Civil unrest, what's really going on?

[Sadworld23]

My DH keeps chirping up with, there's riots here, protests there, immigrants have done assaults in xxx etc. He sees me as a bit of a do-gooder..

All UK places, but when I look at my regular news, there's very little reporting of it.

My DH has some MH issues currently and to confront him with 'what the heck are you reading?' isn't worth it right now.
I make comments such as, ooh that sounds grim and doesn't sound good, and that's very worrying, but I'd really like to know if it's really happening and where he's getting this info.

We live on the Kent coast. It’s an increasing issue but not one that is reported in the media and not one you would probably see on a day out as housing for the migrant population is purposefully placed well away from the tourist-y part of our town…

I would caution that a lot of far right posts on X are fake and are often proven to be fake but far righters are quick to start running around screaming rather than ask questions and use their common sense! If you film a mosque you will see Muslim men but put that on a far right channel on X and all the dopey people believe that every inch of every street in the UK that looks like that.

Stop lying. This isn’t helping. Denial will only inflame tensions more. What we need to see is full transparency and action.

i was unaware of the scale of these problems - but this all begs the question as to why Starmer decided to shut down the Rwanda scheme that the previous government had set up?

I just asked chat gpt whether Rwanda was a safe country and it said yes, as long as you keep away from one of the borders and don’t do stuff like getting drunk in the street. It also said that road safety was an issue.

Getting sent 4000 miles away is a massive deterrent to people crossing the channel dangerously.

I then asked chat gpt whether the capital of Rwanda was safer than London.

“If you're asking about general personal safety, street crime, and public order, Kigali is currently safer than London”

And what really gets me is if these countries they are leaving are so dangerous, why on earth are these men happy to leave their women and children there. I’d welcome them, it’s the men that are the problem.

So why would anyone want to import more? This argument is idiotic.

There is a lot of stuff on X. I hardly go on there asi find it so depressing, however, there is a lot of different footage from all over the country on there. There were demonstrations at various cities in the Uk this weekend. The biggest one seemed to be in Manchester. The footage is there to see but not reported in MSM.

Scrapping it on day one was a big mistake that could cost Labour another term. On why mn is a good record of what posters were screaming for, they wanted it gone.

Starmer needs to make an urgent announcement and outline and implement a solution in days and weeks, not months or years. God only knows where he is, on the beach but my goodness if he does not address this soon last summers riots are going to look like a teddy bears picnic - the difference this time being there is much more national support for the protests now, we can see that from the polls.

If I were a migrant I would be going home and sharpish. This is about to turn very very ugly.

I don't think the BBC has reported on the Manchester march or the Canary Wharf protest?

Protest marches in London, Essex and Manchester have been leading on the BBC news on R4 last week or so.
@Sadworld23 the problem with YouTube is the reports are unverified and once you watch one type of report the algorithm pushes others that are increasingly outlandish. Take for example the story of the woman walking her dog who disappeared by a river with her phone still on a meeting call. YouTube reports were absolutely bizarre and it caused a lot of heartache to her husband and DDs in addition to the fact she was missing. She had indeed fallen in the river as police first suggested but the family had to endure awful speculation mainly whipped up by YouTube “news” reports and Twitter.
BBC news is incredibly rigourous - that’s why people call it woke, right wing or left wing .. it’s trying to tread a path down the middle that is none sensationalist and judgemental.

It’s also good to remember there are bad men everywhere of all colour, race and religion not just immigrants and refugees - white men have perpetuated many awful crimes too but we don’t kick them out of this country.

I wonder why

Extreme? Are you kidding?
What a blasé response from both of you.
There has just been an attempted kidnap of a 10 year old girl by an asylum seeker living rent free in a hotel in Wilmslow. Don’t think your response would have been the same if it were your daughter.

OP, your DH is likely watching similar news sources to what I watch on YouTube. Go and have a look at Tousi TV. Mayhar Tousi has been reporting on a lot of these disturbances, many of which are never reported in MSM or barely mentioned. The online world has also been up in arms about the Online Safety Act, there's plenty to be found on that topic as well.

Also check out Prof David Betz, he's a professor specialising in civil unrest and has spoken thoughtfully about the state of the UK and the possible things that may happen. He's been interviewed by many people on YT. Talk of civil war may seem over the top to many of us but we are sleepwalking into it. I do think Brits tend to dismiss these things, in this case, probably wise to take heed instead, just be aware of what may be coming.

Yes we have too much crime here already - our prisons are bursting at the seams. We certainly don’t need tens of thousands more do we. It’s this kind of thinking that is so limited.

There's some on here that show what a big part of the issue is, yes there are wrong uns but its silly to say that every single immigrant is a big bad man! Lots aren't! You wouldn't say that every white British male is bad and dangerous because of what some white men do? I live in a town where HMOs are cropping up everywhere thanks to government financial incentivisation, houses in nice residential areas, near schools, areas where women walk alone etc. The far righters outside these hotels are making things worse! Of they bully the govt to move them out of hotels, they turn up in HMOs in residential areas where they are unmonitored! Far righters make life a lot more dangerous for women and children by removing these people from hotels, find intelligence here! Bullying outside hotels won't get them deported because they have the right to be processed! All you do is for them to be scattered around residential areas.

You’re all living in cuckoo land. The media chooses what it publishes according to their agenda and narrative controlled by politicians who are controlled by money among various other things. Just because you’re not reading about it doesn’t mean it isn’t happening, similarly just because you are reading about it doesn’t mean it’s verified and true.
The Middle East is the worst region on earth as far as violence, subjugation of women, holy war, sacrifice of families, religious extremism and conflict is concerned. And it’s all coming to the UK and if you’re too trusting/woke/western to understand the issues this brings then it will be to your detriment.
I don’t know if you won’t see it or you can’t, but very soon you won’t be able to hide behind your rhetoric and veil of humanitarian
concern because it will at your doorstep and far too late to do much about it.
Call me all the names you want, I’ve heard it all. It didn’t make it any less true.

It was both. I lived and worked in Rotherham at one point. There were local councillors, council workers and police who did not want to be seen as racist. The Jay report cited institutional political correctness.

Do you have children? Why aren’t you more worried about your safety and theirs? It’s bizarre.

There is quite a lot of civil unrest ongoing at the moment but a lot of the time the mainstream media are not reporting on it or the linked sensitive stories leading to the particular local civil unrest. The BBC inparticular are very adapt at not reporting certain civil unrest and sensitive stories. It all feels like things are simmering in this country at the moment and it'll just need one big story to hit and it'll all kick off at any moment.

If not then I’d ask why. Is it a gov request to avoid it.

Where is the ‘government’?
Where is Starmer?

Exactly! What the fuck is that poster talking about! Mental health, gang masters and dodgy landlords indeed! They CHOSE to come here on boats. No ‘gang master’ forced them at gun point. They get put up in hotels not given some dodgy landlord! That poster is cuckoo to the point they are twisting themselves in knots with their denial and dismissive attitude and would rather side with the perpetrators than admit that a 12 year old got raped! They are that much in denial it’s vile! It’s bleeding hearts like this that’s got us into this mess in the first place.

Utter nonsense - one specific group has been banned

It led on the lunchtime news report on BBC R4 on Sunday. Marches in Manchester and London and had reporting on Essex for days before that.