about the issues raised in the film (which caused him to go back to prison for contempt of court).

Don't automatically believe a man with a conviction for fraud is probably a good starting point. His followers who crowd-funded thousands of pounds for his defence would have done well to remember this. He then pleaded guilty and immediately went on a luxurious holiday on his release.

Er, the hotels were in residential areas also. That’s mainly where they were. Small towns and villages. Next to schools.

Relations son in Yorkshire requested a transfer for the same reason.

Perhaps take a breath and go back one step - why are all these immigrants being put into hotels in the first place? Because there are so many of them. Why are there so many? Because they keep coming across the channel in small boats - 25,000 so far this year! Why is this happening? Not because of 'far righters' but because of the lack of action of this government! Direct your anger at them!

However, you make a point that everyone should notice - your area is becoming de-valued and dangerous for the normal residents. NOT because of 'far righters' but because of our %$@£ government's policies or lack thereof!

We cannot keep going like this, something has to give, we can't keep accepting people in, thousands upon thousands. This is making me think of the series Years and Years'!

Obviously there are bad apples in the cart. I fully agree he is an asylum seeker who committed an awful crime.

This general consensus on here that outsiders are a threat is a story as old as the hills. A lot of people have very difficult lives and they want a scapegoat.

According to Migration Observatory which is based at Oxford University and provides impartial information on immigration, violent crime does not go up in areas where there are are asylum seekers but property crime does go up slightly. I attach a screen shot from their report and a link to it.

migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/immigration-and-crime-evidence-for-the-uk-and-other-countries/

I haven't had a chance to read the whole thread

I was also wondering how much people know about what's going on - and has been going on for ages

I'm assuming there isn't more talk on MN because it's pretty pointless discussing it here.

@FlyMeSomewhere they're already in with the general population. That happened ages ago. They don't actually get monitored in hotels though.

So you consider young girls being kidnapped and raped, and some women being murdered, as an acceptable price to pay to accommodate men we have zero need for and who will likely prove a financial burden to us as well as overcrowd an already full small country?

‘Bad apples’ I don’t think that will wash anymore when it comes to violent crimes against dc in particular.

I could get on board with a few “bad apples” if it was genuine asylum seekers. Women, children, disabled people fleeing horror. Not being bought over from France (not all on boats either), that well known war torn country, where I am going on holiday next week.

It’s no it though, is it? It’s all young men. I won’t say what I want or people start jumping up and down shouting “ drown the conspiracy theorist!” But many of us can see what is actually happening.

Especially those of us who used to work in media and have seen how ridiculous everything is.

Of course I don’t! I am a decent and reasonable person.

But the evidence is that asylum seekers are no more likely to commit this type of crime than anyone else.

Under international law, we have an obligation to protect refugees. There are many dangerous counties in the world where thr people are living under constant conflict - Afghanistan, Syria, Somalia, Myanmar, Sudan to name but a few.

Dizzy dizzy - the people fleeing France on boats are largely male economic migrants.

Do only young men with destroyed documents and passports live in these ‘dangerous countries’ and need to be protected then? Where are the women and children? Who’s protecting them? Because their husbands appear to be deserting them left, right and centre to get to the UK.

Moat it then are from countries with war, conflict or a lot of violence or oppressive regimes. If you scroll a long way down in this article, you will see a bar chart showing that. Although I am attaching a screen shot for ease.

www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8xgkx20dyvo

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Of course, they can say they came from these countries…. But they destroy their documents so how do we know where they came from? Nobody knows them from Adam!

And again, where are the women and children? Why is it only young men?? Or are these statistics of the BBC only for genuine refugees and not economic migrants disguised as refugees? You’re screenshotting stats that suit your narrative!

And of course the BBC will publish these figures to appeal to the bleeding hearts. They’re completely in denial about the masses that have been coming in by the boat load. As has been stated on this thread (which is the whole point of this thread in fact), is that the mainstream media including the BBC are purposely not reporting on crimes committed by these new comers! Duh!

Per capita matters.

You can check it out here if you want a mainstream media source: Foreigners convicted of up to 23pc of sex crimes

China with it's usual efficiency has dealt with the mosques.

"Last major Arabic-style mosque in China loses its domes | China | The Guardian" https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/25/shadian-last-major-islamic-style-mosque-in-china-loses-its-domes

The Irish are pretty pissed off too, and France is not far behind.

"Churches are burning across Europe. But why? | News Analysis | Premier Christianity" https://www.premierchristianity.com/news-analysis/churches-are-burning-across-europe-but-why/18575.article

Newspapers and TV channels have their own algorithm. That's why the Guardian is different to the Telegraph and the BBC is different to GB News.

Yet the useful idiots among us cheer on more unvetted men, many of whom are a terrorist risk. It would be funny if it wasn’t so serious. The public needs to wake up to this, and quickly. We are the only population where such a significant % seem ashamed to put the safety of their own children before the wants of men who consider them less than human.

They are more likely to move them out of these hotels if far righters keep kicking off outside though.