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Russell Brand charged

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ThePoshUns · 04/04/2025 14:06

Just breaking on Sky News that Brand has been charged with a number of rapes and sexual offences. Good.
I hope his victims are feeling vindicated and supported.

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Maitri108 · 05/04/2025 20:28

ARainyNightInSoho · 05/04/2025 20:07

I know it’s been said before but it’s worth repeating:
’what’s the collective noun for a group of rapists?’

The answer is always (since the beginning of time) and everywhere (like, every country in the world) Men!

In some parts of the UK in the last 20 years it’s been Muslim men. But, it’s not like violence against women in this country is new, is it? There was plenty of it 200, 100, 50 years ago. Way before a substantial Muslim population settled here. Basically, whenever it was or wherever it was it has always been where there’s a particularly patriarchal society.

Fighting over which group of men is responsible is a total waste of our time and energy and diverts us from the reality underlying all violence against women. Stop the factional arguing, it’s a gift to patriarchy.

Sexual violence is rarely reported so I'm wondering where you got your evidence from. Women are predominantly assaulted by people they know such as colleagues, friends and spouses.

ARainyNightInSoho · 05/04/2025 20:32

Maitri108 · 05/04/2025 20:28

Sexual violence is rarely reported so I'm wondering where you got your evidence from. Women are predominantly assaulted by people they know such as colleagues, friends and spouses.

What? What part of this post are you questioning? What evidence is needed that rapes are committed by men?

Maitri108 · 05/04/2025 20:35

ARainyNightInSoho · 05/04/2025 20:32

What? What part of this post are you questioning? What evidence is needed that rapes are committed by men?

In some parts of the UK in the last 20 years it’s been Muslim men. But, it’s not like violence against women in this country is new, is it? There was plenty of it 200, 100, 50 years ago. Way before a substantial Muslim population settled here.

You seem to be suggesting that in some areas, where Muslims have settled, rape is predominantly being carried out by Muslim men. I'm asking what evidence you have for that.

nasdout · 05/04/2025 21:47

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nasdout · 05/04/2025 21:49

PineappleCoconut · 05/04/2025 01:32

Good

Those brave women Flowers

as for the satirical quote - perfection Grin

I suspect some weren’t quite sure what had happened as he spouted so much sodding nonsense they struggled to comprehend anything, and were left pondering his verbose ramblings too much to process the actual events that occurred.

Just to explain, the reason why some people have been defending him on social media is because he became political with his youtube commentaries - which were cancelled - and so there are those who think that others who do not agree with his politics are trying to bring legal action to effectively suppress opposition. Meloni made a similar comment in relaton to Le Pen's ban recently. And some people are saying that trial by internet is not acceptable not because they are fans necessarily but because they respect "innocent until proven guilty" and the legal system.

No one on this thread knows for sure what happened (I assume) and none of us should be commenting because it is now a live action.

Nextdoor55 · 05/04/2025 22:49

nasdout · 05/04/2025 21:49

Just to explain, the reason why some people have been defending him on social media is because he became political with his youtube commentaries - which were cancelled - and so there are those who think that others who do not agree with his politics are trying to bring legal action to effectively suppress opposition. Meloni made a similar comment in relaton to Le Pen's ban recently. And some people are saying that trial by internet is not acceptable not because they are fans necessarily but because they respect "innocent until proven guilty" and the legal system.

No one on this thread knows for sure what happened (I assume) and none of us should be commenting because it is now a live action.

I agree with this. Although looking at the thread content it's taken wild turn after wild turn, it's literally unfathomable & has little to do with RB & his guilt or innocence.

ARainyNightInSoho · 06/04/2025 03:00

@Maitri108 I am not suggesting at all that Muslim men are more likely to rape. Not at all. I was making the point that the relevant factor which connects all rapists all over the world and since the beginning of time is that they are men. In Italy; Catholic men, in Greece; Orthodox men; In India;Hindu men, In London; agnostic (or whatever)men etc etc. The religion is totally irrelevant. In Rotherham many of the men in the grooming gangs were Muslims. That’s because many men in Rotherham are Muslims. That’s all.

Maitri108 · 06/04/2025 03:18

ARainyNightInSoho · 06/04/2025 03:00

@Maitri108 I am not suggesting at all that Muslim men are more likely to rape. Not at all. I was making the point that the relevant factor which connects all rapists all over the world and since the beginning of time is that they are men. In Italy; Catholic men, in Greece; Orthodox men; In India;Hindu men, In London; agnostic (or whatever)men etc etc. The religion is totally irrelevant. In Rotherham many of the men in the grooming gangs were Muslims. That’s because many men in Rotherham are Muslims. That’s all.

