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Anyone seen what's happening in Birmingham now

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namechangedforthisposttt · 05/08/2024 21:59

People out slashing sky news tyres, surrounded the reporting female journalist, a man was battered outside a pub by a mob
wtf is going on !

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Devonbabs · 06/08/2024 00:17

Buddysbunda · 06/08/2024 00:14

Have British people not been rioting for days now? Seems like rioting is the 'British way of life'.

Actually it’s only a British thing when we are pushed to the edge - it’s a last resort

Rainbowsponge · 06/08/2024 00:18

matildamiracle · 05/08/2024 22:58

We've have days of white thugs shouting 'P*' out, checking cars if people are white and English and Asians being dragged out of cars and a lone black man being beaten up by a horde of white blokes. Asylum hotels attempted to burn to the ground, blocking up exits.

Guess what? Non-white people feel ( and are) under attack, what the fuck do people think they will do? Sit in their homes?

WHat the fuck do people expect??

Its what the people pulling the strings of all this, the ones far from the riots want, a race war.

They wont get it, because most people , white, brown, black, don't want to kill each other, regardless of how they vote or their politics.

I do understand your point and think if you play silly games you win silly prizes. However the man in the pub seemed to have nothing to do with this and got his head kicked in.

All day I’ve been arguing with a small core of hard left posters who insisted (verbatim) this is a ‘white English man entitlement and aggression problem’, and that nobody else would react in violent disorder no matter how aggrieved they felt. This footage proves them very wrong, and they will now bend themselves into pretzels to justify something they called unjustifiable 5 minutes ago.

The hard left are utter hypocrites and their denialism and insincerity has a role to play in this sorry mess.

AdviceNeeded2024 · 06/08/2024 00:18

Crikeyalmighty · 06/08/2024 00:14

@Devonbabs thing is you keep going on about 2 tier policing- why if you are getting on with life normally would this affect you - I don't normally have police involvement in life - why are these people all so 'up' on 2 tier policing- is it because they are simply twats and hence havevpolice involvement in their family on a regular basis ! I rather suspect it is- that Sunderland woman today Leanne- 6th offence!!

I think what she is getting at is the way it is being reported it appears the police treat one group different from another, all of which is only going to keep fuelling all this violence and riots, not that she personally is being treated like this by the police.

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RogueFemale · 06/08/2024 00:18

Radarkeigh · 06/08/2024 00:17

He's a powerless MP most other MPs despise. He cant do anything here.

He's a lazy grifter, also.

rayrayd · 06/08/2024 00:18

@Radarkeigh I'll revisit this in a year and see how it's aged 🤣

StoneofDestiny · 06/08/2024 00:20

Why are people so frightened of saying what’s happening? Why are they frightened to say the British way of life is threatened by multiculturalism?

What exactly is 'the British way of life'. ?
Is that what the feral mobs waving EDL flags and with Anarchy symbols scrawled over the Union Flag are defending? If so stuff that - they are attacking people's businesses, homes and places of worship. They are terrorising innocent people. They are attacking our police and fire services. They are shouting nazi slogans and 'England for the English' tripe. They are utter hooligans, dregs of society with nothing to say that decent people need to hear. They can't even work out the difference between England and Britain. Mince thick (and I bet a great deal of them are second or third generation immigrants from migrant parents/grandparents - but being white migrants probably doesn't count eh?

ThisGreyPanda · 06/08/2024 00:20

Can people access social media? I cannot get Instagram, Facebook or Twitter right now through search engines, I just get denied.

Teentaxidriver · 06/08/2024 00:20

rayrayd · 06/08/2024 00:15

this is a perfect time for Farage to emerge. I don't even like the man, but the woefully
naive posts on here prove there's an important space in politics for him.
The idea that you can't be a bigot or a criminal or a chancer unless you're white and working class is just bullshit

This is crucial. To British liberals admitting immigrants (illegal and legal) is a moral choice, and one which they have tried to depoliticise so that untrammelled numbers can arrive. To traditional conservatives, it is (or should be if it weren’t for the EHRC, Good Friday framework etc) less conflated with self-righteousness/ virtue.

Rainbowsponge · 06/08/2024 00:21

AdviceNeeded2024 · 06/08/2024 00:18

I think what she is getting at is the way it is being reported it appears the police treat one group different from another, all of which is only going to keep fuelling all this violence and riots, not that she personally is being treated like this by the police.

The footage would back this up. Plymouth is rightly full of police in full riot gear. The mob in Birmingham brewed for hours before storming the pub and beating up a random man as well as trashing the pub and vandalising cars. Where the hell were the police?

Buddysbunda · 06/08/2024 00:22

Devonbabs · 06/08/2024 00:17

Actually it’s only a British thing when we are pushed to the edge - it’s a last resort

I'm sure if you asked the men rioting in Birmingham tonight they would say the very same thing. Either riots are acceptable to you or they aren't, seems like you are saying if you feel pushed to the edge it's fine or is that just if you are 'British'.

peanutbuttertoasty · 06/08/2024 00:22

InDsocialworker · 06/08/2024 00:11

What is the catalyst in these other areas then ? It can’t be housing as a lot of these areas are the ones with surplus social housing as its where residents from London boroughs are often redirected to and advised to move ? Is it linked to employment and resentment over jobs ?

A lot of it is the legacy of the mass importation of cheap labour from e.g. Pakistan. Importing poverty en masse decades ago with low education and no drivers to integrate. The communities have often existed next to native British communities but a lot of the time mixed much like oil and water. Language barriers, polar opposite values, religious segregation, alternative economies and legal systems. This has been in the post a long time….
That was my upbringing anyway. Of course views may differ.

