Grandma responsible for death of 2nd Grandchild

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https://www.wdhn.com/news/florida-grandmother-who-left-infant-in-hot-car-found-not-guilty-of-manslaughter/

I'm just watching this trial on YouTube and thought I'd look it up properly. This child, Uriel, was 7 months old and she left her in a hot car. Previously, she was looking after a toddler grandchild (same daughter's child) who slipped away while she was asleep and drowned.

I'm just gobsmacked.

It does sound as if the grandmother has some sort of impairment, or a lack of understanding about risk.
But the daughter was very very misguided as it sounds as if she didn’t really trust her and made a poor judgement call.

My own mother made a stupid decision when I once left her to babysit - talking about her belief in ghosts to my 4 year old DS when he woke up frightened 😳 I suspect it was deliberate because she resented being asked to babysit (she was very passive aggressive). She phoned us to come home because DS was (understandably) very distraught.
A pretty minor event in comparison but I made the decision never to leave her alone with DS, for more than a few minutes, ever again.

Because it's still a Grandma in charge of a DC that ended up dead although an accident she should have been more focussed on holding the baby safe in a baby sling.

I read about this a few weeks back. It would seem that the GM wasn't fit to care for any child and although I have sympathy for the parents I can't help thinking they are also negligent. Sometimes when I see elderly GPs caring for GC they seem to struggle. Obviously the GP should know their limits but it's ultimately on the parents to make that risk assessment. Free childcare isn't always worth the risk.

I suppose this is enhanced by us having babies later on in life than we used to. Our parents our older, too.

How do we even know she didn't actually kill them on purpose?.....

A friend of mine was looking after one of her grandchildren and the little boy wandered outside whilst she was making his lunch and drowned in the family pool which was to all interns and purposes childproof. To this day I don’t know exactly what happened as my friend now lives a life of almost total silence and has never seen her daughter and other grandchildren again. Neither has she any relationship with another of her daughters but she does with her other 2 children and their children.

It’s all just so terrible.

Tha comment shocked me too

Dying due to being left in a hot car is a horrendous death. I read a description of it once and it was truly horrific.

I think people who leave children in a hot car should be prosecuted. If more were taken to court others might pay more attention to what they are doing. If they won't remember for the child's sake maybe they will for their own. It is a well known problem in the US. In Southern California it can get to 100F by 10.00 a.m in the Summer. An un-air conditioned car interior goes up by one degree a minute so within half an hour means it can get to 130F. A baby won't survive those temperatures for long.

My friends’ dad was taking her five year old daughter - his grand daughter - for a walk one summer afternoon. They ended up on the canal towpath and her grand dad had tight hold of her hand. She twisted out of his grip to run and look at something and when he turned around literally two seconds later to see what she was doing, she’d disappeared. It turned out she had tripped and fallen into the water. The police divers found her body wedged under the ledge - too late to save her.

He never got over what happened and blames himself - it’s affected his life significantly. But l find it interesting that my friend and her family don’t bear him any ill will and still trust him with their kids - she accepts that it was just a tragic accident and out of his control.

How on earth do you leave a child in a car, any car, let alone one in Florida temperatures ? Did she forget she was in charge of a child? Horrific. And surely you’d be hyper vigilant as another child had already died in her care.

the grandmother appears to be smirking in this mugshot
https://www.wfla.com/nexstar-news-wire/florida-woman-charged-after-second-grandchild-dies-in-her-care/

@Weepixie is that because your friends daughters cut her off? How terribly awful for them all

Woah the mother didn’t know the police wanted to press charges until after her second child was killed?! wtf was grandpa whilst the baby was being heated to death in the car?! Urgh this all looks so bad and deliberate.

Typical MN response. Any excuse to get in a dig about men.

Shocked to see the grandmother wasn’t particularly elderly

Why is the grandmother looking so pleased with herself in that mugshot (link above) ???

At the very least you’d be looking crushed with grief.

It often is Fathers tho! I live in the U.S.
A lot of times it’s because of a change in routine eg Dad being asked to take child to nursery on their way to work and they go in to autopilot on the way and drive to their regular office and forget the sleeping baby in the back. It’s why anytime there’s a change of routine and my husband takes my children I always check they got to school ok and confirm with him at the time they would have been dropped off. I also make a huge deal of reminders in the morning before they set off. A simple reminder can save your child if you’re ever in this situation. And no it’s not always Dads but a lot of the accidental cases are fathers.

She looks pretty sharp, capable & on the ball doesn't she. I was expecting to see 'pond life'.

I was driving a hire car recently (in USA) a brand new Subaru with large electric screen for all the dashboard monitors like speed and fuel gauge etc - and everytime you turned the engine off it flashed up in huge letters - Look In The Back Seat

I assume there’s a way of turning it off and on depending on whether you had kids or not.

But it seemed like a good feature. I had the car for a week and didn’t get ‘blind’ to the message - there was something in the way it popped up.

I find it shocking Grandma was sleeping whilst looking after the little boy. Anyone with toddlers knows you can’t risk that if they are out of a crib. And that she was out for lunch with the baby!! So she put her in the car and somehow forgot about her on the short drive home? This all reeks of neglect at best.

It's actually true in this case. It's usually fathers.

what else can come from this so called democratic country? every second woman on fb who is American suffered a family sa.....Musk talking about gangs here, they should see their traffciking and family sa and other a-ses and nobody batters an eye lid.

Imagine being an jury member and finding out afterwards that this had occurred.

Yes, ''forgetting'' children in the back seat of a vehicle... how can one do that?
It's actually terrifying to think that a grandparent or father might ''forget''.

That grandmother must be severely negligent or suffering cognitive decline.

I'd guess it's the mother's mother as opposed to the MIL for this grandmother to be given a second chance after the first tragedy.