95% of people in Rotherham aren't Muslim.

StanleyCrocs · 06/04/2025 12:32

Maitri108 · 06/04/2025 03:18

95% of people in Rotherham aren't Muslim.

Weren’t the men in the grooming gangs from Pakistan specifically? Rather than generally Muslin.

Maitri108 · 06/04/2025 12:38

StanleyCrocs · 06/04/2025 12:32

Weren’t the men in the grooming gangs from Pakistan specifically? Rather than generally Muslin.

I believe the majority of men were of Pakistani heritage but British.

StanleyCrocs · 06/04/2025 12:47

Maitri108 · 06/04/2025 12:38

I believe the majority of men were of Pakistani heritage but British.

I see.

nasdout · 06/04/2025 13:36

Can anyone tell me what conspiracy theories Russell Brand has talked about on his shows? A couple of posters have referred to conspiracy theories, what were they? (I watched only a few minutes of a couple of his shows, they were too slow moving for me, but didn't see any conspiracy theories).

dapsnotplimsolls · 06/04/2025 14:03

nasdout · 06/04/2025 13:36

Can anyone tell me what conspiracy theories Russell Brand has talked about on his shows? A couple of posters have referred to conspiracy theories, what were they? (I watched only a few minutes of a couple of his shows, they were too slow moving for me, but didn't see any conspiracy theories).

Anti-Vaxx.

PrettyDamnCosmic · 06/04/2025 14:07

nasdout · 06/04/2025 13:36

Can anyone tell me what conspiracy theories Russell Brand has talked about on his shows? A couple of posters have referred to conspiracy theories, what were they? (I watched only a few minutes of a couple of his shows, they were too slow moving for me, but didn't see any conspiracy theories).

The usual rubbish. Wuhan lab leak, Anti-vax, Anti-lockdown, WEF, "Great Reset", pro-Russian, Ukraine brought the invasion on themselves...

Maitri108 · 06/04/2025 14:07

nasdout · 06/04/2025 13:36

Can anyone tell me what conspiracy theories Russell Brand has talked about on his shows? A couple of posters have referred to conspiracy theories, what were they? (I watched only a few minutes of a couple of his shows, they were too slow moving for me, but didn't see any conspiracy theories).

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66842630.amp

Picture of Russell Brand with Verify logo on the top

Russell Brand: How the comedian built his YouTube audience on half-truths - BBC News

The comedian has spent recent years building an online presence, often getting millions of views.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66842630.amp

nasdout · 06/04/2025 14:10

PrettyDamnCosmic · 06/04/2025 14:07

The usual rubbish. Wuhan lab leak, Anti-vax, Anti-lockdown, WEF, "Great Reset", pro-Russian, Ukraine brought the invasion on themselves...

Anti vax as in covid vax?

Some of the things listed are conspiracy theory based, some aren't. The WEF has talked a fair bit about the great reset, and there are numerous articles on their website about how they see the future. In relation to Ukraine and Russia did he say similar things to what Trump is saying?

ArabellaScott · 06/04/2025 14:11

Wuhan lab leak is not what I'd call rubbish.

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/german-spy-agency-concluded-covid-virus-likely-leaked-lab-papers-say-2025-03-12/

Which doesn't mean Brand is credible, of course.

RedToothBrush · 06/04/2025 14:14

kungfoofighting · 05/04/2025 11:16

He produced loads, lots of it wasn’t related to sex at all. Lots of it was funny. (Again, as I said, wouldn’t watch any of it now).

I personally don’t recall seeing or laughing at any stand-up routine related to sexual coercion, but that doesn’t mean it’s not out there.

And the radio show where he recounted having just shown his dick to a woman in the building (which I heard about when the documentary came out) – I mean it’s unbelievable that it wasn’t questioned at the time.

I always hated him. But I had actually forgotten how much until DH reminded me, that despite my love of Big Brother I couldn't bare to watch him on Big Mouth because I found him so appallingly sexist and grim.

Whatever happens the whole thing will be an appalling circus guilty or not guilty. And lots of people won't believe what happens in the end.

For this reason I'm not remotely interested in the outcome. There are no good outcomes really.

The mans behaviour whether legal or not, shouldn't have been celebrated and applauded by TV stations in the first place.