Teentaxidriver · 06/08/2024 00:23

Inlaw · 05/08/2024 23:50

Maybe they need to focus on building prisons

Only houses, pylons and solar farms - read the papers!

pleasehelpwi3 · 06/08/2024 00:25

gottogo23 · 06/08/2024 00:00

40% of UK Muslims would support the introduction of Sharia law. Of course there's 'good Muslims' around as much as there's good and bad in every race and culture. But the immigrants are coming in so thick and fast that they will not/do not need to integrate and will vote in new laws around their belief system and not ours. The estimated population of the UK is now believed to be closer to 100 million rather than the 70 million the government claim. We have already lost control and need to take urgent action.

As ever, context is key:
https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/law/sharia-laws-appeal-to-muslims-is-diminishing-poll-suggests/5059062.article

But your post is so full of inaccuracies that the nuances of the article will be beyond you. Let's say you're right for argument's sake about 'immigrants arriving thick and fast'.....how long will it take them to become British citizens and be able to 'vote in new laws around their belief system and not ours'?

From HMG website: you can apply for citizenship if you've lived in the UK for 5 years and have had one of the following for 12 months: indefinite leave to remain in the UK. 'settled status' (also known as 'indefinite leave to remain under the EU Settlement Scheme')

But hey, why let facts get in the way of racist nonsense. You out rioting tonight, 'talking action' as you call it......did you 'take action' by trying to burn asylum seekers alive in hostels, or by burning books in a library? Is that the action you want?

Law Gazette

Sharia law’s appeal to Muslims is ‘diminishing’, poll suggests

Policy Exchange highlights change in attitude among younger British Muslims in particular.

https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/law/sharia-laws-appeal-to-muslims-is-diminishing-poll-suggests/5059062.article

Isthatascratchonmygrandmother · 06/08/2024 00:25

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BuggedOut · 06/08/2024 00:26

I can not believe some of the comments on here. On pretty much every thread discussing the riots in recent days, not one person has defended the indefensible actions of the rioters. Rightly so. Change of narrative tonight when the rioters are from a different background. In sweep the apologists, the ' angry white men started this, so they're getting their just desserts ', the posters who can't find it within themselves to condemn, but want to argue immigration stats as a smokescreen, the ' move along, nothing to see here' deniers.... Shameful. Violence is violence period.

Devonbabs · 06/08/2024 00:26

Buddysbunda · 06/08/2024 00:22

I'm sure if you asked the men rioting in Birmingham tonight they would say the very same thing. Either riots are acceptable to you or they aren't, seems like you are saying if you feel pushed to the edge it's fine or is that just if you are 'British'.

i didn’t say whether they were acceptable or not, I simply stated when they were likely to happen within British culture

mommatoone · 06/08/2024 00:26

Devonbabs · 06/08/2024 00:22

I mean look at how the Manchester Evening News is reporting what’s happening in Birmingham
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/uk-news/men-balaclavas-create-protective-ring-29683784

this is very clearly not the situation

Well, it did look like this hours ago🤣. Let's hope the M.E.N (and the mainstream media) provide a full update about what happened after this photo was taken. I hope Kier Starmer has something to say about it too.

treedwell · 06/08/2024 00:27

ThisGreyPanda · 06/08/2024 00:20

Can people access social media? I cannot get Instagram, Facebook or Twitter right now through search engines, I just get denied.

you wont have been denied, this will be user error.

FrothyCothy · 06/08/2024 00:27

Couple of things that always get me when Sharia Law is mentioned:

  1. there are several different factions of Islam in the UK and they don’t seem to agree on the application of Sharia Law themselves, so quite how they’ll successfully implement it in a Muslim minority country seems a little unclear
  2. the comment section of any local news article on Facebook would suggest there’s quite the appetite for a bit of corporal (and even capital) punishment among white British people. Maybe they’d quite like a bit of Sharia Law after all…?
Devonbabs · 06/08/2024 00:29

mommatoone · 06/08/2024 00:26

Well, it did look like this hours ago🤣. Let's hope the M.E.N (and the mainstream media) provide a full update about what happened after this photo was taken. I hope Kier Starmer has something to say about it too.

It was published about 1 hour ago!

mommatoone · 06/08/2024 00:31

Devonbabs · 06/08/2024 00:29

It was published about 1 hour ago!

Well let's hope come tomorrow they will report exactly what happened after this photo was taken !!! Won't hold my breath tho

Teentaxidriver · 06/08/2024 00:31

RogueFemale · 05/08/2024 23:59

That Islam is not the big bad wolf. And it's not going to take over the UK by 2050 as you seem to fear.

Parts of Islam are deeply problematic, not least the views expressed by the Quran about Jews, Christian, gays etc etc.

AconsonantpleaseCarol · 06/08/2024 00:32

pleasehelpwi3 · 06/08/2024 00:25

As ever, context is key:
https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/law/sharia-laws-appeal-to-muslims-is-diminishing-poll-suggests/5059062.article

But your post is so full of inaccuracies that the nuances of the article will be beyond you. Let's say you're right for argument's sake about 'immigrants arriving thick and fast'.....how long will it take them to become British citizens and be able to 'vote in new laws around their belief system and not ours'?

From HMG website: you can apply for citizenship if you've lived in the UK for 5 years and have had one of the following for 12 months: indefinite leave to remain in the UK. 'settled status' (also known as 'indefinite leave to remain under the EU Settlement Scheme')

But hey, why let facts get in the way of racist nonsense. You out rioting tonight, 'talking action' as you call it......did you 'take action' by trying to burn asylum seekers alive in hostels, or by burning books in a library? Is that the action you want?

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Rioting aside - People can see its a real possibility down the line - in five years, ten years or twenty years time. Its a bit late to start worrying about it when its about to happen or after its happened surely? The time to stop it happening is now surely?