Anyone seen what's happening in Birmingham now

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People out slashing sky news tyres, surrounded the reporting female journalist, a man was battered outside a pub by a mob
wtf is going on !

Police are not there to "punish" ffs. They arrest when they believe a crime has been committed. Then lawyers present their evidence. Then a magistrate panel/jury reaches a view on which evidence they believe.

THEN PUNISHMENT is determined by the judge or magistrate panel.

White British are ruining their own country! They need no help

More protests allegedly happening tomorrow I suggest anyone in cities check the lists circulating and avoid at all costs don't become a statistic

Do you realise how offensive, how utterly tone deaf, this comment is?

The fact is that by calling one group 'thugs' and other groups 'communities', they are fanning the flames further. It can't be one rule for some people and another rule for others. Either all of them are thugs or none of them are.

I can’t see any lists, not even on Twitter but hopefully nothing local.

Mumsnet specifically posted a message saying don't generalise about groups of people. Is this not a generalisation? Or is it OK when it's about UK natives?

This two tier policing line being pumped out is also so insulting to the police who work so hard

I'd agree with this except that it's not the hardworking police on the front line who are driving what can be done and what can't; they're just the cannon fodder who are left to pick up the sad pieces

I mentioned this on the since deleted thread, but anyone who's sat on a police board will know that these decisions are made way above the front line, and that those making them prioritise community sensitivities in a way that some - rightly or wrongly - consider disproportionate

Spoke too soon, found the list and sadly my city is on it.

Mine too unfortunately

I don't know where everyone else is getting the "lists" from, but in case it's twitter, may I offer something a little less toxic: hopenothate.org.uk/2024/08/02/a-weekend-of-unrest-dozens-of-protests-planned-in-the-wake-of-southport/

Currently working a mile up the road from last night's disturbances. Everything absolutely normal.

It’s not just the police either. Have you ever tried to make a safeguarding referral involving a family with influence in the ‘community’? No social worker will touch it with a bargepole.

Not generalising! The videos of people rioting and speaking out are White British men. Complaining about lack of resources while burning down libraries and looting local business

I do find it interesting hearing about two tier policing. Black and Brown people have been talking about two tier policing and have been told that it's nonsense.

I've not made a referral myself, but have been involved with some in a community capacity and sadly you're quite right - though again I've found it's rarely those in the front line who are driving these choices

Yes but the violent mobs are poor people. There are no middle class or rich people doing it. There are some of those instigating from a distance, but they aren't the manipulated mob.

If you're a reasonably happy reasonably well-off person, you don't smash things up, loot things or hit police dogs with bricks.

How do you know the circumstances of those yobs? They are all in balaclavas!

It is a generalisation to say that white people in general are ruining anything. You're being racist whether you know it or not. Just because native British people happen to be white doesn't mean they can't be subject to prejudice.
One black man stabs some children, we don't say all black people stab babies do we? Ridiculous.

That isn't what I meant, and I stand by it isn't about poverty the nice "middle classes" are sitting behind their keyboards egging them on.

No, you need to learn the definition of racism and prejudice. Plus where did I say all. The demographic out on the street are White and British complaining about people taking resources while they loots and destroy their resources. The truth obviously hurts!

I'm finding the term "native British" to mean only white people quite uncomfortable. Lots of British people have different skin colours. The vast majority of problems this week are caused by white people, that's just a fact. I don't think it's a generalisation if that's clearly what's happening. People aren't protesting, they're turning up and rioting.

The Leeds riots were policed with many arrests happening following the event as is happening now. The police were forced to retreat as they have been on several occasions this week to protect themselves. To say social service adapted rules for those Romanian children is insulting to social services who will be following processes the same as they do for everyone else. Are you referring to the Manchester riots this week? There weren't huge amounts of trouble as there hasn't been in most major cities as city folk tend to live quite happily alongside each other no matter what race or religion. There would have been many more counter protesters than the thugs to help keep the peace. The Manchester airport incident is ongoing and being investigated. Two tier policing has been implanted into your brain along with a lot of misinformation. Misinformation caused all this in the first place.

The post I first quoted you in you said white people are ruining the country. I actually don't care because it's obviously a lie, but it's shocking that even this site has double standards about who can and can't be generalised.

I'm uncertain about the concept of a "two-tier" justice system, but there is a different approach when a white child is killed compared to a child of colour.

For example, a few months ago, a white man killed a 14-year-old child with a sword in Hainault, northeast London. You probably didn't hear about it, and there were no protests or riots. Why? Because the victim was black.

These rioters are behaving like racist terrorists.