PrettyDamnCosmic · 06/04/2025 14:16

nasdout · 06/04/2025 14:10

Anti vax as in covid vax?

Some of the things listed are conspiracy theory based, some aren't. The WEF has talked a fair bit about the great reset, and there are numerous articles on their website about how they see the future. In relation to Ukraine and Russia did he say similar things to what Trump is saying?

These are all unsubstantiated conspiracy theories. If you believe in the "Great Reset" then you have drunk the Kool-Aid too.
Blaming Ukraine for Russia's invasion is the ultimate in victim blaming. It's classic DARVO so it's unsurprising that both Trump & Brand are spouting the same lies.

nasdout · 06/04/2025 14:18

ArabellaScott · 06/04/2025 14:11

Wuhan lab leak is not what I'd call rubbish.

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/german-spy-agency-concluded-covid-virus-likely-leaked-lab-papers-say-2025-03-12/

Which doesn't mean Brand is credible, of course.

It sounds like what he said was part ignorant, part true, not actually conspiracy theory stuff for the most part.

There is a lot of information on the web about all the subjects he talked about, often more reliable and more nuanced than what he was saying, but he had a huge audience I think is the thing.

TENSsion · 06/04/2025 14:23

PrettyDamnCosmic · 06/04/2025 14:07

The usual rubbish. Wuhan lab leak, Anti-vax, Anti-lockdown, WEF, "Great Reset", pro-Russian, Ukraine brought the invasion on themselves...

I don’t think these are all conspiracy theories.

Maitri108 · 06/04/2025 14:27

The mans behaviour whether legal or not, shouldn't have been celebrated and applauded by TV stations in the first place.

This is the crux of the problem. These men become untouchable despite their behaviour.

Production companies should have strict policies in place and assistants shouldn't be scouting audiences for the 'talent' to have sex with.

The BBC in the 70s was renowned for this. Radio 1 DJs and big stars like Savile got away with whatever they wanted.

PrettyDamnCosmic · 06/04/2025 14:27

ArabellaScott · 06/04/2025 14:11

Wuhan lab leak is not what I'd call rubbish.

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/german-spy-agency-concluded-covid-virus-likely-leaked-lab-papers-say-2025-03-12/

Which doesn't mean Brand is credible, of course.

It's a rubbish theory. The evidence is very shaky. Here is a recent editorial in Lancet Microbe a peer review medical journal

SARS-CoV-2 is a natural virus that found its way into humans through mundane contact with infected wildlife that went on to cause the most consequential pandemic for over a century. While it is scholarly to entertain alternative hypotheses, particularly when evidence is scarce, these alternative hypotheses have been implausible for a long time and have only become more-so with increasing scrutiny. Those who eagerly peddle suggestions of laboratory involvement have consistently failed to present credible arguments to support their positions.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanmic/article/PIIS2666-5247(24)00206-4/fulltext

nasdout · 06/04/2025 14:28

The BBC article here says:

"A cursory glance at Brand's YouTube channel could suggest someone with a deep belief in conspiracy theories.

But Dr Jasper thinks the reality is more nuanced.

"He stopped short of actively endorsing conspiracy theories on a number of occasions," she says"

The Dr Jasper of the article talks about how big Brand's audience was, and she comments about the fact that what he said was not always very well researched - nuggets of truth intermingled with personal opinion and suggestion - he is presented in the article as a sort of click bait producer.

Quite a lot about the article is about how much Brand was making.... which is a bit naughty really as the criticism should either be about conspriacy theory vs well researched information or about whether as a matter of policy normal people should not be able to make a lot of money out of talking nonsense and being a bad influence on youtube, which many people do, and not conflate the two things. This isn't about Brand, though, more about the conflating of the two issues in the article.

Also, you get extremely well researched journalists and academics being discredited when they give unpopular views. Robert Parry went from being well respected investigated journalist to "Kremlin mouthpiece" when he commented on the US involvement in Maidan. You really couldn't compare Brand with Robert Parry.

PrettyDamnCosmic · 06/04/2025 14:34

TENSsion · 06/04/2025 14:23

I don’t think these are all conspiracy theories.

Edited

Yet funnily enough the same people hold the same opinions all encompassing the same conspiracy theories. Anti-Net Zero & Climate Change Denial are usually part of the opinions.

Personally I don't think Brand holds any of these opinions except to promote his image & keep the money rolling in. Just like his baptism in the Thames it's just all performative. He can see which outrageous opinions get most views & delivers the goods accordingly. He is just a grifter doing what grifters do.