Jess Philips

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Jess Phillips suggests she received quicker NHS treatment because she voted for Gaza ceasefire.

Wait, what?

Callmej, not wanting a ceasefire is not anti Hamas , it’s anti humanity. Caring about your own healthcare needs whilst supporting the total destruction of a populations healthcare system and wanting a war to continue that is spreading polio among under 5s.

Demanding a ceasefire from Israel and not from Hamas, whilst ignoring the fact that Hamas continue to attack Israel, continue to hold hostages and continue to reject ceasefire terms doesn't make you pro-humanity, it makes you pro-Hamas. Obviously I want a ceasefire, everyone wants a ceasefire. This is not Israel bombarding a cowering nation who are vigorously waving a white flag and doing everything they can to save their people and achieve peace. This is a terrorist organisation with the sworn ambition of murdering all Jews, who have raped, murdered and tortured innocents including children, and who are still holding civilians hostage. They are still firing endless missiles at Israel and are refusing to release the hostages, despite knowing that if they release the hostages and surrender the terrorists, there will be peace. So why don't they? And why aren't you condemning them, why aren't your demands for ceasefire aimed squarely at Hamas when it's only them who can agree to it. The only way Israel can get a ceasefire is by agreeing to the terrorists' demands. Do you think they should? Hamas also always breaks ceasefires - what do you want Israel to do then, just let them carry on chucking bombs at them and not retaliate? Let them hop over the border every so often to do some raping and murdering??

A couple of days ago when Hamas realised Israelis were about to rescue six hostages, they shot them. For no reason. They weren't going to be of any 'use' to them dead, they could've let them go home. This is who you are defending when you insist it is all Israel's fault. You and I apparently have extremely different morals.

(FYI Israel is pausing the war to allow vaccinations for the Palestinians; can you think of any other time when a defender has agreed to pause retaliation so their attackers can get vaccinated?! Yeah, they're definitely the bad guys here!)

However, this thread is not the place for this discussion. It should have no relevance whatsoever to Jess Phillips' actions - unless you're suggesting it is acceptable that she was given preferential medical treatment because of her views...?

I would say it’s not true . The statement about all doctors being Palestinian as I said upthread is not something anyone who actually lived in Birmingham including Jess would say as it simply isn’t true it’s a ridiculous statement. Who spreads these smears and lies ? I am certainly not her biggest fan but think these are lies spread with someone with an agenda.

Written smears and lies are subject to an action in libel.

The question is - why has there been no rebuttal or a threat of legal action unless the allegations are withdrawn?

Your answer please.

It would be easy to discount a public event

She might be prone to telling tall stories

Calmej, Not defending the actions of Hamas , however one of the last time The IDF rescued a few hostages they blew up a refugee camp killing hundreds of displaced people without mercy. It’s obvious Isreal holds all the cards here and Netanyahu has refused all ceasefire calls. I can’t believe you actually think wanting an immediate end to this blood shed that as wiped out 2.6 percent of all Gazas’s children makes someone pro Hamas. Any way if you seriously believe you will be discriminated in your medical care by not being pro Hamas then please join your local right wing organisation where you can spew as much nonsense about Muslims as you want.

You sound very much like you are in fact defending the actions of Hamas. IDF were rescuing their own citizens that Hamas had kidnapped. Hamas were just murdering civilians because they didn't want them to be rescued. Presumably you are fine with Hamas just keeping hold of their 'hostages'? Or do you think they should return them? Do you think they should stop chucking missiles at Israel, do you think they should surrender? This would end the war and save the Palestinians, why aren't you calling for that? A couple of weeks ago, IDF offered a peace deal (again), Hamas didn't even bother to turn up. Is that still Israel's fault? Which of the terrorist's demands specifically do you think Israel should agree to? Do you consider Hamas to even be terrorists - do you assign any blame to them at all for what's happening to Palestine? For someone claiming to not be pro-Hamas, you sure are sounding pretty fucking pro-Hamas. You have not even denounced them as terrorists or assigned any blame on them whatsoever - in fact, you are trying to defend their most recent example of murderous cruelty with 'yeah, but... IDF did something bad once too...'. Maybe get off al jazeera and read some actual news.

I have no idea what you mean by your last statement. You think it's acceptable for me to be discriminated against because I'm anti-Hamas, and if I don't like it I should join some 'local right wing organisation'. How would help me to gain access to fair NHS treatment? How would 'spew[ing] as much nonsense about Muslims as you want' help me to gain access to fair NHS treatment? You think anyone who doesn't like their access to medical care being based on their political opinions should attack Muslims? Should in fact join an organised group with the express purpose of encouraging hostility again Muslims? That's what you're suggesting?? Please clarify.

I have at no point said anything at all about Muslims, nonsensical or otherwise. What comment of mine specifically are you referring to??

