Jess Philips

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Jess Phillips suggests she received quicker NHS treatment because she voted for Gaza ceasefire.

Wait, what?

I'm disgusted that a member of parliament could pull rank and queue-jump like this. She's not exactly covering herself in glory here, is she?

OK. I believe Jess Philips was right to vote for a ceasefire and I think anyone who doesn't is on the wrong side of history.

It's absolutely horrific - even if it didn't happen, it's terrifying that a member of government thinks it's acceptable to receive preferential treatment because they're an MP, and - so, so much worse - that it's acceptable for doctors to decide whether to offer or withhold medical care because of someone's political views. She very clearly shown who she is, I really hope people are listening - especially Starmer; if she's not immediately evicted from the party, nobody can suggest this lot are less corrupt than the Tories. They tried to line their own pockets, she's suggesting that people can be denied medical care for having 'the wrong' views. And we're only two months in...

Israel generally evacuates buildings before firing at terrorists there. Schools have not been in use by children since last October anyway. But that’s not the rules of war that if a terrorist group uses infrastructure that should be civilian for terrorist purposes then it has protection. Otherwise that would encourage the use of human shields.

in the war against ISIS the uk and USA and others in the coalition bombed many hospitals and schools. We smashed the main hospital in Mosul to smithereens with advanced “JDAM” bombs because we said it was used by terrorists. Same in Afghanistan. We face no warnings. Other armies are not as moral as the IDF.

@callmej I am a committed Labour voter and Philip's fan- and I agree with you. Do you have a reputable source for this story?

I presumed from what you said about most of the casualties being Hamas fighters that you knew the numbers that’s why I asked.

The IDF mentioned April’s figures as 12,000 + but I can’t find the latest.

On 7 April, the IDF said that more than 13,000 operative of Hamas and its allies had been killed by Israel in Gaza in the fighting (although an IDF press release gave 12,000+), in addition to the 1,000 killed on 7 October.

Absolutely. People’s political views should be utterly irrelevant when it comes to providing them with medical treatment.

What Israel is doing in Gaza is inhumane.

i think it was a horrendous thing to say. Any queue jumping affects all people- and given that it’s a hospital, who knows what the consequences could be.

So I suppose she could be lying. If so, really bizarre behaviour and I’d have expected her to refute it by now? But if it’s true, surely she should resign?

The IDF the most moral army in the world ... Is this a joke???

Is this true or is this the Daily Mail? As in, has all of the context been removed to make her look bad just because she's Labour?

The IDF do count the militants they eliminate and identify them so far as possible. There are estimates of civilian casualties but no reliable definitive counts. All reliable evidence points to the vast majority of casualties being militants.

Just a true statement. Did you say anything about the bombing of hospitals and schools by the us and uk coalition in the war against Isis in Mosul?

Bet you didn’t.

Reliable evidence?

We are talking about Gaza. Unless you think murdering children is fine because it happens in lots of wars?

Fighting against terrorism is inhumane? Surely then everyone else fighting against terrorism and tyranny is equally inhumane. Do you think Ukraine fighting the war in Ukraine/Russia is inhumane? What about the uk and USA in the war against Isis? Uk and USA against Nazi Germany in the Second World War?

All war is awful and tragic but it is sometimes necessary. Especially if terrorists invade your country from a neighboring terrorist enclave and murder 1200 people and take hundreds hostage. You cannot simply ignore that.

You say the IDF have counted the bodies of militants they have killed and you say you know most of the deaths are of Hamas militants. You say this is based on reliable evidence.

As you know this evidence, please will you link it? As I said, I can only find the IDF figure for April 7.

Doesn't mean you have to kill everyone in the neighbouring country.

It's Phillips, with a double L.

I suspect she's bullshitting, and the reason she got triaged and seen relatively quickly is because the protocol for breathing difficulties is to rule out (or in) pulmonary embolisms as quickly as possible, given the very high mortality rate for undiagnosed PEs (over 30%).

She's recognisable, and the doctor/nurse/PA may well have said 'are you the MP?' and she said yes, and they chatted a bit.

It was all over twitter earlier and if you search google news a lot of links turn up, but they're things like telegraph, dm etc - which I wouldn't personally call reputable! Not on the times yet which would suggest it's not completely verified. I imagine Ms Phillips is going to be up very late tonight... be interesting to see what the final story is in the morning. I can't say I'm a particular fan of hers but I do very much hope this is somehow out of context (or complete bollocks, though I'm not sure even the telegraph would publish if it was total fabrication). The idea that we potentially have MPs who hold views like this is chilling.

I was talking about how in the war against Isis the uk and USA bombed hospitals and schools without warning unlike the IDF. You made a disparaging (and unsupported) comment about the IDF In response.

I don’t think murder of children is ok. Very few people do (Hamas and other Palestinian terror organizations such as PIJ are obviously exceptions to this).

It’s not murder if children are killed during a war though. It is murder if children are killed in a terrorist attack like on 7 October.

Just out interest what would you class as a reputable source?

No it doesn’t

and indeed that has not happened.

Very likely. But if she really said this it shows that she believes it would be absolutely fine if it were to happen. That's what's scary.

It’s not murder if children are killed during a war though

I believe it is.