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Why are there suddenly loads of protests?

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Newsenmum · 03/08/2024 20:36

All these awful EDL protests- why are they suddenly happening? Whats kicking them all off? One in Bristol today is scary.

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Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 04/08/2024 10:01

Oneblindmouse · 04/08/2024 08:37

You are the second poster to say the murders were in Stockport. It was in SOUTHPORT.

I'm so sorry, I had already seen the first correction and knew it was Southport but somehow still managed to type Stockport. Alzheimer's Lite, I'm afraid. Also, I should have said "alleged" murderer. My apologies.

DoubleCoatedDogs · 04/08/2024 10:01

VJBR · 04/08/2024 09:27

It’s really scary. Starmer needs to come back from his holiday and do something to reassure people.

Obviously it benefits someone if Starmer is seen as ineffectual, as your post implies, but I highly doubt he's just sat on a beach reading. He was head of the CPS during previous rioting. He knows what he's doing.

VJBR · 04/08/2024 10:05

Notreat · 04/08/2024 09:40

Don't talk nonsense He isn't on holiday! He has addressed the nation, there was a press conference yesterday!
He and the Government are acting and commenting.

Calm down. I don’t write the news. Only repeating what I read on LBC news.

midgetastic · 04/08/2024 10:09

So prime minister is never entitled to a holiday ?

Even though he is clearly working ?

Perfectlystill · 04/08/2024 10:14

You always get riots when the weather's good

ShouldhavebeencalledAppollo · 04/08/2024 10:16

I do believe racists are in the minority. But I am worried it’s going to get worse.

I have family in harehills and lived there when I was young. There’s loads of tension. Some are just racist, but some are more moderate and have valid concerns. The influx of Roma to the area was already causing tension and not just between the Roma and white British people, but between lots of groups.

And people can take the piss out of ‘two tier policing’ but that’s how some people genuinely feel, because that’s their experience. That’s the life they live.

and because they feel like no one cares, no one gives shit or listens without labelling them as racist they are going to start drifting to the groups that are. Even if they don’t fully agree with these groups points of view.

I also think that there will be more and more British born people who are not white starting to join these things. And even people who are not white and not British born joining. The racist groups will compromise for a bit to get more support. There’s a video at the moment of a woman who isn’t British (you can tell by her accent) and isn’t white telling people ‘if you don’t like the country fuck off out of it’.

I think it’s extremely complex and not black and white. And I worry these thugs who have caused all this damage will get a bit more savvy. Reduce the violence to get more support and I think that would work.

Efacsen · 04/08/2024 10:27

VJBR · 04/08/2024 10:05

Calm down. I don’t write the news. Only repeating what I read on LBC news.

Do you have a link to that please because I can't find it and would like to contact them to ask them to correct the mis-information?

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DuncinToffee · 04/08/2024 10:33

VJBR · 04/08/2024 09:27

It’s really scary. Starmer needs to come back from his holiday and do something to reassure people.

Keir Starmer is working from Chequers.

Yesterday afternoon the PM convened a virtual meeting about ongoing public disorder with the deputy PM, home secretary, justice secretary and policing minister. He is continuing to work amid unrest and far-tight protests.

source The Times

HauntedbyMagpies · 04/08/2024 10:40

The mouth breathers are having a whale of a time! They're gathered in groups (all dressed pretty much the same - sweatpants, Nike trainers, hoodies etc in black, blue or grey & white t-shirt. It's the uniform, don't you know?!) and enjoying trashing the place up, looting etc.
When the first one took place, somebody filmed a large group of them all having a BREAKDANCING competition and drinking cans of beer! This was after they'd smashed the window of and looted, a vape shop 😳😳😳

There's absolutely nothing** political or patriotic about it.

HauntedbyMagpies · 04/08/2024 10:42

@Jaichangecentfoisdenom It was SOUTHPORT! Not Stockport!!

anniegun · 04/08/2024 10:43

Violent racist thugs looking for an excuse to attack people of colour

Persiancouscous · 04/08/2024 10:49

DancelikeFredAstaire · 04/08/2024 08:58

Have 3 BAME girls got stabbed by a white guy the streets would also be burning and rightly so.

Really??? I must have missed the riots for this then.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-68968817

Edited

How is a Brazilian/ Spanish guy murdering a black teen the same? Had he been white British and walked into a club aimed at little black girls... I would totally understand your point.

There wasn't riots for Kriss Donald. It's the constant two tier system with the government that is causing the issues. Two tier policing, BLM riots / protests vs today. Everyone kneeling, statues being ripped down, disorder but the police didn't get involved and kneeled. Point out George Floyd was nothing to do with us!

The whole reason there is so much anger is because the reactions of the media/ government/ police is not the same.

Persiancouscous · 04/08/2024 10:55

midgetastic · 04/08/2024 10:09

So prime minister is never entitled to a holiday ?

Even though he is clearly working ?

😂 Most workplaces don't let you take a holiday when you start a new job....less than a month (may I add) and your workplace is doing up in flames, so to speak.