And I don't even understand what Muslims have to do with anything - my stance is that people shouldn't be discriminated against because of their political opinions. Are you claiming that all Muslims are going to discriminate against people if they don't like their political opinions, and if I don't like it then I must be anti-Muslim? Are you trying to say all Muslims are anti-Israel, that all Muslims agree with you that the war is all the IDF's fault and nothing at all to do with Hamas, and if I don't like it I should 'local right wing organisation' to stir up hate against them? Please clarify.

Would not wanting a ceasefire at the beginning of the Second World War be “anti humanity” too? Would letting the Nazis continue their reign be “pro humanity”? Letting the Nazis bomb London - “pro-humanity”?

war is awful but sometimes necessary. Israel cannot just let a terrorist group invade its territory and murder and attack its people. They must defend themselves. They cannot just ignore the continuous rocket attacks from terrorists who have vowed to murder them all.

it is in all of humanity’s interests that Hamas is defeated and the population in Gaza deradicalised. That means no more racism or violence taught in UNRWA schools and the setting up of a proper civil society instead of a terror state. There is no future in a terror state for its citizens nor is it of benefit to humanity as a whole.

There has only been one polio case and israel has instigated a vaccination programme. Hamas sadly do not care about the people of Gaza and never have. The people of Israel have been kinder than Hamas to Gazans - yet Hamas are the government they elected.

It isn’t at all true that the IDF blew up any refugee camp or killed “hundreds of people without mercy”. If you are referring to the rescue of Noa Argamani and the three men rescued with her, no unconnected civilians were killed. Those who were part of the kidnappers household and people who fired on Israeli troops were the only casualties. You cannot claim to be a civilian if you are part of a terrorist group and are holding a hostage prisoner in your home.

There is a lot of misinformation about Israel. Some spread it because they don’t know it is untrue. Others spread it because they don’t care and simply hate Jews.

Regardless, doctors and medical staff in the uk should treat people equally regardless of their political opinions (as they do in Israel). It is very worrying indeed if supporting terrorism gets you preferential treatment on the NHS.

It does sound doubtful I agree but she has been reported as saying it at a public event. The Sunday Times reported it at the weekend. So it does seem that she may have said it even if it’s not true.

Bollocks.
And the old Islamophobic trope rears it's head again I see, that wanting an end to bloodshed = pro terrorism. Proper right wing pile on here in this bullshit thread. One polio case and hardly any civilians dead in Gaza. Laughing at how mental that sounds.

Why do you spread so much disinformation then?

Just to add to this, I've just read on a Jonathan Pie tweet, 'If the Daily Mail is to be believed, she also stated that her lips were blue and she was struggling to breathe, which would be the more likely reason for her to be fast tracked.'

So yes, she went into the protocol for suspected cardiac issue or pulmonary embolism - the ones with the high mortality rate - where the A&E protocol is to get the patient moving toward that first intervention as quickly and safely as possible.

It's pretty scary for the patient, and doctors will tend to chat to aim to keep patients calm. If the patient has had breathing problems and might be a bit affected by that temporary dearth of oxygen, then the doctor may also be interested in assessing how much sense the patient is making. Talking about politics would be ideal, if the doc had recognised JP.

So I suspect she was genuinely, temporarily unwell, a tad hypoxemic, and that whatever she said online and what anyone else said/wrote is being regarded as personal, sensitive data and therefore being parked.

But she was lucid when she made the alleged comments, yes?

You see the distinction I hope.

Though I obviously don't know for sure, I also suspect she made it up. I think she was trying to say how terrible things were in the NHS after the Tories, where the only way she got seen was because she was an MP - and what's more, a well-loved MP who was adored so much by her constituents that they were falling over themselves to offer her assistance. Because she understood them and had even rebelled so that she could stand with them, because she's so brave and wonderful etc etc. I very much believe that's what it sounded like in her head. Out of her head of course it sounded like she was happy using her position to push past sicker patients and that she was happy for people to be deprived medical care for their political opinions. She's a fucking idiot and she didn't even realise what she was saying, and now she can't address it as she'll have to admit she was making up total bollocks to try and sound impressive when she is very much anything but. But the fact that she didn't even realise how awful the things she was saying were when they came out of her mouth does seem to illustrate she doesn't really find them too terrible, and that actually she believes she should get special treatment and that people with 'the right opinions' should be prioritised for care. It also seems to illustrate she's utterly incompetent and lacks the ability of thinking before she speaks, which you'd think would be quite an important skill for an MP to possess.

She doesn’t sound very bright does she ? Why is that these type of people are always so loud and full of themselves. Intelligent people doubt themselves more because they actually think and especially think before they speak.

Downing Street has said the NHS should not give any patients preferential treatment after Jess Phillips suggested she had received “quicker” care because she voted for a Gaza ceasefire.

Hmm.

She just needs to think before she speaks, her Twitter is also usually pretty questionable. Not that her views or opinions are overly controversial or whatever, but they aren't appropriate from a public figure in her job.

Jess is a big bag of wind.
I do hope, like so many things she witters, that this is not true.