To be ashamed that we have caused people of this country to live in fear?

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Watching news. People, ordinary people apart from the colour of their skin, are being threatened, their business ruined, and are petrified to step outside.
Because a few ignorant, selfish, thuggish women and men, who don't have the wit to understand that social media spouts false information.
They don't want to understand what is happening, their herd mentality kicks in and off they go. They even take their kids. A new summer holiday past-time
What a disgusting country this has become

Please read my last but one post. Explained it there

What “sickening crimes” as you put it, has been prince Philip been accused of?

Do you have any reliable sources for that?

My bad, I meant Prince Andrew 🤴

Very good point.

@Snead808

Relatives lived in Southall but left in the early 70s as they felt intimidated and pushed off the pavements by newcomers

Probably exaggerated but they felt unwelcome and the whole area changed very quickly

Pushed off pavements?

Immigrants were most unwelcomed in southhall. Family struggled to find a place to live with posters with writing below being common practice.

Room to let
No blacks
No dogs
No Irish

Pushed off pavements, my backside.

The people already living in Southall also felt unwelcome in the end.

All their neighbours had moved out

Can you not understand that

Of course because the predominately Sikh community, Immigrants from the Indian continent , and Irish community made their life's so awful.
They were invited here to do the jobs noone wanted.
They were hurled with abuse had bricks thrown through their windows.

Bit more unwelcoming than a neighbour moving away?

Also Hang on is that bit like what is happening now???

https://www.aroundealing.com/history/southall-riots-1979/

Read and educate yourself

I am educated thank you

Can you not see their perspective as well

They had left by then

Well if they had left by then how were they impacted by arrival of Asians and Irish?
If they had left by then who was pushing them off the pavements??

I'm sure you got the jist of what I am saying.

They weren't young.

For the purposes of historical accuracy, no one ever referred to people from the subcontinent as ‘black’ in the70s/80s. There would be nasty names, but ‘black’ referred to people of African heritage only. The first time I heard of people from the subcontinent being referred to as ‘black’ was hearing about the ‘Southall Black Sisters’ and thinking it was odd that people from ‘Little India’ as it was known, referred to themselves as ‘black’. I assumed at the time it was to give themselves more kudos and cool factor and to benefit from the civil rights movement.

The perspective that people who had been invited to this country to help the economy were a threat.
The violence was towards the immigrants by the National Front.
What was their perspective ?

You yourself said they probably exaggerated their claims.

You see the racism was towards the arrivals. It is well documented.

What is the 'jist'
They were racist??

I think they felt in a minority and had lived there since the 50s. Perhaps they felt no longer welcome

Or come to think of it they had probably lived there since the 30s. They are not my direct relatives but I remember them talking about it.

I think it is unfair to say they were racist. Can you blame them if they did want to move away

Out of interest, I know that people from the Caribbean were invited to help with nursing and transport, but I thought people from India and Pakistan came to live in the UK because they had British passports. What industries were they sought to work in? Was it Heathrow? Or was it less visible industries than transport and nursing?

Wasn't it the rubber company in Southall?

As an Irish person if my neighbours moved away when I moved in I know it would be me who would feel unwelcomed.

I'm not part of the "we" either.

Is this an example of 'fish don't see the water' racism?

Manufacturing.

Although heathrow was the main employer.

But if the India sub continent arrivals already had British passports, what does it matter.
They were British.

Agree.

The worst I saw was a lad about 10/11? Ish who was interviewed at a riot and said it was the best day ever.

Poor kid - doesn't stand a chance.