VerySadCase · 04/08/2024 10:56

Persiancouscous · 04/08/2024 10:55

😂 Most workplaces don't let you take a holiday when you start a new job....less than a month (may I add) and your workplace is doing up in flames, so to speak.

He isn't on holiday anyway.

Midnightalready · 04/08/2024 10:57

ShouldhavebeencalledAppollo · 04/08/2024 10:16

I do believe racists are in the minority. But I am worried it’s going to get worse.

I have family in harehills and lived there when I was young. There’s loads of tension. Some are just racist, but some are more moderate and have valid concerns. The influx of Roma to the area was already causing tension and not just between the Roma and white British people, but between lots of groups.

And people can take the piss out of ‘two tier policing’ but that’s how some people genuinely feel, because that’s their experience. That’s the life they live.

and because they feel like no one cares, no one gives shit or listens without labelling them as racist they are going to start drifting to the groups that are. Even if they don’t fully agree with these groups points of view.

I also think that there will be more and more British born people who are not white starting to join these things. And even people who are not white and not British born joining. The racist groups will compromise for a bit to get more support. There’s a video at the moment of a woman who isn’t British (you can tell by her accent) and isn’t white telling people ‘if you don’t like the country fuck off out of it’.

I think it’s extremely complex and not black and white. And I worry these thugs who have caused all this damage will get a bit more savvy. Reduce the violence to get more support and I think that would work.

Totally agree. I think people versed in the establishment narrative of diversity and multiculturalism are being completely naive if they think that this will blow over. There is mounting evidence across Europe that the massive influx of immigrants from outside Europe is having significant social consequences. Information from the UK is very hard to collate, because the police forces don't readily collect data on the ethnicity of perpetrators of crime, but data from Sweden and Germany, for instance, show clearly that migrants are responsible for a hugely disproportionate number of sexual and violent crimes.

If you think we can carry on with net 600k levels of immigration, many from cultures completely different to our own, then you're absolutely deluded. Calling people thick, racist scum is a totally let-them-eat-cake attitude. Many, many people, including people who have been left-leaning all their lives, have had enough of the problems that mass immigration brings. Behind the idiot rioters looting and burning are all the people who disagree with what they're doing, but understand the reasons why they're doing it.

DuncinToffee · 04/08/2024 11:01

Persiancouscous · 04/08/2024 10:49

How is a Brazilian/ Spanish guy murdering a black teen the same? Had he been white British and walked into a club aimed at little black girls... I would totally understand your point.

There wasn't riots for Kriss Donald. It's the constant two tier system with the government that is causing the issues. Two tier policing, BLM riots / protests vs today. Everyone kneeling, statues being ripped down, disorder but the police didn't get involved and kneeled. Point out George Floyd was nothing to do with us!

The whole reason there is so much anger is because the reactions of the media/ government/ police is not the same.

Kneeling police men is why thugs are attacking Mosques and setting fire to CAB offices and libraries?

VJBR · 04/08/2024 11:04

Efacsen · 04/08/2024 10:27

Do you have a link to that please because I can't find it and would like to contact them to ask them to correct the mis-information?

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Edited

www.globalplayer.com/videos/2JsSbRZLKCp/

Efacsen · 04/08/2024 11:08

Thanks

DuncinToffee · 04/08/2024 11:10

‘He will continue to work from wherever.’

mm81736 · 04/08/2024 11:10

Ypu do not have to agree with them, bit if you really do not understand why these people are rioting, then you are part of the problem!

DuncinToffee · 04/08/2024 11:15

mm81736 · 04/08/2024 11:10

Ypu do not have to agree with them, bit if you really do not understand why these people are rioting, then you are part of the problem!

Really, you understand why people are attacking Mosques, Police, shops, libraries, BAME people?

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 04/08/2024 11:20

mm81736 · 04/08/2024 11:10

Ypu do not have to agree with them, bit if you really do not understand why these people are rioting, then you are part of the problem!

Oh I understand exactly why these people are rioting. That's why I think they are despicable.

Midnightalready · 04/08/2024 11:20

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CassieMaddox · 04/08/2024 11:24

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 04/08/2024 09:31

It's laughable that people are trying to claim that the rioters aren't racist/aren't far right.

They were doing Nazi salutes in my city yesterday and chanting far right/racist slogans. We have seen footage across the country of them throwing bricks and bottles at mosques, trying to smash their way into asylum seeker accommodation etc. And spreading dangerous misinformation online in order to whip up support.

Shame on each and every poster on here that is trying to excuse and defend this despicable behaviour. Shame on all who have tried to exploit the tragic murders of three innocent children for your own nefarious purposes.There is no excuse and there is no defence.

You should know that the racists will always be in a minority because most people in this country are better than that. The far right rioters were massively outnumbered in my city yesterday by decent people peacefully standing up to racism. We will not let you win.

Please take your pathetic, hate-filled nonsense and your insidious lies elsewhere. You are not welcome on Mumsnet.

Well said 👏

Midnightalready · 04/08/2024 11:24

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 04/08/2024 11:20

Oh I understand exactly why these people are rioting. That's why I think they are despicable.

Should the Swedes be protesting this?

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8330751/

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