Anyone seen what's happening in Birmingham now

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People out slashing sky news tyres, surrounded the reporting female journalist, a man was battered outside a pub by a mob
wtf is going on !

The vast .majority doesn't mean all though. The vast majority of the population are white. To say all of the current problems are down to native British people as a demographic is wrong and causes more issues. This reaction is being stirred by the media and politician's treatment of different groups. You can have a diverse population without treating them equally, one of the main British Values spoken about in anti terrorism training is the rule of law, which should apply to everyone equally. Over the last few weeks we have had it demonstrated to us that different demographics are being treated differently by both the police and higher authorities, people won't stand for it.

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I remember this horrific attack clearly, it was breaking news for days!
A child on his way to school. Absolutely tragic. However, Daniel Anjorin was not murdered by a 'white man', he was a Spanish- Brazilian immigrant.

City folk live happily alongside each other? Lol. Maybe in some areas in some cities. And if you don’t scratch the surface.

And it’s quite obvious that you have no experience of working with social services if you think they don’t ‘adapt rules’ for different communities. I have lots of experience of working with them (unfortunately), and you would not believe some of the things I have seen and heard. If people knew how much money was thrown at some of these families, they’d be rioting about that. I sat in a meeting once where a social worker agreed to pay for day care for a dog. But I digress - lol.

I didn't bring it up so why are you directing this at me? I merely said, he wasn't white. The original poster said nothing was made of it because he was white. He's not.

It's getting beyond a joke now. Time for the army to be called in.

These are people who are kicking off because their lives are shit (living in poverty mostly) and rather than take any responsibility for it themselves they blame anything and anyone else. I’ve taught these people for years and years in various schools in various places. They get the same opportunities as everyone else and choose to squander them, dick around and do nothing then expect someone else to pick up the pieces

It doesn't count as racism if it's against a white person.. for some reason, white people are unaffected by judgement and discrimination 🙄 especially by the authorities it would seem.

I grew up in inner city Nottingham and spent years living in Manchester so I stick by my comment that people in cities live happily alongside each other. I now live in a less multicultural area and people seem more afraid of multiculturalism as they're not used to it and absorb the fear mongering in newspapers, online and from people like Farage.
I've also spent most of my life working with the long term unemployed and offenders so have lots of experience with social services. I just don't buy any of this 2 tier talk. Everything is looked at individually and there are rules. Obviously if you've got other examples I'm not disputing them, but people also see things easier that back up their views. It's human nature.

That’s some generalisation. Not all the rioters kicking off live in poverty/shit lifes. Some are, some aren’t. People want to put them all in one box, together with all those who are concerned about immigration, labelling them as in poverty, stupid, racist. There are many many people, not rioting, who are concerned about immigration, who work, earn decent money, live good lives, who are intelligent. But it suits others to throw insults at them, because it fits their narrative.

I've grew up in very multicultural area and people very definitely did not live happily alongside each other. Different groups inhabited different areas and there was a lot of simmering tension, regular violence between 'gangs', and racist attacks from both sides. That was not a wealthy area. I now live in a very wealthy area, just 10 miles or so away. There is still a lot of 'multiculturalism', although I hesitate to use that term as it is very different to where I'm from. It's probably better to say 'multiethnicity' instead as there aren't many signs of different cultures, outwardly at least. People here get along very well, everyone seems invested in the area. There aren't separate areas of town for different groups, everyone's all mixed together.

I don't think people are lying when they say multiculturalism has worked wonderfully for them and caused no issues, and I don't think people are lying when they say it's been a disaster and is significantly damaging their quality of life. I think both are true and I think both sides need to listen to the other so we can work out why it's working well when it is, and how to replicate that in areas where it isn't. Being anti-multiculturalism is most certainly not always because people are not used to it, nor because they are just simple-minded fools led astray reading the Daily Mail. Just because it's been great for you, doesn't mean it's been great for everyone else.

100% This!

I am admittedly generalising as is the norm on MN but there is no way that those people burning down libraries, cars, hotels, harming others smashing up other peoples property etc, are intelligent, working, with decent lives and good money. And they’re the ones I was talking about

Not strictly true, some of the members of the crowd in London who spoke on camera were decidedly middle class.in presentation such as the way they dress/speak. There's a variety of people involved in the unrest, racial socioeconomic background, age etc. I don't condone the violence bur dismissing it as completely mindless makes us overlook the discontent and desperation behind these actions..

I believe multiculturalism can only thrive when people fully immerse themselves in the culture of their new homeland.

My grandparents immigrated from a Commonwealth country in the 1950s, making me a second-generation immigrant. Despite not being white, I identify strongly as British, or perhaps English. I speak the same way and engage in the same activities as my white friends. I even married a white woman.

However, I do agree with many of your points about the impact of the area on multicultural integration.

Initially, we lived in a diverse neighborhood with a mix of Whites, Blacks, Indians, and Pakistanis. I noticed that Indians and Blacks integrated well, while Pakistanis tended to keep to themselves, leading to some tension between the Indian and Pakistani communities.

When my parents moved to a nicer area, the demographic was still diverse but predominantly white, and everyone got along much better.

But thats the thing. Not all the rioters are doing the burning and smashing up property. The intelligent ones are the ones just watching on on the side lines, and goading the intellectually challenged ones to do the hands on stuff.

@Sdpbody When a white man slashed a 14-year-old Black boy with a sword a few months ago in London, where were the riots and public outcry then?

A child was killed—did it not matter because he was Black?

Exactly
Thankfully the worst of that poster's messages seem to have been deleted

Wonderfully put

Why do you keep spouting untruths? I've posted up thread, so what you're saying is lies!

Multiple people were attacked, also police officers. Again, not a 'white man'. There was public outrage, multiple vigils were held and football matches held 1 minutes silences in Daniels name.
The police confirmed the attack was not racially motivated!

But is that multiculturalism, if a person fully immerses themselves in the culture of their new homeland? Or is that just multiethnicity - people from all over the world who are fully invested in a society, and in its culture, history, values etc, whether their ancestors have been there forever or not? I don't think many people object to that all, I think it's the encouragement of different peoples to segregate themselves and maintain their original culture that is probably causing the division. Though of course some people would say any downsides are worth it. Earlier in the thread, people are talking about how great the community leaders have been, but should a community be so separate from the whole that it requires its own leaders? I think we very much need to have some serious conversations, I think they're long overdue.

You do realise him being Spanish and Brazilian doesn't stop him from being White??

Are hispanic people white?

Yes, some are! Just as you have Black hispanic/Afro Latina people

They would identify/be people of colour.
Hispanics typically have mixed-race ancestry.

They ALL really do not identify in that way