Civil unrest, what's really going on?

[Sadworld23]

My DH keeps chirping up with, there's riots here, protests there, immigrants have done assaults in xxx etc. He sees me as a bit of a do-gooder..

All UK places, but when I look at my regular news, there's very little reporting of it.

My DH has some MH issues currently and to confront him with 'what the heck are you reading?' isn't worth it right now.
I make comments such as, ooh that sounds grim and doesn't sound good, and that's very worrying, but I'd really like to know if it's really happening and where he's getting this info.

Oh most women have. What do you think marriage is about? Just that. You got married and the roots of marriage is ownership of women.

Hope you didn't get 'given away'. Or hope your husband didn't give you a ring to show ownership or ask your old 'owner' if they could marry you.

Oh this who has it worse shite is oppression olympics. Pretend clapbacks used to validate one kind of oppression at the expense of another. It minimises one oppressive experience to validate another when all oppression is harmful. Shame you encourage oppression that you do not seem as being 'that bad' preventing women from speaking out. When all oppression is bad.

I would absolutely ask where he is getting that from. This sounds like classic right wing radicalisation!

It’s neither here nor there what someone’s immigration status is in the reporting of that crime.

If it was some white dude it would be father of so many, son/nephew/brother of.

Classic racial information bias! That person who committed that crime was also someone’s something or other.

This thread is like a massive demented Overton window. Thankfully I don't know anyone irl who thinks as these two clowns do. @Fetaface thanks for your sterling contributions to sanity; I'm out.

Marriage law is literally change of ownership of women.

Asking for a hand in marriage - asking her old owner if they can have his property.

Giving her away - old owner handing over ownership to a new owner.

Change of surname - new name to signify new ownership.

Ring - shows ownership.

Not comparing but your game of oppression olympics by validating some forms of oppression as not being as bad as another minimises it. To suggest that some forms of oppression is ok is shocking.

If Hubby is reading this news on his smart mobile, no doubt the spyware is tailor-making his viewing to what it thinks he wants to see, thus it will keep finding relevant articles...

Our family no longer live in the UK, but one of the older generations will email daily about how bad things are there. I've got no idea where he reads his stuff either as it doesn't come across my social media platforms.

Given attempted kidnap of the 10 year old girl in Nuneaton, reaction in Warwickshire as everywhere else, is only a matter of time!

We have to protect our own above ALL others.

Sorry, are you seriously trying to claim that British women choosing to wear a wedding ring and being walked down the aisle by their dad is akin to being forced to veil yourself from head to toe, forbidden to leave the house without a male relative, banned from accessing education and forbidden from working? I do not know what is wrong with you.

It's only just out in the open.. theres a protest planned for next saturday

Sadly I do. They will never shop their mates who grope women in the bar and who they 'woke her up with a fuck' and that is seen as ok apparently.

When men start to stop their mates then we will notice a difference. They will not though. That would make a huge difference if sexual assault wasn't normalised and excused in society.

I’m sure 90% of Afghan women would be happy to trade places with you if that is what you consider oppression.

Nah I am saying the root of this is chattel.

More oppression olympics. Shame you think some oppression is ok because 'we are british' and that is how we control our women, right.

More oppression olympics.

Why do you justify some oppression and say it is acceptable to oppress women because 'others have it worse' so what we do here is acceptable!

None of it is ok. Minimising it is also supporting it.

There are lots of right wing videos out there showing violent protests featuring mostly people of colour claiming that 'Europe has fallen'. I was just in London, Paris and Rome and the cities felt peaceful and safe. Of course there are still terrible crimes that happen but crime has gone down in most developed countries in recent decades.

From who? Men? Just some criminal men or all criminal men?

Yeah that's totally the same as 6 year old girls being sold to old men in the name of marriage 🤦‍♀️

Women choosing to maintain a few old traditions is not the same thing as oppression.

Wearing a wedding ring or being given away by your dad is not oppression. It’s alarming that you think it is.

Women are no longer owned by their husbands. Marital rape is illegal. Both parties have the right to initiate a divorce - neither can block the other from leaving the marriage. Marital property is shared rather than belonging solely to the husband.

You seem to believe we are still living in the 1950s.

I never said it was. You made the comparison not me.

So you are saying that some oppression is ok? Where is your line in the sand? What oppression do you think we should promote here in the UK and what is not ok? Make a list.

Overall, violent crime has gone down. But highly visible forms of crime that have a real impact on quality of life are on the rise - phone thefts, bike thefts, shoplifting etc. The Financial Times published graphs today showing just this.

Obviously not.. what the fck are you even talking about??

I'm married and noone "owns" me.. I was given away at my wedding because it's tradition.. what are you even banging on about?

Traditions rooted in ownership. The marriage issue was related to the chattels and ownership lines. Which is still happening today. Keep up with the thread.

Oh there is a lot of oppression in the UK for women. I haven't shared about oppression.

Keep up please.

Let me make it simple for you. All oppression is bad. Very bad things are worse than less bad things. Women in Afghanistan are oppressed. Women in Britain face some residual sexism and challenges but we are not oppressed.

In Scotland. People here are sick and tired of the amount of people coming here too. There is definitely unrest.

Well you are absolutely seem to be justifying that some oppression is ok because 'others have it worse' so we should be grateful we just have to deal with this oppression.

Marriage is all about ownership. That is what the aim of it was. someone said we do not treat women as chattels here. Yes we do. Husbands often treat their wives as chattels in the UK.

Exactly. It’s the same demographic who scoff at feminism and think casual sexism and misogyny is ok, neglect their own kids etc who will suddenly be all for women and children when it comes to demonising the “bad brown men”.

Remember that vile young man who murdered his girlfriend (with a cross bow I think it was), and also her sister and her mum? Well he had dark hair and slightly sallow skin. There were there cretins on X pretending to be outraged by it and insistent he was “foreign” and non-white.

When it came out he was white English the same X accounts were as quiet as anything. Disgusting.

Oh now you get it that all oppression is bad. But in the UK we are not to talk about it you mean or deal with it because it makes the mens have hurty feelings?

Oh we damn right are oppressed. If you do not know that then wow.